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King of Fighters XIII => Character Discussion => Ash Crimson => Topic started by: Sharnt on December 07, 2011, 08:59:30 PM
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[KOF XIII] Ash Crimson : Sans-Culotte tutorial (English Version) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwCqN-S81Ng#ws)
Yeah ok it's not really a good start for a discussion but it's jut to let the beginners find it easily.
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Just what the doctor ordered lol, wanted to give him a serious try today and needed some quick tips and a basic loop for that super.
Thank you
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I don't understand that midscreen combo. The video says that if the opponent is gunna cross you up then do Nivose lower. I do that and they still manage to cross me up. I try to do it as late as possible and they still cross me up, but, sometimes they don't. I don't fucking get it.
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So this is probably a retarded question, and I recognize the fact, however.
When I want to activate Sans-Culotte with ;a ;b ;c ;d I get HD, every single time and I occasionally get Sans-Culotte while i'm in HD mode, which isn't really doing me any good. Any solution?
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So this is probably a retarded question, and I recognize the fact, however.
When I want to activate Sans-Culotte with ;a ;b ;c ;d I get HD, every single time and I occasionally get Sans-Culotte while i'm in HD mode, which isn't really doing me any good. Any solution?
You're probably just inputting it too fast.
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What do you mean doing it too fast? Its ABCD all together isn't it?
I literally can't get it to happen without activating HD first.
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What do you mean doing it too fast? Its ABCD all together isn't it?
I literally can't get it to happen without activating HD first.
You don't press them at the same time, you press them in order A, then B, then C, then D.
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What do you mean doing it too fast? Its ABCD all together isn't it?
I literally can't get it to happen without activating HD first.
You don't press them at the same time, you press them in order A, then B, then C, then D.
.....I'm a scrub, thanks.
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Two Questions
- what is the best reps for corner carry during SC ?
- what is the highest damage reps in corner during SC ?
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tips about the part
;dn ;up ;d, ;bk ;d, ;dn ;up ;b, ;dn ;up ;d, ;bk ;d ? in sans coulotte of course
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Hey guys .. so Im new here.. so please pardon my ignorance.. :) .. Im trying to pull off the combo off the tutorial that was given but I cant get the Sans-Culotte part right .. I mean I know the sequence but either ash hits the character in wish the other character is pushed back ( so when i do activate sans-culotte the opponent is not thrown up and therefore can start the combo) .. is there any delay sequence in pressing the buttons ?? thanks :)
P.S - Im using PS3 .. and LP is the square while HP is the triangle .. LK is the X and the HK is the O .. also can you use the L an R buttons to pull this off???
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You've gotta be doing it late. Press the HK as soon as you land from Floreal and it'll catch them. It actually has a ton of leeway on the button presses. You can wait almost a full second in between, as long as it is in sequence.
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thanks milln .. ill try to do that
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Sooo, am I the only one who gets pissed about his console sans-cullotes damage now? I'm doing that OMG IM SO AWESOME combo but when i look at the dmg it's so... meh...
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, so I came here to ask what are the most damaging sans-cullote combos you people know, corner-only and corner-carrying. They don't need to be exacly practical, I'm still exploring his damage, I just need to have better ideas for loops and stuff I should look for to optimize his damage.
By the way, SNK's latest video has some examples, unfortunately nothing new to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xNk05BUngX8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xNk05BUngX8#)!
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Sooo, am I the only one who gets pissed about his console sans-cullotes damage now? I'm doing that OMG IM SO AWESOME combo but when i look at the dmg it's so... meh...
That's pretty much the conclusion I came to as well. I think its only worth if you go straight into a HD combo after it (or go into it from an HD combo) or maybe if you do another SC after the first one ends.
So yeah, don't think it worth the risk/effort to do it raw (as in just one SC by itself).
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Couldn't get an answer so here what i found out so far
I have 3 Corner Reps :
1] ;a ;b ;c ;d- (;bk ;d- ;bk ;fd ;d - ;bk ;b) X6 - ;bk ;fd ;c
Damage = 314
+very easy one and can be done from mid screen (just skip the ;bk ;b in the first rep)
+good damage and can go to HD combos from ;bk ;d after it
-Doesn't give good damage after HD combos
2] ;a ;b ;c ;d - ;dn ;up ;b- ;dn ;up ;b- (;dn ;up ;b- ;bk ;d - ;bk ;fd ;d- ;bk ;b- ;bk ;fd ;c) X3
Damage = 292
- easy combo but works for corner only
- less damage for SC stand alone combo
+ deals good damage after HD combos (145) per combo
3] The one in mission 8
couldn't pull it off so i don't know
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what r some nice enders for sc ? could u list some examples of enders with CD or a way to get into HD ? finishing SC with ;bk ;fd ;d, ;bk ;d,(SC finish) whats next ? cause ;bk ;fd ;a comes out easy and then i can follow with ;bk ;d and CD but if i want to do another SC i cant hit him (even if i buffer ;a ;b ;c during the fireball then i run and press D).
for the HD after the last ;bk ;d should i do HD and ;bk ;fd ;c instead of CD ? there r other ways ?
oh and of course i just wrote this but if u know ways to improve the damage or hints like do the fireball with c instead of a or after b,D u can still add some moves they r welcome :)
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Couldn't get an answer so here what i found out so far
2] ;a ;b ;c ;d - ;dn ;up ;b- ;dn ;up ;b- (;dn ;up ;b- ;bk ;d - ;bk ;fd ;d- ;bk ;b- ;bk ;fd ;c) X3
Damage = 292
- easy combo but works for corner only
- less damage for SC stand alone combo
+ deals good damage after HD combos (145) per combo
3] The one in mission 8
Hayabusa posted this arcade video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wug_FR9UDtc#ws) in the Console thread. Around 0:18, there's a combo that starts from cr.B, b+B - taking out that part, they did this in the corner:
ABCD,
d~u+D, b+D, b~f+D, b+D (whiff), b~f+A,
[d~u+D, b+D, b~f+D, b+D (whiff)] x 3,
d~u+D, b+D, b~f+D, b+B (whiff), b~f+C,
b+D, dash, b+D, d~u+D
I moved the b~f+A to the first rep rather than the 4th for more damage - all total, this one does 402. Or if you feel iffy about landing the two b+Ds at the end, you can go right into d~u+D after b~f+C for 386 - that's what I'm doing right now.
This also assumed you can do the b~f+A earlier - I'm not sure if you have to do the b~f+A at rep #4 in order to keep the opponent high enough to land everything past the b~f+C at the end.
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Uhm, dunno if this is posted or not. I was looking over the thread, but it doesn't say you can combo into San-cuolotte from normals or command normals. I was toying around with it and you can enter sans-cuolotte from doing d.b x2 into back+B.
Again, didn't see it, thought I'd mention it.
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Uhm, dunno if this is posted or not. I was looking over the thread, but it doesn't say you can combo into San-cuolotte from normals or command normals. I was toying around with it and you can enter sans-cuolotte from doing d.b x2 into back+B.
Again, didn't see it, thought I'd mention it.
I'm pretty sure it has been mentioned in the original arcade thread but I could be wrong.
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Edit: Juicebox gave me a really consistent sans-culotte combo! Work midscreen, corner, off an anti-air launch, or a d.B xx back+B (how exactly are you supposed to be in range for sans-culotte after two crouch Bs into back+B anyway??):
Activate and make sure you don't hit juggle them too low after with:
d~u+D, b+D, b~f+D, b+B;
then [b~f+B, b+D, b~F+D, b+B] x3-4, finisher
I was having issues with the midscreen back and forth stuff and I prefer consistency + landing germinal in the corner for better pressure. Thanks juicebox!