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King of Fighters XIII => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kane317 on September 03, 2011, 05:40:25 AM
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With a growing trend towards live streams, it's only fitting to have a thread on all the casts from Elive.Pro and any discussion related to the sort. I'll kick it off with a list of casts that I feel will add valuable to the community; per request from Gunsmith, several of us have helped "translate" (if you can even call it that) the technical reference guide for all 31 characters:
(If you find a broken or erroneous link please let me know)
Ash Crimson (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/rv6p86NlFt0q)
Team Japan
Kyo Kusanagi (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/aCMBITk1Rcec)
Benimaru Nikaido (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/6GDsCBVXhuvc)
Goro Daimon (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/ESbWYjS26qNM)
Team Elisabeth
Elisabeth Branctorche (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/TpoNJ2ecsVxe)
Shen Woo (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/haMNWocwXLYP)
Duo Lon (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/o6VV4FSNz3Ai)
Fatal Fury Team
Terry Bogard (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/C1DGxhs70gdc)
Andy Bogard (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/xhjiwmdwZrMl)
Joe Higashi (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/zjUkund8SyE0)
Kim Team
Kim Kaphwan (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/Rh50BSMvnJyl)
Raiden (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/P3Tf99Bx8WTI)
Hwa Jai (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/Rh50BSMvnJyl)
Women Fighters Team
King (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/TE3o76mc32H6)
Mai Shiranui (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/Reo1tAtB1zkW)
Yuri Sakazaki (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/JAWrQKHFp3Bo)
Art of Fighting Team
Ryo Sakazaki (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/Q9SYnJAiuCEP)
Robert Garcia (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/WCZVsrh36KxD)
Takuma Sakazaki (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/wICbwbsqq7Zg)
Yagami Team
Iori Yagami (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/NhqJpA1FUaYg)
Mature (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/3Admp7TIPcqU)
Vice (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/XjW5yiq53bKj)
Ikari Warriors Team
Ralf Jones (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/9IlF6rheTwWk)
Clark Still (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/BAPTtVXcXdgZ)
Leona Heidern (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/jk3jGiJl2jJi)
Psycho Soldier Team
Athena Asamiya (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/M2roGOoJnboQ)
Sie Kensou (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/B2Qs6WVSqUSU)
Chin Gentsai (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/dHLnS5eGTSnf)
K' Team
K' (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/9qXPo6gHWvv8)
Maxima (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/nisDzAPYmLLe)
Kula Diamond (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/ewS37DGd09oG)
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The ON show: (If you find a broken or erroneous link please let me know)
The ON Show#3 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/Jw8KMTixKbVz)
The ON Show#4 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/s6OGihNHkIcG)
The ON Show#5 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/3liyGM1S4w18)
The ON Show#6 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/luhrd79tsNJ3)
The ON Show#6 REVENGE (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/JVcKr4qwMfUF)
The ON Show#7 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/cBdvLK2E5mGw)
The ON Show#9 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/XivzcEBDDYuW)
The ON Show#10 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/VNj2NROZTpzI)
The ON Show#11 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/otYmUbWgTCfx)
The ON Show#12 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/gPUPtHDPDfwK)
The ON Show#14 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/p5HZOV5tVUdb)
The ON Show#15 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/hAaR4JWzfxGQ)
The ON Show#16 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/pO6a0JSC292c)
The ON Show#17 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/kkaEMD5UrjZr)
The ON Show#18 (WARNING NSFW) (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/UfFjfHf7wMfa)
The ON Show#19 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/jTmXVXGRSaRj)
The ON Show #20 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/ovfcTgxg4bol)
The ON Show #21 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/RHWbL9D5PSoG)
The ON Show #22 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/Yg1DcWKlr94W)
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List of eLive casters:
English
Nocturnal (http://www.elive.pro/en/user/Nocturnal)
Kane317 (http://www.elive.pro/en/user/Kane317)
Giby (http://www.elive.pro/en/user/Giby)
Metaphysics (http://www.elive.pro/en/user/Metaphysics)
4leaf (http://www.elive.pro/en/user/4leaf)
Gunsmith (http://www.elive.pro/en/user/Gunsmith)
French
Frionel (http://www.elive.pro/en/user/Frionel)
Aerendir (http://www.elive.pro/en/user/Aerendir)
TimmytheTurtle (http://www.elive.pro/en/user/timmytheturtle)
Japanese
Dune (http://www.elive.pro/en/user/dune_kof)
Kento (http://www.elive.pro/en/user/kento)
Charles Wain (http://www.elive.pro/en/user/charles_wain)
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There's also various match analyses (not commentary) on random matches on our accounts on elive.pro if anyone wanted to see them you can be my guest but don't expect some crazy quality as we're still practicing ;)
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There's also various match analyses (not commentary) on random matches on our accounts on elive.pro if anyone wanted to see them you can be my guest but don't expect some crazy quality as we're still practicing ;)
I'm curious, what do you discern as the difference between commentary and analysis?
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There's also various match analyses (not commentary) on random matches on our accounts on elive.pro if anyone wanted to see them you can be my guest but don't expect some crazy quality as we're still practicing ;)
I'm curious, what do you discern as the difference between commentary and analysis?
please be very critical!! as it will make Kane 317 cringe, and I find extreme enjoyment in that lol, jk. Never admit to sucking, that's what the viewers are for. but really criticism and suggestions are more than welcome
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There's also various match analyses (not commentary) on random matches on our accounts on elive.pro if anyone wanted to see them you can be my guest but don't expect some crazy quality as we're still practicing ;)
I'm curious, what do you discern as the difference between commentary and analysis?
Great question. IMHO, a (running) commentary is usually a play-by-play move reiteration for the viewers with insight added to said moves, to inform the viewer what's going on plus some entertaining comments (colored commentator) on the side. One person is the hype guy who bring energy while the other person supplements the hype guy with technical explanations to back it up.
A match analyses is a little more in-depth without doing the blow-by-blow. Since it's not live, hopefully, it'll catch details that is often missed in live commentaries. Often times using the elive.pro rewind feature and also draw arrows and so forth to help analyze the matches. Some analyses are entertaining but it's not necessarily designed that way.
If you're familiar with the Starcraft2 world, think of day9.tv which is the direction I'm aiming for.
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*cries
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Frionel goes over the tentative console version changes here (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/jBk4l80bKtec).
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I don't know if it's just me or my internet connections but on the K Dash one, I can't hear Yuhang talking at all
EDIT: It's just in the beginning
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Metaphysics and myself go over some more matches:
Match Analysis 6 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/Hq97YA1QGEN3).
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Metaphysics and myself go over some more matches:
Match Analysis 6 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/Hq97YA1QGEN3).
This was an interesting watch/listen. It gave me some appreciated insight into the game and also contained some fun characters.
Thanks.
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Interview with Haunts (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/FhrK8lbvDd9C)
Not sure if this goes in here since this is about XIII. We touch a bit on his XIII activities, but you guys can move if to wherever it belongs if this isn't the place.
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Frionel goes over the tentative console version changes here (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/jBk4l80bKtec).
Frankly Frionel's podcast is ridiculously good. He and his boys really hit the training mode pretty hard. Love the commentary as well as the technicals. I must have listened to all 3 hrs of it like 5 times. Wish he would do more casts in English...
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Alright everyone, we got a long one here but it's a good one. Kane 317, The Professor, myself, and last but not least " The Godfather" himself Dune joins us in an interview getting his thoughts about the recent video by SNK Playmore detailing changes on several characters from XIII console version http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/RuXc8O97sIhc (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/RuXc8O97sIhc)
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Dune speaks english?
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Kane, I think this should be added to the first post:
Hopefully this list continues to grow as time goes on.
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Done -Kane317
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Dune speaks english?
He understands English, and can speak it fairly well.
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Thanks very much for that Dune (zu-neh) interview, was really cool hearing his impressions and great job on the questions. Also sounds like you guys locked him in for the rest of the updates, awesome.
Cannot wait for the next one :)
Would it be possible to start off the next one by running him through the Guard Cancel interview questions?
Think that would be a cool touch.
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I think this is a very thought provoking read (http://iplaywinner.com/news/2011/10/17/what-is-it-that-makes-for-enjoyable-commentary.html), funny he mentions day[9] as well.
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I think this is a very thought provoking read (http://iplaywinner.com/news/2011/10/17/what-is-it-that-makes-for-enjoyable-commentary.html), funny he mentions day[9] as well.
Yeah, it's a nice read, though I think a bit overly harsh. Yeah, I think FG commentary needs to be more articulate, but the reason a lot of people tend to enjoy some streams is because of a good hype man. MvC2 probably doesn't reach the heights it gets without guys like Yipes. 3S doesn't get as much ground without the help of Rockefeller and his commentary and podcasts. But at the same time, as a community that's now starting to grow, we NEED a guy along with the hype to articulate what's going on the screen at the moment, and it's hard.
I mean, for Capcom games at the moment, that seems to be Seth Killian just because there's no doubt about what he knows. He knows what's happening on the screen at all times because he knows the game, seeing it from the beginning. With some guys like an Ultradavid, he DOES have gaps in his knowledge, and it's expected. For example, in SSF4:AE alone, there's 39 characters. That's 780 Matchups you potentially have to learn, and that's hard. Then there's the nuances of each specific character for any game you have to learn. Hell, look at the Cross Counter Asia guys, VERY knowledgeable yet, when they were running over the AE12 Patch Changes at got to Gouken, they even admitted that they did not know the character that well.
In order to really be a good, info and play by play commentator, you need to know the ins and outs of your game, if not only for yourself but to viewers who are stopping by for the first time. A mark of a really good commentator is turning either organized chaos or something as seeming mundane as a fireball war and telling you exactly why and how it's happening.
Personally, I actually want to be a commentator, I figure if I can't get up to the level of play that a game deserves, I can at least do my best to learn everything about the game and inform the masses so they can achieve where others, like myself, would fail. I'm also a very outspoken guy as I'm sure you've seen, so I do enjoy talking about the craft of FGs when I get the chance, and it's not often.
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http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/N9hXzB36D7HI (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/N9hXzB36D7HI)
Another Interview with Dune going over the new change list and what it means for us
if you guys get a chance to watch it please rate and vote for our videos as it would help the videos and Dream Cancel get more exposure, thanks gents!
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Thanks for the cast guys (voted).
Interesting that Dune surmises Claw Iori is quite likely to end up with only a 1-2 frame disadvantage after ;dn ;db ;bk ;k guarded by that it is not punishable by a normal. Think it's fine for that chr to end up with a safe move, but hoping there will be a slight disadvantage so that it's not spammed crazily.
He feels that Joe is probably too strong now by virtue of his slide cancelling...to which I can kinda agree (but don't overly mind being a Joe player!). I guess a quip I have about that is his gameplay starts to resemble Hwa's.
Man they really give Terry a poor rating in Japan don't they? (Low damage output, poor meter cost efficiency, punishable prone by death combo, tough for him to break guard, etc.)
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Thanks for the cast guys (voted).
Interesting that Dune surmises Claw Iori is quite likely to end up with only a 1-2 frame disadvantage after ;dn ;db ;bk ;k guarded by that it is not punishable by a normal. Think it's fine for that chr to end up with a safe move, but hoping there will be a slight disadvantage so that it's not spammed crazily.
He feels that Joe is probably too strong now by virtue of his slide cancelling...to which I can kinda agree (but don't overly mind being a Joe player!). I guess a quip I have about that is his gameplay starts to resemble Hwa's.
Man they really give Terry a poor rating in Japan don't they? (Low damage output, poor meter cost efficiency, punishable prone by death combo, tough for him to break guard, etc.)
Thanks for voting BioBooster,
Yeah I have to agree I saw Joe having sooooo many options which is good and all, but the like Dune said, Terry can get shutdown too easy. The thing that makes Joe's buffs so significant is that it improves his game play, where as Terry's buffs only slightly improves his combo abilities
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Yeah think it is nearly a first with XIII to have Joe be stronger than Terry (although don't know that it was intended with arcarde).
Also, I agree with Kane317 that Ryo's weak dp didn't exactly feel slow.
Looks like everyone's gameplay is going to be even more defined on console which is great. I think they are doing a great job in blatantly making not only lesser played characaters, but lesser used moves more appealing - excellent... We'll actually get to see supers like Chour-reppadan and Haoh-Shokoken more frequently.
Dune thought it is better to be careful with Haoh-Shokoken buffs as those new to KOF may get shutout by not being able to deal with it. Meh, I say just block it. Super fireballs needed buffs, bc EX fireballs were generally too strong (fast/erase other fbs) making super fbs much less useful - in my opinion, I think they should all get damage buffs too.
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Thanks for the vote Bio. Dune definitely has some good insights and he's quite perceptive. Check out both interviews if you haven't already.
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http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/gMYCgYkWr4tp (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/gMYCgYkWr4tp)
Nocturnal and I go through some of the classic SNK commercials from the 90's, with some help from the professor of MadMan's Cafe. We finish about 30min in then somehow get thrown into a joystick discussion.
Thumb up and rate us if you guys dig it.
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Fixed double post -Kane317
http://www.elive.pro/watch/bYsAv1CG7RbF (http://www.elive.pro/watch/bYsAv1CG7RbF)
I interview that one guy, metaphysics. he's kind of cool.
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i think it's worth watching :
http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/ZCfOCNXc3b5t (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/ZCfOCNXc3b5t)
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http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/gMYCgYkWr4tp (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/gMYCgYkWr4tp)
Nocturnal and I go through some of the classic SNK commercials from the 90's, with some help from the professor of MadMan's Cafe. We finish about 30min in then somehow get thrown into a joystick discussion.
Thumb up and rate us if you guys dig it.
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Fixed double post -Kane317
http://www.elive.pro/watch/bYsAv1CG7RbF (http://www.elive.pro/watch/bYsAv1CG7RbF)
I interview that one guy, metaphysics. he's kind of cool.
Some really cool casts, thanks for these!
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I added the ON Show #22 to the first page as well.
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http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/MZWVgiGmFwSE (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/MZWVgiGmFwSE) Dune interview part 3 in case you guys didn't see it
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http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/jj1C3F6A6SmM (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/jj1C3F6A6SmM)
Gunsmith shows off some KoF Skins in SFIV, discusses some other stuff... the important part for this board is that he has about 30 min more of console version match vids from apparently MCM, within the cast too:)
http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/N3Flw3wOja1i (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/N3Flw3wOja1i)
Pharaon and Kenpachi show off Color Edit and Mission modes! Once again in French. Gives us a solid idea of what we'll be able to do rather soon...
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ladies and gents we'll be casting this weekend with Dune for the last week, if there are any last good questions you'd like to ask Dune please list them here and we'll consider asking them thank you and hope to see you guys at the cast
http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/8kr24upxe20U (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/8kr24upxe20U)
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^The cast is up (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/8kr24upxe20U)so thank you for watching. Once again, please vote our cast so we can get the Dream Cancel name out there!
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Thanks heaps again for the great series. Any plans for upcoming casts?
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AoF Team console changes (ENG)
http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/XwBs1ONqvrPV (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/XwBs1ONqvrPV)
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Interview with MK (CEO/Co-Founder of eLive)
http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/B8vO10SZD9wk (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/B8vO10SZD9wk)
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Looking to start up a new Elive cast titled "Select Your Order". I'll be taking 3-5 matches per episode (either by submission or high profile matches) and go through them in depth by pointing out particular strategies/character matchups/whatever comes to mind. Note that the difference here is that not all the matches will be tournament level matches. I'll take a look at any submission, provided you have a reason for doing so, for things like advice on improving or even why you may have lost a particular match (sort of like a mailbag featurette). The point of this show will be to get the community more involved at looking at their gameplay and improving. I understand how difficult it can be starting out, and there will definitely be a lot of new players to KOF. Sometimes, just watching videos, it's difficult to read into what may or may not be useful to your game, so I hope the show will be able to address that issue for some players. Hopefully, you, those of you who feel up to sending your matches in or pointing me toward your replays, do so! I'll try to get this started ASAP once console drops. If you have any comments/suggestions, please let me know.
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Interview with Juicebox
http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/v24Dr0G6s8BU (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/v24Dr0G6s8BU)
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Another great interview Giby - thanks!
Way to go in grabbing the talent as usual :)
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That interview with Juicebox was really good. I'm glad he touched on the issues with the current generation of fighting games in a very political correct manner. It was basically communicating my sentiments exactly but in a much better way then I ever could. lol
Coming from a Guilty Gear background I really hope that KoF does really well world wide and more specifically in North America.
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SoCal v NorCal: A Prelude to SCR (Metaphysics, Kane317, Giby, Hellpockets, Chris-tan, RogerDodger Soulstar)
http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/fg7JV3rsDTg2 (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/fg7JV3rsDTg2) NSFW
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so with our little Fiasco last night we managed to get a lot of Nor Cal Into making E live accounts, Suckers!! But seriously Last night was fun and our future Casts should prove to be hype, let's just not shit talk for two hours lol, and make it one
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Good stuff, on the front page.
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http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/RcjqUeUiX9LS (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/RcjqUeUiX9LS)
Cast by Dune on current impressions on console chrs.
If I have time, I'll post an ENG summary here and on the tier thread bc there is no video.
UPDATE: Here's what I have.
Dune provides a foreword stating that these are merely his impressions at current and also
that he may be missing some detail in his analysis.
Ash:
Weak combos, that tend to increase opponent meter.
Good at being annoying.
For being a difficult chr to play not much return.
Billy:
Weak in breaking down guard, has strong zoning and normals instead.
Probably only real Billy users can make him strong.
Fun to use.
Saiki:
In general has no powerful combos outside of the corner.
It's not impossible to carry opponents to the corner but range on this is limited and carrying difficult.
(probably a lot of room for study mid-screen)
Upper-mid tier or Mid-upper tier.
Elizabeth:
Combos have less damage output.
Still good with a lot of meter.
Can still compete as EX counter can be comboed with specials.
People who chose her bc she was strong may move onto other stronger chrs.
Duo-Lon:
Has been affected by system changes.
His crossups are easier to defend taking value away from his rekka setups.*
Requires more precision.
I rate him low.
*(Not that sure I have this translated right)
Shen:
Nerfed slightly, balance-wise seems just right.
Can be put in any order.
I reccomend him.
Kyo:
Currently top tier, but takes skill to play.
Requires close combat for big damage, but this creates opportunity for opponents to punish him.
Can lack some stability due to the above, so requires a lot of practice despite move properties being good.
Benimaru:
Has everything, but has no jump attacks that are effective when used early.
j.CD is angled up and not that useful, if hitbox was downward, would lead to more of an advantage.
Has great tools like s.D, cmd throw, follow up on normal throw - close, but no cigar though.
Goro:
Buffed alot, but, is very matchup based.
Combos using hcf.A hcf.C dp.K are fun and good damage can be done when NM is included.
However, very few tools versus strong zoning.
Weak against air attacking, end up using dp.K to change the tide - comes down to what a player does in these
situations.
Not a bad pick though.
Claw Iori:
No good reversal moves (only EX DP - and better to use this preemptively).
Otherwise, good at breaking down guard and able to destroy once that's done making him easy to use.
Kinda like having a nameless without a good dp and a cmd throw instead.
Mature:
Despite move properties, easy to win with.
Strong Despair (and EX for anti-air), very good, esp in net-play.
Use throw and low start mixups for damage.
A bit lower tier, but can win.
Vice:
Less damage than arcade, but moves are better. Makes for longer matches.
Can pressure opponent with lots of meter, but no longer able to convert to death off of one combo.
Players should make sure to be well-practiced w her.
Still one of the better chrs.
Terry:
Currently I think he's the lowest.
Despite this, his combos are easy, strong rising tackle invincibility is good and crackshoot is good.
We'll see what Terry players are able to do with him going forward.
Andy:
Not hugely different from the arcade, but people used to the arcade may get frustrated when not
everything works the same.
i.e. Slower sweep, no invincibility on EX kuu-hadan.
Hishoken, kuu-hadan, NM are great for netplay, but less effective offline.
Joe:
Combos were great in the arcade - get's a lot of meter and can stun.
On console, getting a stun means the opponent ends up building 3 meters....making things difficult.
Can try to play him differently, but he loses flavor in doing so...
Kim:
A great Kim player, '3-seven' says Kim is very strong on console. I'd like to see him play in order to see.
Can't fight without meter. Without meter, far s.D to keep the opponent grounded while charging meter may
be the only way to go.
Hwa:
Has become very good on console.
Not a main for me, but will use him in sub teams.
Just using far s.D is strong.
Using heel for frame advantage is strong.
Has a 1 frame throw.
Def top tier.
Raiden:
Much weaker, requires skill now.
Still plenty of tools to do well. Raiden players in the arcade should have no trouble.
Can't recommend him to players just getting started on console.
Athena:
Looks like she was buffed, her playstyle is not best suited for this game.
fb~dp play doesn't do much damage.
Low damage output in general - perhaps someone will find something effective with her.
Her jump being low and ground attacks being weak really hurt her.
Looks strong, but think she's lower tier.
Kensou:
A lot of tiny buffs, such as being able to follow up off of normal throw.
However, like Athena is not best suited for the game.
Normals looks strong, but aren't really.
Maybe upper-mid tier.
Looking forward to the uncovering of more potential though.
Chin:
My least favorite to fight against in this team.
More buffs than nerfs, but EX counter has a smaller window making it a bit iffy, but
still has the potential for getting huge damage. If opponents stay away fearing his
combos, he just drinks making matters worse.
Can def win.
Ryo:
Looks very improved, but when it comes down to it, the only mid-range tool he has is
kooh-ken. On a whiff, he can be killed often. Not to say he can't compete, but players may struggle.
Although f.A became faster, it's reach is very limited. What's more is it's easy to drop his HD
combos online. Fun to use but...
Robert:
No incredible combos at the moment.
Mid range he has fb, s.CD, and dp. All interesting elements for him.
Great for people who like footsies characters.
Think he's mid-tier, but may all come down to the use of his NM which is very useful.
Takuma:
All comes down to getting that one opportunity.
Many of his combos can finish the opponent once started.
A double-edged sword though as he gives a lot of meter to the opponent.
Ralf:
Much easier to use.
Lower tier though.
Has few options for breaking down guard.
Fun combos.
Clark:
Not very strong property-wise, but very easy to win with him.
I recommend him to new players.
Difficult to reverse momentum with him though.
Leona:
Playstyle doesn't vary much from the arcade.
Some buffing, but nothing that really affects play.
Good with meter, but not the best with damage output.
Good anchor, but not geared towards reverse ocvs.
(maybe better geared towards 2nd position)
Mai:
Normal and big j.D can be cancelled with d.B makes it much easier to do mid-low mixups.
If jump d.B is guarded, usually at 0 or -1 making it difficult to punish her.
It comes down to footsies and use of jumping for her.
Also a chr with low properties, but easy to win with.
Yuri:
Extremely buffed and close combat much easier.
Has dp+K, a 1 frame throw which can be DC'd or SC'd.
A bit lacking in getting in on the opponent.
Although attack frames of j.CD have been increased, it doesn't have the range to be that effective.
If her jump-ins were better, she would be incredible. I use her as a sub, definitely worth studying further.
King:
In JPN everyone thought her console changes looked really weak.
She is extremely strong. Works well with the game engine.
Good close and from afar. Locking down the opponent with sliding/venom strikes is very strong.
K':
People coming from the arcade shouldn't have difficulty, but those starting on console may struggle.
Corner combos and combos using meter are still effective.
Not quite top tier.
Kula:
I think she's a bit difficult to use losing invincibility on EX ray spin, as the invincibility on her
crow bytes is not that reliable. More range on s.B doesn't really change anything.
People will likely have a tough time as her damage output is not great.
Maxima:
EX press does less damage as well as some other minor damage nerfs.
Still very versatile and strong with meter.
On the other hand, he's slow and will be put into situations where he has to endure pressure.
Probably will only end up getting used by true Maxima users.
That covers all the characters I think.
My team will likely be Kyo/Goro/Claw Iori...
Because Goro's effectiveness is based on matchups, I may switch him with King or Vice.
I didn't discuss Flame Iori, but think he's top tier.
Very good tools, very stable. If you're not sure who to choose as a third character, he's very
easy to use and strong.
On the other hand, it could be said that he doesn't have a whole lot of potential to grow and that
other characters may become stronger. But at any rate, he's very stable currently.
Haven't discussed NESTS Kyo or Mr. Karate as they're not available yet, but I can't imagine any of
the DLC chrs being weak so please pick them up and give them a try.
Personally I wish I could make a team with Kyo/Flame Iori/Claw Iori...
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Dune is always very level headed and insightful, thanks for the write up Bio!
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No worries at all Kane.
There are very few Japanese top players who openly message out info on the game like he does, so kind of nice to hear what he says.
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Metaphysics and I interview ShinBlanka, the man behind one of the biggest tournaments in the US, Final Round.
http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/rcWs1vAy3KTS (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/rcWs1vAy3KTS)
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Nice interview as usual giby. Enjoyed the MOTW analysis you posted recently too - insane matches. (shame you guys aren't goint to the JPN tourney this year!)
Here's a recent one by dune
http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/imHPEBagWRxB (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/imHPEBagWRxB)
Although I'm only summarizing, posting the link for the visuals since he discusses.
- his going to evo and preparing a team that would do well in case monitors at evo are laggy (heard that this may be the case)
- shows his tier list using mmcafe-prof's generator @2:00. The interesting thing is look at how crazily superimposed the chrs are. In general, he still feels the same way about differences in strength in terms of advantages in the reasoning he provided previously, but makes a point of saying that the game is incredibly balanced hence the ridiculously cramped arrangement. (note that karate is not supposed to be strongest, just thrown into the corner until more can be confirmed)
- someone in the chat links him frionel's tier diagram and dune speculates on frionel's rankings @12:19. Looks like frionel doesn't rank terry high despite others in france supposedly doing so.
- someone in chat volunteers a match btwn frionel and somone from morocco
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http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/n15TPVBvU4Qm (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/n15TPVBvU4Qm)
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The Orochinagi Show 26 - Poongko, The Answer, SCR Top 4, Hypespotting and more
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Me, the_Merciless, Daximus get together for shenanigans.
More destruction: Interview with top players Nigel, Merciless (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/dahjRbv9Fx19)
Summore of the usual tasteless jokes and acting like asses.
Items covered:
Interview with British player Nigel.
Tragic talent contest.
Absurd recipes.
Disgusting eating of meats.
Laughing at Larpers/Cosplayers.
Unveiling of Berzerk Anime movies.
Some damn good Beatboxing.
Request for French songs.
KOF XIII Combos.
Fight stick review and info.
Akihabara info.
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Gunsmith Interviews The Answer (http://www.elive.pro/watch/4sjAwDaYrVS5)
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Dune invites a bunch of top players to play.
Tokido vs Yukichi
http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/FKAe2VSsEmmo (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/FKAe2VSsEmmo)
Tokido vs Yukichi
Kingyo vs Tokido
Haregoro vs Tokido
http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/79VHEYp4T4zE (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/79VHEYp4T4zE)
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Posted by Dune:
Console beginner vs Nagihe
Haregoro vs Kingyo
Kingyo vs Haregoro
http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/XMHbhaTJ4QrA (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/XMHbhaTJ4QrA)
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Giby interviews Mr. KOF
Interview with WGC KOFXIII Champion: eLivepro|Mr KOF (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/UARHKbv3LJp9)
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KOF XIII Climax: Japan Scene|Week two of Nishinippori Kohaku Battles (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/0gAshQZjEvxd)
With EVO this close and people quite keen on talent just about everywhere, solidshark and I ran a cast to help expose the Japanese scene to DC now that Climax is being taken up in earnest in various locations out here.
Our goal is to get peeps intimate with the players, provide updates on the scene and get everyone familiar with the match format at Nishinippori Versus arcade famous for having done 84 weeks of 2k2UM tourneys touting the best of the best in eastern Japan. 2k2 has finally taken a back seat and it's Climax in the spotlight from this point forward.
Watch Climax matches with us as top players make the transition from the legendary 2k2 game which is now done with it's run. Time for some XIII for real.
We'll see you guys for a follow-up with week 3 Kohaku Climax battles on another cast next week! Yeeeeeeeargh!!
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http://www.elive.pro/en/cast/lead (http://www.elive.pro/en/cast/lead)
DCR Japan: KOF XIII Climax Kohaku Battles Week #1 (and you thought we were going to forget wk 1)
--We went back and covered the week one battles that we hadn't done yet. Our friend at Nishinippori Versus has not yet uploaded the videos because he was away. Hope to get em by Friday where we'll do week 3 if they're available.
solid, saitsu and I were very pleased and surprised to see some great tech we hadn't run into where we were expecting more bloopers in wk 1 since the crowd out here hasn't been playing XIII between 1.1 and Climax.
Enjoy!
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http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/8drtTIQ71XVI (http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/8drtTIQ71XVI)
The ON Show 37: Dune | Gunsmith | Haregoro
Gunsmith vs Haregoro... and Haregoro vs Dune :D
(When I watched it yesterday the subtitle originally said Dune Rapes Gunsmith and Haregoro takes sloppy seconds - lolol)