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Title: Vice wiki building thread
Post by: nilcam on December 14, 2011, 12:47:34 AM: http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Vice_(XIII) (http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Vice_(XIII))

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Title: Re: Vice wiki building thread
Post by: SpLSlick on December 19, 2012, 05:48:07 AM: Hyper Drive Combos
(1) JC, st. C, f+A, [HD] st. C, f+A, hcbx2+AC, [MC] qcb hcf+AC

Needs to be changed to
(1) JC, st. C, f+A, [HD] st. C, f+A, hcbx2+BD, [MC] qcb hcf+AC
Title: Re: Vice wiki building thread
Post by: t3h mAsTarOth...! on June 03, 2013, 01:34:35 AM: Wow her wiki page is empty here... Ok i officially picked her up and will be putting time into her soo i'll see what i can contribute...
Title: Re: Vice wiki building thread
Post by: desmond_kof on June 03, 2013, 03:25:04 AM: Yeah it can use a bit more detail. Currently I have NCV and Josh_KOF working on it correcting some errors. Feel free to contribute what you think it lacks.
Title: Re: Vice wiki building thread
Post by: t3h mAsTarOth...! on June 06, 2013, 06:42:26 PM: Vice counter hit s.C+D combos...

0 meter - s.C+D, hcf+D, qcb+C, qcf+C
1 meter - s.C+D, hcf+D, qcb+AC, qcb+A, qcf+C
1 meter + 1 drive - s.C+D, hcf+D, qcb+AC, qcb+A, DC, hcf+D, qcb+C, qcf+C
2 meters - s.C+D, hcf+D, qcb+AC, hop C+D, hcf+BD, s.D, f+A, qcb+C, qcf+C
2 meters + 1 drive - s.C+D, hcf+D, qcb+C, DC, qcb+AC, qcb+A, s.A, hcf+BD, s.D, f+A, qcb+C, qcf+C

In the corner you can do s.C+D, hop C+D, hcf+BD, s.D, f+A, qcb+C, qcf+C for a 1 bar combo...
Title: Re: Vice wiki building thread
Post by: Mr.Minionman on July 06, 2013, 04:23:22 AM: I've tested and added in a bunch of combos for her wiki thread. If there are any you think I should add, or if you catch any mistakes, feel free to point it out.

I'm thinking about elaborating on oki from different finishers, and adding in a few details and notes for some of the combos.

Also, would anyone mind if I remove this combo from the quick combo reference: j.C, st.D, f.A, hcf+BD, st.D, f.A, qcb,hcf+AC = 582 dmg) ? It seems like a huge waste of meter, even if it is easier. If it needs an easy meter dump combo (though i don't think her more efficient combos are too hard), maybe something like a jump in > chain > ex Deicide > chain > super
Title: Re: Vice wiki building thread
Post by: desmond_kof on July 06, 2013, 07:55:00 AM: Good job man. You can go ahead and add which ever you feel is more helpful...and you can remove that 4 bar combo in her quick combo reference. I'll be editing the spacing on some of her sections for it can align and match well with the other wiki pages.
Title: Re: Vice wiki building thread
Post by: Mr.Minionman on July 07, 2013, 11:17:32 PM: Quote from: t3h mAsTarOth...! on June 06, 2013, 06:42:26 PM
Vice counter hit s.C+D combos...

0 meter - s.C+D, hcf+D, qcb+C, qcf+C
1 meter - s.C+D, hcf+D, qcb+AC, qcb+A, qcf+C
1 meter + 1 drive - s.C+D, hcf+D, qcb+AC, qcb+A, DC, hcf+D, qcb+C, qcf+C
2 meters - s.C+D, hcf+D, qcb+AC, hop C+D, hcf+BD, s.D, f+A, qcb+C, qcf+C
2 meters + 1 drive - s.C+D, hcf+D, qcb+C, DC, qcb+AC, qcb+A, s.A, hcf+BD, s.D, f+A, qcb+C, qcf+C

In the corner you can do s.C+D, hop C+D, hcf+BD, s.D, f+A, qcb+C, qcf+C for a 1 bar combo...

added these to the combo section. I like that st. C+D, hcf+D is a blockstring, so even if it doesn't connect so it's still safe to do regardless. I replaced the 4 stock combo with j. C, cl. D, f+A, qcb+AC, cl.D, hcf+BD, cl.D, f+A, hcbx2+BD = 656 dmg, which I think is about as easy, and not nearly as wasteful with meter. An alternative is to just do the same combo that was there before, and replace the neo max with hcbx2+BD, which does 533 dmg for 3 meter, but I think I like what's there now.

I'll be adding more notes for her combos in the future, as well as changing some of her move descriptions. ((EX) = hcf+BD - Faster and has more invincible start-up.!??)
Title: Re: Vice wiki building thread
Post by: Mr.Minionman on July 30, 2013, 10:02:37 PM: I revamped her move descriptions and fixed a bunch of mis-information (though I've not yet full double-checked her damage values, there were a couple that were wrong). I'd love for input on this, new information helps me too :P

Up next I want to rewrite her Gameplay Overview, Tips, and Strategy sections when I get the time though perhaps someone else has a good idea for what to put there? Idk, the overview feels very wrong to me, but I'm not sure yet how to change it.

Additionally in the EX Iori thread Desmond had mentioned adding in common combo starters/enders, and I think Vice could benefit from this as well (especially regarding the enders as I've found a bunch of nuances).

I don't guess there are many Vice players here (doesn't seem like it to me at least), but I'd love help on her matchups section too. I can't play many different players, so my matchup experience is limited to fighting a couple of characters and thats it. I think I might miss a bunch of important stuff if I try to write about the matchups I don't know
Title: Re: Vice wiki building thread
Post by: Great_Dark_Hero on October 07, 2013, 06:17:32 PM: Added some information on Vice's MU section.
Title: Re: Vice wiki building thread
Post by: Mr.Minionman on October 07, 2013, 07:16:00 PM: Cool! I appreciate the effort man.

Related to the wiki, I've added in a few new combos I've found, and altered the strat/tips section a bit, but outside of that i'm not to sure where to go next :P
Title: Re: Vice wiki building thread
Post by: Great_Dark_Hero on October 07, 2013, 07:43:17 PM: Alright!
There is a slight addition to Vice's Pros section.
Added a little more information in the match up section.