In depth analysis of character drop speeds and Iori safe jump timing
TSS Atma recently put up a new video where he analyzes the nuances of different characters’ drop speed and how that affects Iori’s safe jump timing.
Here is the description of how it works:
“So Athena hits the floor after SDM on frame 40, normal characters on frame 38. Joe hits the floor on frame 33 and the consequence is DM becomes an 8f safejump and SDM a 10f safejump against him(so neither work!)
There is no such thing as Athena/King/Joe having magical faster starting up moves or cancelling their wake up frames, they just happen to hit the floor faster in certain scenarios. In Athena’s crystal bit case the 3rd and 4th frame have a really small hitbox around her head, so it can’t really hit grounded opponents consistently, but can hit airbourne ones.
This is why EX Kyo Rekka string will always lead to a 3f safejump on any character, as his rekka is special in that it forces characters to hit the ground immediately when done on the ground.
Everything in this video is to do with characters hitting the ground at different times after Iori’s super, they do not wake up at different speeds or anything like that. Shen hits the ground on the 36th, as does King. Kula on the 37th. Yuri, Karate and Saiki hit on the 39th frame, and that’s important for Yuri as it means she cannot hold neutral to abuse her bug as Iori’s safejump is 4f.
What’s important is this is not universal and a good example of that would be Chin. Chin lands on the 38th frame like most of the cast after the DM/SDM however against Vice after a normal throw he hits the ground super late compared to other characters, which allows Vice to combo her EX Sleeve on Chin. The numbers stated are not universal! It can change from situation to situation but generally what I have found is there are often repeat characters(King, Joe) and for most of the “standard” cast, they don’t ever seem to have this strange phenomenon happen.”