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Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: meiji_99 on January 05, 2012, 02:43:49 PM
With the importance of live streaming E-live TV ratings, i hope that there are ways to ensure one or two places to the KOF EVO for years to come:

- Bringing the Mexican, Latin America, France, Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese player and maybe Dakou & Xiaohai (to name a few).
- Make up a sort of challenge around the nation to better KOF, you know, that little rivalry patriotic that we have in each forum of KOF / SNK.
- Accelerate the buzz
- Expanding numbers of viewers live during the tournament.
just my 2 cent :D.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Sanger Zonvolt on January 05, 2012, 04:30:13 PM
Good luck to all DC members who make it out to EVO.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: ELTRO on January 05, 2012, 06:27:05 PM
Man I would really like to go to EVO, especially to get another chance to play WC again. But my situation with school and work and not getting enough hours is preventing me from supporting the game.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: sibarraz on January 05, 2012, 07:19:31 PM
What did wizard said that was controversial? I could not understand him

Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Diavle on January 05, 2012, 07:29:52 PM
BB was dropped because not enough ppl came to support it last year (as in entrants).
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Saitsuofleaves on January 05, 2012, 07:38:49 PM
Yeah, BB being dropped was hella justified.  It keeps getting pot bonuses...and people still don't show up to play.  They wanna throw the excuse "Oh well...we don't feel like playing because Extend is around the corner", big fucking deal.  I don't see any other players complaining about having to play an older game until the update/sequel comes out.  You go out and support, you don't...well big deal.

They couldn't even crack 200 at EVO, that's pathetic.  Say what you want about the current crudware of SFxT, but even with this shitty build, at least it'd be guaranteed to pull at least 200+ at EVO right now.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Terrastorm on January 05, 2012, 07:45:57 PM
Fuck it, you guys really don't know shit about whats going on or the scene, shouldn't havbe brought shit up.
So what's going on?
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Zabel on January 05, 2012, 07:57:46 PM
Drunk+Angry posting bad idea.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: ELTRO on January 05, 2012, 07:58:34 PM
Still though I liked BB top 4 on EVO. It was actually enjoyable. Sucks that is not gonna be on EVO although Extended is out next month.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: sibarraz on January 05, 2012, 08:02:14 PM
But what did wizard said, I really want to know what's going on in the scene, seemes the reasons to put SXT didn't seemed that good, but like I said, I didn't understood well what happened
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: ELTRO on January 05, 2012, 08:05:52 PM
SFXT is in simply cause it's a Capcom tittle. As for BB I also heard that Mr Wizard said something that did not bode well with the BB community.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: FakeVariable on January 05, 2012, 08:22:12 PM
I was hosting. The speed was erratic & my inputs were dropping randomly.  He seemed to have no problems with dropping whtsoever. The 1st time I just chalked it up to a fluke but when we were even through 3 matches and then the lag started it seemed curious. Hewas a Bishop if that matters.

This happens to me sometimes too.  I know some people are better at compensating for lag and what not, but it honestly seems like the lag is one sided at times.  For instance, yesterday when I was playing online (it is not usually like this for me) it felt kind of choppy, seemed like random inputs were being dropped, or registered late, but it was like this against everyone I played and it didn't appear as if they were having the same problems.  I was playing a couple of guys where I couldn't block small jumps due to lag and they were landing full HD combos with no problem, lol....could just be them being able to deal with it better though, idk.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Saitsuofleaves on January 05, 2012, 08:23:14 PM
I'm assuming it's the snipe saying the community isn't supporting the game as well as they should.  Which, and I'm not the biggest Wiz fan, doesn't seem very inaccurate.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Ky0 on January 05, 2012, 09:07:07 PM
Really glad with that EVO presence!!
That's really good to KOF and SNK!

Damn, Dat Hype! :)
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: the7k on January 05, 2012, 09:22:40 PM
Maybe it's just my area, but Arcana Heart 3 seems more popular than any iteration of BlazBlue at this point.

When it comes to the selection, there were really only 3 variable slots. You knew SSF4AE2012, UMvC3 and SFxT were going to be there.

As much as I don't care for it, they had to have Mortal Kombat there. It's a smash hit with American audiences and huge with the casual crowd, as evidenced by all the 'Fighter of the Year' awards it won.

EVO seems to always have a Namco fighter, and I'd say much better that it be SCV than the snooze-fest that was Tekken 6 last year. When the most entertaining thing about your tournament is Aris + Kayo Police... yeah. That means something.

So, there was really only one slot left to give, and considering how amazing a reception KOFXIII has been getting with the hardcore fighting game fans, there really wasn't a choice.

There's always side tournaments.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: sibarraz on January 05, 2012, 09:28:27 PM
If aris and kayo police where commentating in any of the other game, they would had still been the most entertaining thing in said tournament


But yeah, T6 had 0 hype
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Zabel on January 05, 2012, 09:49:59 PM
EVO seems to always have a Namco fighter, and I'd say much better that it be SCV than the snooze-fest that was Tekken 6 last year. When the most entertaining thing about your tournament is Aris + Kayo Police... yeah. That means something.
Couple things, Tekken 6 has slowly been winding down a bit since about two years ago, EVO isn't really a BIG tournament for Tekken FR is considered the biggest one for the most part, and Tekken always gets lame as fuck time slots at EVO. And Tekken had some hype, the JustFramejames matches were the shit, lame most everyone defaulted to Bob seeing how they're getting ready for TTT2.

And man even iff both BB, KoF, and MK all got in *Three games I play* I'd still be twerked SCV and SFxT got in, two games that aren't even out yet, neihter of which have guarteed comminities. I thought EVO wasn't supposed to be building scenes?
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Saitsuofleaves on January 05, 2012, 09:58:37 PM
Except for the fact that at NEC, SCIV still had more entries than BB:CS2.  Now people could use the excuse that SCV was on demo, but so was Extend.

I mean, I hate to be the douche in this situation, but Blazblue has done nothing in the past year to deserve a spot at EVO.  MK9, a game that was supposed to be DEAD after EVO, kept getting support, especially in the EC, kept having the community showing up and playing even after the countless patches and such.  Regardless of what you think of the game, when the community keeps showing up, even with the likelihood of a lack of support in the future from NRS, at least until a new MK is being developed, they deserved the slot they got, simple as that.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: sibarraz on January 05, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
Saitsu is a bit right on how the BB comunity sometimes screw themselves

For example, when the whole fiasco of the type x2 being ''emulated'' with a brand new vainilla continuum shift being avaliable for everyone, the BB decided to not participate on EVO in the calamity trigger tournament because everyone was playing illegally the new version

Don't know if that was effectively like that or was just an excuse to not put CT on evo 2010, but regardless, is stupid to not play something with the excuse that a new version will come out
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Diavle on January 05, 2012, 10:22:38 PM
Sounds like a bunch of finger pointing at other communities/games instead of giving reasons as to why BB had a weak showing.

Also, I'd be pretty surprised if SFxT didn't get a really big following. And with T6 out, I think its fair that fans of 3D fighting games get a game in via SC5.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Reiki.Kito on January 05, 2012, 10:27:33 PM
I really, really hope we crack 200 at EVO. There's no reason for it not to hit off.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Proto Cloud on January 05, 2012, 10:30:24 PM
Yeah, the BB community keeps shooting itself in the foot with bad decisions consistently. It also doesn't help that their showing at EVO was lacking any sort of hype and that ASW refuses to make significantly good revisions. It's a real shame, because CT was a great start.

It's no wonder their community is in shambles. I just hope that Persona 4: UMA doesn't fall to the same fate.

As for Tekken 6, I think no one was going to question why it was going to be dropped for SCV.

And as for SFxT, what can you do? Capcom sponsors this. People are going to drop that like a bad habit after EVO is done.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Zabel on January 05, 2012, 10:39:55 PM
Yeah, the BB community keeps shooting itself in the foot with bad decisions consistently. It also doesn't help that their showing at EVO was lacking any sort of hype and that ASW refuses to make significantly good revisions. It's a real shame, because CT was a great start.

It's no wonder their community is in shambles. I just hope that Persona 4: UMA doesn't fall to the same fate.

As for Tekken 6, I think no one was going to question why it was going to be dropped for SCV.

And as for SFxT, what can you do? Capcom sponsors this. People are going to drop that like a bad habit after EVO is done.
Wow, like I said none of you really know nothing about the scene. And BB never had hype at EVO? Really? When alot fof people considered BB along with MK to have the best finals, hella players got interested after, and MK had similair number of entrants at majors after EVO. And yeah we gave up our spot when CS was coming out because CT was a bad game. Holy fuck you guys are all doing the same shit other communities did to SNK games.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: mightfo on January 05, 2012, 10:42:54 PM
i am very glad that kof13 and sc5 made it in(even if sc5 isnt out yet, it seems quite solid and loved from pre-release play, and iirc sc4 had good turnouts before despite having lots of problems, sooo)
obviously i wish bb was in, but i can understand that since it seems to have had less entrants at tourneys than mk9 and such, that they'd put mk9 or whatever over it. size and effort is what it is. this seems to have lit a fire under the bb community's ass, so hopefully it will make it stronger in the long run. side tourneyyyy
also, people use the word "dead" way too liberally.

lol at sfxt being in though. i have seen virtually no hype for that game. i guess people will play it in huge numbers just because it is a capcom game, but..i dunno. Even when MVC3 and SF4 got hated on, they always had huge amounts of hype prerelease and such that sfxt just doesnt seem to have.


Saitsu is a bit right on how the BB comunity sometimes screw themselves

For example, when the whole fiasco of the type x2 being ''emulated'' with a brand new vainilla continuum shift being avaliable for everyone, the BB decided to not participate on EVO in the calamity trigger tournament because everyone was playing illegally the new version

Don't know if that was effectively like that or was just an excuse to not put CT on evo 2010, but regardless, is stupid to not play something with the excuse that a new version will come out

No, that decision was not stupid at all.  CT was a completely ass game that didn't deserve to be at EVO. Additionally, top players were playing CS at places like arcade infinity. Scene was already split, the leak just made CT completely abandoned, as it should have been. CT at EVO would have been about as hype as KOF12 being at EVO when top players were playing arcade KOF13. undesirable.

Yeah, the BB community keeps shooting itself in the foot with bad decisions consistently. It also doesn't help that their showing at EVO was lacking any sort of hype and that ASW refuses to make significantly good revisions. It's a real shame, because CT was a great start.

The fact that you call CT a "Great start" and think the revisions weren't good shows that you really don't know what you're talking about.

also, BB top 8 was hype as fuck.




in any case, congrats kof13 and sc5~
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Saitsuofleaves on January 05, 2012, 10:53:45 PM
Yeah, the BB community keeps shooting itself in the foot with bad decisions consistently. It also doesn't help that their showing at EVO was lacking any sort of hype and that ASW refuses to make significantly good revisions. It's a real shame, because CT was a great start.

It's no wonder their community is in shambles. I just hope that Persona 4: UMA doesn't fall to the same fate.

As for Tekken 6, I think no one was going to question why it was going to be dropped for SCV.

And as for SFxT, what can you do? Capcom sponsors this. People are going to drop that like a bad habit after EVO is done.
Wow, like I said none of you really know nothing about the scene. And BB never had hype at EVO? Really? When alot fof people considered BB along with MK to have the best finals, hella players got interested after, and MK had similair number of entrants at majors after EVO. And yeah we gave up our spot when CS was coming out because CT was a bad game. Holy fuck you guys are all doing the same shit other communities did to SNK games.

Similar numbers, but MK still had more players than you.  Even on the WEST COAST.   

As for us doing the same shit that other communities did to SNK games, it's not like it was unwarranted.  Until XIII, KOF was pretty fucking niche here in the US.  EVO isn't gonna put on a game just for the sake of every other country, the US has to have some kind of interest and force shown in previous tourneys in order to be considered.

Stop playing the fucking victim.  Alright, BB did indeed have a hype final at EVO, but if we let every game in just on the sake for a hype final or a hyped match, there'd never be any cuts from EVO.

But please, since we're on the subject, tell us all about your community since we don't know anything about it, and give a damn good reason why it deserves to be in over either KOF or MK9, aka the games that actually have the spots BB would've been in.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Zabel on January 05, 2012, 10:57:03 PM
You must be some kidn of retarded if you think I want BB in over MK & KOF, two games I actually play and enjoy seriously. I got beef with TWO games that aren't even released yet getting in.Hell I can even see why BB's not in, I don't really agree but I can see why. I don't blaem people for not playing CS2 when they have CSEX and twe got to play catch up, BB has always done alrihgt at Tournaments and Majors except during times when a revision is coming out soon, things slow down then pick up later.

There's no need to do personal insults -Kane317
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: the7k on January 05, 2012, 11:08:46 PM
Personally, I fell out of BlazBlue because of the fast turnabout in sequels. I liked CT, but it seemed to last for no time at all before CS came out. Then came along CS2 and now CS:Extend. I guess I should have expected nothing less from the makers of Guilty Gear, though.

As for why SCV and SFxT got in: They need a 3D fighter, and EVO is more or less owned by Capcom. There's no way Capcom is going to release a game for consoles, and that game not end up at that year's EVO.

At least they aren't doing non-fighting games again like they did with Mario Kart - although I would like to see high level play of Jimmie Johnson's Anything with an Engine.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Saitsuofleaves on January 05, 2012, 11:16:51 PM
You must be some kidn of retarded if you think I want BB in over MK & KOF, two games I actually play and enjoy seriously. I got beef with TWO games that aren't even released yet getting in.Hell I can even see why BB's not in, I don't really agree but I can see why. I don't blaem people for not playing CS2 when they have CSEX and twe got to play catch up, BB has always done alrihgt at Tournaments and Majors except during times when a revision is coming out soon, things slow down then pick up later.

SFxT is the only one you could have a beef with somewhat.  SCV is in the same exact position as BB.  Hell, like I said, it was the same shit at NEC.  Both games have a revision coming out in the near future, both games had said revision/sequel demoed at NEC.  SCIV had the bigger numbers.  Just facts there.

SFxT, I can understand your anger, hell I'm not too terribly happy either.  But the thing is...EVO probably only went to 6 games to support SFxT.  If it went down to 5 games and SFxT is non-existent, BB still doesn't make it in.

But you can blame people for not playing CS2 when CSEX is coming up.  You could not afford to lose numbers over something like that.  Besides, you don't lose anything from continuing to play CS2 before CSEX, it'll just keep you sharp until it drops.  I don't understand the mindset where people avoid an older version of a game before the new one drops to avoid screwing themselves over.  Okay, unless you're planning to play a completely new character in the game, or the one you do want to play is RADICALLY different than the one in the older version, there's no reason to stop playing the game you have now.  Didn't stop SC players, didn't stop AE and MvC3 players, it shouldn't have stopped you.

I just don't get the reasoning as to sit and play nothing before the next shit comes out.  Like I said, I dont' mean to be a dick, but it strikes me as a bit lazy.  I mean, I'll give you a pass for CT to CS.  You guys were already playing the new shit and you didn't want to have to go back to CT.  I just want to know what the excuse now is?  If it's legitimate, I'll let it go.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: ELTRO on January 05, 2012, 11:30:44 PM
I do like BB, although all these controversies a new installment is not far off. I think February? Usually that brings numbers for the BB community does it not? Also aren't there players the support the shit out of it already? I don't know the BB scene as well as I like to since I actually prefer this game over ssf4ae2012 and UMVC3. Definitely over sfxt.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: mightfo on January 05, 2012, 11:38:02 PM
for not playing CS2 when CSEX is coming up.  You could not afford to lose numbers over something like that.  Besides, you don't lose anything from continuing to play CS2 before CSEX, it'll just keep you sharp until it drops.  I don't understand the mindset where people avoid an older version of a game before the new one drops to avoid screwing themselves over.  Okay, unless you're planning to play a completely new character in the game, or the one you do want to play is RADICALLY different than the one in the older version, there's no reason to stop playing the game you have now.  Didn't stop SC players, didn't stop AE and MvC3 players, it shouldn't have stopped you.

you have absolutely the right attitude on this subject. it baffles me when people stop playing and wayyy overstate how big the changes are. but these players (usually) arent that serious anyway. when they are serious players..lol

I do like BB, although all these controversies a new installment is not far off. I think February? Usually that brings numbers for the BB community does it not? Also aren't there players the support the shit out of it already?

Yeah, february. Yeah, this is a common lull and rise. 2-4 months before the new release the community slows down, then heats up again. it looks like the next version hasnt even started yet and is planned to be bigger, so that should give more time for this one to stay heated up, as stupid as the process is. And of course there are players that support the shit out of it, there are those for pretty much every game, but how much people can do with a scene depends on the region. And honestly, I think this has lit a fire under the scene's ass, so it should kick up this year.

But guys, this should really, really move to a different topic or something.
Title: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Saitsuofleaves on January 05, 2012, 11:41:13 PM
Well if a lot of people had their way, there wouldn't be a single Capcom game at EVO.  But they have the biggest numbers and bring the most comp from overseas.

But yeah, SFxT is the big blight on this lineup, but who the hell knows?  Maybe Capcom will wake up and put it back to the way it was in the E3 Build (Or whatever the build was that was up to Dhalsim...I'm really bad with knowing which build is which for this game).  Unfortunately too many people are talking about the wrong problems for that game, so it's likely doomed.

On the bright side, this is probably the last EVO 3 Capcom games make it in.  I don't see both AE and SFxT making it the next year, because either SFxT will bomb (and thus it wouldn't surprise me if Capcom kept doing support for AE) or SFxT turns out surprisingly not horrible, and Capcom finally lets AE rest.  And even if both are fine, I doubt Wiz is gonna want to run 6 games again, he seemed very tentative to even do it now.

And yeah, if a Mod can move all this discussion to like a newly made thread somewhere that relates to EVO, that'd be nice.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: sibarraz on January 05, 2012, 11:57:26 PM
i am very glad that kof13 and sc5 made it in(even if sc5 isnt out yet, it seems quite solid and loved from pre-release play, and iirc sc4 had good turnouts before despite having lots of problems, sooo)
obviously i wish bb was in, but i can understand that since it seems to have had less entrants at tourneys than mk9 and such, that they'd put mk9 or whatever over it. size and effort is what it is. this seems to have lit a fire under the bb community's ass, so hopefully it will make it stronger in the long run. side tourneyyyy
also, people use the word "dead" way too liberally.

lol at sfxt being in though. i have seen virtually no hype for that game. i guess people will play it in huge numbers just because it is a capcom game, but..i dunno. Even when MVC3 and SF4 got hated on, they always had huge amounts of hype prerelease and such that sfxt just doesnt seem to have.


Saitsu is a bit right on how the BB comunity sometimes screw themselves

For example, when the whole fiasco of the type x2 being ''emulated'' with a brand new vainilla continuum shift being avaliable for everyone, the BB decided to not participate on EVO in the calamity trigger tournament because everyone was playing illegally the new version

Don't know if that was effectively like that or was just an excuse to not put CT on evo 2010, but regardless, is stupid to not play something with the excuse that a new version will come out

No, that decision was not stupid at all.  CT was a completely ass game that didn't deserve to be at EVO. Additionally, top players were playing CS at places like arcade infinity. Scene was already split, the leak just made CT completely abandoned, as it should have been. CT at EVO would have been about as hype as KOF12 being at EVO when top players were playing arcade KOF13. undesirable.

Yeah, the BB community keeps shooting itself in the foot with bad decisions consistently. It also doesn't help that their showing at EVO was lacking any sort of hype and that ASW refuses to make significantly good revisions. It's a real shame, because CT was a great start.

The fact that you call CT a "Great start" and think the revisions weren't good shows that you really don't know what you're talking about.

also, BB top 8 was hype as fuck.




in any case, congrats kof13 and sc5~

It was still stupid because you need to show the game a his first iteration even to earn some hype, vainilla SF was stupid as CT, but they still went on it and showed how the game was, even the arcade infinity excuse is not good since I doubt that all the players could play it religiously, it will be like determining to make a 1.1 Tourney just because some guys were playing it at southtown
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: mightfo on January 06, 2012, 12:08:44 AM
It was still stupid because you need to show the game a his first iteration even to earn some hype, vainilla SF was stupid as CT, but they still went on it and showed how the game was, even the arcade infinity excuse is not good since I doubt that all the players could play it religiously, it will be like determining to make a 1.1 Tourney just because some guys were playing it at southtown
It was more than just arcade infinity. It was a really obvious decision for everyone because other games would make better use of that spot(MVC2, MBAA) and the top players in Cali, EC, Texas, etc weren't going to go back to an awful version when they were playing the new one for almost 8 months. The majority of top players had moved on for a long time, the intermediate players who could play the leak did that, and those who didnt just waited. It would have been terrible, no matter what.

Vanilla sf was less inherently flawed than CT. I promise. I hate playing SF4 and I will say that.

CT was rather antihype. It was fun to play to some extent but fucking stupid and it wasnt really tournament worthy. Again, would you really use KOF12 to hype people for KOF13? Would you expect people to support a tournament if most of the top players were, at the point in time, very used to KOF13? Oh boy, watch intermediate players play a shitty game at EVO. No, the scene wasn't going to do that, MVC2 deserved that spot more, period.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: oricon on January 06, 2012, 12:22:34 AM
SF x Tekken wont bomb at all regardless of the whole gem fiasco, tournaments would just ban them out right if the gem selecting process takes too long also Seth Killian confirmed i think just recently there's a mode online without the gems mechanic. SFxTekken deserves to be at evo and it's pretty much guaranteed to have near the same amount of entrants compared AE2k12
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Saitsuofleaves on January 06, 2012, 12:30:04 AM
But I will say again, Gems and Pandora are not the problem with SFxT.  As long as people think that they're the problem, SFxT will stay as meh as it is now.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: mightfo on January 06, 2012, 12:36:57 AM
SFxTekken deserves to be at evo
citation needed
not saying the game doesnt have a chance of being good, but we dont have a lot of reason to believe it will be.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Saitsuofleaves on January 06, 2012, 12:41:01 AM
SFxTekken deserves to be at evo
citation needed
not saying the game doesnt have a chance of being good, but we dont have a lot of reason to believe it will be.

SFxT fixes two things (which they already had right at one point), it has a chance to be one of the better games in the EVO lineup.  The question is, will the stupid hivemind get their heads out of their asses long enough to see that Gems and Pandora are just distracting them from the real problem.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: MetalThrashingMadman on January 06, 2012, 01:21:00 AM
I love BB, but after going to the last evo and a local tournament recently, I'm not surpised it didn't make it. There just isn't enough people playing. It's not hard to predict both SCV and SFxT will both bring in more entrants than BB. This is especially true with SFxT as it has the advantage of appealing to 2 very large existing fanbases. The fact that these games aren't quite out yet doesn't make much of a difference in this case. The evo organizers clearly think these games will get better numbers than BB and I don't blame them.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: sibarraz on January 06, 2012, 01:26:19 AM
It was still stupid because you need to show the game a his first iteration even to earn some hype, vainilla SF was stupid as CT, but they still went on it and showed how the game was, even the arcade infinity excuse is not good since I doubt that all the players could play it religiously, it will be like determining to make a 1.1 Tourney just because some guys were playing it at southtown
It was more than just arcade infinity. It was a really obvious decision for everyone because other games would make better use of that spot(MVC2, MBAA) and the top players in Cali, EC, Texas, etc weren't going to go back to an awful version when they were playing the new one for almost 8 months. The majority of top players had moved on for a long time, the intermediate players who could play the leak did that, and those who didnt just waited. It would have been terrible, no matter what.

Vanilla sf was less inherently flawed than CT. I promise. I hate playing SF4 and I will say that.

CT was rather antihype. It was fun to play to some extent but fucking stupid and it wasnt really tournament worthy. Again, would you really use KOF12 to hype people for KOF13? Would you expect people to support a tournament if most of the top players were, at the point in time, very used to KOF13? Oh boy, watch intermediate players play a shitty game at EVO. No, the scene wasn't going to do that, MVC2 deserved that spot more, period.

That example is not fair, KOF XII was completely bad, CT even though has some ugly top tiers, it was still really playable

Hell, if the majority of the community has access to CS then the community wasn't that big to begin with it, since I doubt that the 200 players had access to it, even using the event to show fans how the game was could have been a big plus, and hype more the release of CS which would had appeared on 2 more weeks, I'm sure that some buys could have been earned
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Saitsuofleaves on January 06, 2012, 01:34:16 AM
No, trust me, it was not hard to play CS if you really wanted to.  If you're a player that had the ability to go to EVO and play BB, you probably were already playing CS.

This difference between now and then is, then, they were already playing the sequel in depth and were practicing up on it.  They had already moved on from CT and had preferred CS.  Very few would want to go back, practice a game they didn't like for the express purpose of playing it once, and then forgetting it exists again.  For all intensive purposes, the sequel was already out.  It'd be like everyone playing Ultimate MvC3 for a month and then EVO says "Oh by the way guys, you have to play Vanilla for EVO".  Yeah, no. 

Unlike now where, outside of demo opportunities, very few from what I know have their hands on Extend.  It's not like everyone's playing it and they have to go back to CS2, CS2 is what they have now.  It's what the majority is playing now.  Thus that's the game you play until the new shit comes out unless you straight don't like CS2.  You shouldn't sit on your ass saying "Well...I like CS2...but Extend is coming out in two months which makes this thing useless, time to put it away and not bother playing it with anyone until then".  Like, I don't get that.

Yet again though, I'm not part of the community, so if Zabel or someone else wants to shed light as to why BB players do this, and why it's completely justified for you guys, then please by all means, share.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Zabel on January 06, 2012, 09:02:28 PM
Most people serious into BB have CSEX already, most everyone has ikmported it and sees that it's a superior game to CS2 so we see no real reason to keep playing it, that's pretty much it. Hell alot of people that left around CS2 saw the changes in CSEX and were planning and still are planning to come back.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Saitsuofleaves on January 06, 2012, 10:00:36 PM
You know, now that I think about it, maybe a little blame could go to Aksys for not localizing their games a bit sooner.  I mean, they seem to be doing better at it than they were at the beginning with CT and such, but having such a span like this does not help matters at all.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Zabel on January 06, 2012, 10:29:03 PM
Yeah the localizing thing is a little annoying, arcade getting it before us isn't that bad but when they're such a gap between hte Japan and US release *And worse if you're EU, but that's another situation entirley*. bSo glad P4U is gonna be a simultaneous release.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Saitsuofleaves on January 06, 2012, 11:18:23 PM
So yeah, while I still disagree with not support the current game you have a bit more...Aksys should probably get the games out here a bit quicker so it's not a problem to begin with.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Ufgt on January 07, 2012, 12:41:59 AM
So, did they say if it would be PS3 or Xbox360?
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Saitsuofleaves on January 07, 2012, 01:36:50 AM
EVO is a PS3 Tourney.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: nilcam on January 07, 2012, 03:29:25 AM
All main EVO games will be run on PS3.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Killey on January 11, 2012, 06:05:33 PM
Has anyone noticed any differences in timing between the Xbox and PS3 versions?
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Kapwan on January 13, 2012, 03:23:02 AM
Has anyone noticed any differences in timing between the Xbox and PS3 versions?

There is a tiny bit more lag from the PS3 version but the difference is almost negligible.  It's like this for Street Fighter and Marvel as well though.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Killey on January 13, 2012, 04:47:58 AM
Has anyone noticed any differences in timing between the Xbox and PS3 versions?

There is a tiny bit more lag from the PS3 version but the difference is almost negligible.  It's like this for Street Fighter and Marvel as well though.

Hmmm...Marvel for PS3 was really bad though. Lots of input lag and certain stages created even more input lag.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: ShinBlanka on January 13, 2012, 03:33:02 PM
I would advise everyone that can make to evo to make it out if you want KOF13 to be apart of EVO for here on out.  Look at what happend to Blazblue this year.  While it's a great game Mr. Wizard said it wasn't in the line up this year due to it's scene not supporting it properly.  Don't be the reason your favorite games isn't in evo after this year!
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Kane317 on January 14, 2012, 02:59:00 AM
I would advise everyone that can make to evo to make it out if you want KOF13 to be apart of EVO for here on out.  Look at what happend to Blazblue this year.  While it's a great game Mr. Wizard said it wasn't in the line up this year due to it's scene not supporting it properly.  Don't be the reason your favorite games isn't in evo after this year!

^QFT
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: GO4PRO on January 16, 2012, 05:54:44 PM
I would advise everyone that can make to evo to make it out if you want KOF13 to be apart of EVO for here on out.  Look at what happend to Blazblue this year.  While it's a great game Mr. Wizard said it wasn't in the line up this year due to it's scene not supporting it properly.  Don't be the reason your favorite games isn't in evo after this year!
If only I had like $1000 saved up  :(
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Killey on January 16, 2012, 07:23:41 PM
I would advise everyone that can make to evo to make it out if you want KOF13 to be apart of EVO for here on out.  Look at what happend to Blazblue this year.  While it's a great game Mr. Wizard said it wasn't in the line up this year due to it's scene not supporting it properly.  Don't be the reason your favorite games isn't in evo after this year!
If only I had like $1000 saved up  :(

You have until July to save up. Get cracking. :p
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: davidkong07 on January 19, 2012, 10:32:10 PM
if you aren't going to evo then you are FUCKING UP.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Glenburg89 on January 20, 2012, 03:22:08 AM
This is gonna be such a hype year for KOF ,period!
EVO already has the numbers and international competition, so we'll have a great turnout for sure.
I'm also interested to see how popular the game will be after EVO.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: dicky on January 24, 2012, 12:23:51 AM
I would advise everyone that can make to evo to make it out if you want KOF13 to be apart of EVO for here on out.  Look at what happend to Blazblue this year.  While it's a great game Mr. Wizard said it wasn't in the line up this year due to it's scene not supporting it properly.  Don't be the reason your favorite games isn't in evo after this year!
If only I had like $1000 saved up  :(
Do whatever you can! Sell a kidney! Start hooking! Ask your parents? hahaha
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Saitsuofleaves on January 24, 2012, 12:28:41 AM
if you aren't going to evo then you are FUCKING UP.

Or you have no money or previous obligations.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Killey on April 26, 2012, 10:24:07 PM
So who here registered for Evo and is confirmed going?

I registered for Evo on Tuesday so just working out flight details and will be ready to get in there.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Hokuto-Youssef on May 17, 2012, 05:14:29 PM
Hi Everyone!
We'll have a tournament June 23rd in Paris, and the winner will earn a Flight Ticket to Evo.
As soon as we'll have a news in English, It would be really kind if we can have a news on the main page!
For now, the news is only in french here: http://maxmode.net/81-news/83-road-to-las-vega-2012 (http://maxmode.net/81-news/83-road-to-las-vega-2012)
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: souf on June 19, 2012, 05:38:07 AM
is anybody renting a hotel room thats big enough for one more person to help make it cheaper for everyone?

i know its coming down to last minute but i just found out this morning that im going to EVO so im scrambling for solutions here.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: LazieFreddy on June 23, 2012, 08:21:35 PM
So who here registered for Evo and is confirmed going?


The real question is who is NOT going?     ;)
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: solidshark on June 23, 2012, 09:59:09 PM
So who here registered for Evo and is confirmed going?


The real question is who is NOT going?     ;)

File me under the probably long list of "wish I was going, but can't." Want it to be big enough so a future EVO I can go to will still have it.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Sharnt on June 25, 2012, 07:10:42 PM
Thegod tournament (http://fr.twitch.tv/yamato_fr/b/322557562) has come to his end and it's Frionel who might (still visa issue :k) represent France Marroco at this event (And some over people but I don't have an accurate list for KOF).
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: Emperor Paine on June 27, 2012, 03:35:40 AM
Yo good luck to everyone going. I'll see ya'll there since EVO happens where I live.
Both of my tourney's are early morning so the night shall be filled with drinks.
Anyone down?
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: MetalThrashingMadman on July 04, 2012, 01:05:13 AM
^Dude! We're in the same pool. Too bad it looks like we won't face each other unless we both make it to the end of our pool though. See you there.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: solidshark on July 06, 2012, 06:50:39 AM
Good luck to you all @ EVO. Play well for the guys who wish they (we) could've come.
Title: Re: EVO 2012 discussion
Post by: solidshark on July 10, 2012, 03:33:05 AM
What an EVO. According to most, Top 8 for EVO2k12 was best in show. 90k+ viewers. Congrats to all the SoCal players, CafeId players, Hellpockets for solid commentary, all the fighters and viewers for coming in. There was a winner and a loser, but I think we all won today.