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King of Fighters XIV => Character Discussion => Ryo Sakazaki => Topic started by: Mr.Minionman on August 05, 2016, 04:51:14 AM

Title: Ryo Sakazaki
Post by: Mr.Minionman on August 05, 2016, 04:51:14 AM
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Notation
;a = Light Punch
;b = Light Kick
;c = Strong Punch
;d = Strong Kick

(*) = EX OK
(!) = MAX OK

Throws
Kyokugenryu Sanren Geki - (close) ;bk/ ;fd + ;c
Tomoe Nage - (close) ;bk/ ;fd + ;d

Command Normals
Hyouchuu Wari - ;fd + ;a
Jyoudan Uke - ;fd + ;b
Gedan Uke - ;df + ;b

Special Moves
Kohou - ;dp + ;a/ ;c (*)
Ko-Ou Ken - ;qcf +  ;a/ ;c (*)
Hien Shippuu Kyaku - ;hcb + ;b/ ;d (*)
Zanrestuken - ;fd ;bk ;fd + ;a/ ;c (*)

Super Special Moves
Haoh Shoukou Ken -  ;fd ;hcf + ;a/ ;c (!)
Ryuuko Ranbu - ;qcf ;hcb + ;a/ ;c (!)

Climax Super Special Move
Shin • Tenchi Haoh Ken - ;qcf ;qcf + ;a ;c
Title: Re: Ryo Sakazaki
Post by: Mr.Minionman on August 24, 2016, 11:51:14 PM
His new st. D is really good. I'll miss having one that you could just cancel whenever wherever though. He's got to worry about close/far like everyone else now
Title: Re: Ryo Sakazaki
Post by: EXWildWolf on September 11, 2016, 02:59:46 AM
His new st. D is really good. I'll miss having one that you could just cancel whenever wherever though. He's got to worry about close/far like everyone else now

I wouldn't say he has to worry too much. His Cr.C is a really good counterpoke, and you have days to hit confirm it
Title: Re: Ryo Sakazaki
Post by: Vokkan on September 19, 2016, 09:18:57 PM
I'm having a hard time adjusting to him in this game, and starting to question if it's even worth it...

qcf+A has much shorter range which makes it only reliable from deep jump-ins.
cr.C is unsafe even on hit, so your only option is to qcf+A and pray it won't whiff (or max range qcf+C and pray it won't get punished).
Sweep into fireball is usually suicide no matter what version you go for, since one whiffs and one's punishable.
Sweep into low parry is still unsafe.
No more late canceling overheads?
Parries will continue to be worse than just DP:ing until you can cancel into normals, run or MAX activation.
And Zanretsuken is even worse than ever...
Title: Re: Ryo Sakazaki
Post by: KrsJin on September 19, 2016, 11:50:15 PM
^You could parry cancel the down C to make it safe-ish right?

And can you do Max mode bypass after a successful parry? Sorry can't test this stuff right now.
Title: Re: Ryo Sakazaki
Post by: Vokkan on September 20, 2016, 12:45:13 AM
All parry cancel shenanigans (with the exception of CD I assume) are jab punishable if done point blank, but if done after a jump-in those shouldn't reach, and you could even get a s.C whiffpunish if they try.

But in general when blocking Ryo's heavy attacks up close you should just wait a split second then press jab. You probably wont get that punish, but you won't get frametrapped by a qcf+C either, and you'll pretty much counterhit anything Ryo tries afterwards.

(Also, no max mode bypass after parry)
Title: Re: Ryo Sakazaki
Post by: Krusan on September 27, 2016, 06:01:46 PM
All of Ryo´s win quotes if anyone is interested.
Please, relocate the post if this is not the right topic
English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmsp59T0PR8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmsp59T0PR8)
Spanish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIz5NZKaZAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIz5NZKaZAM)
Title: Re: Ryo Sakazaki
Post by: Amedø310 on November 06, 2016, 06:09:38 AM
Ryo's Frame Data: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2WAxkcvfTKdZGRxWm94cW5aMWs

This is where all the frame data that I have done so far will be located in jpeg format: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2WAxkcvfTKdb3J2WXJ2djJGYWs

Microsoft Word documents will be here for download: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2WAxkcvfTKdbTF5akxrV1RjNHc
Title: Re: Ryo Sakazaki
Post by: Vokkan on January 08, 2017, 09:16:12 PM
Ryo's combo dmg has seen some breakthroughs recently:

cl.C, f+A, MAX, cl.D, qcf+AC, hcb+BD, dp+A, cr.C, df+B (379 + reset) 1 bar, anywhere
cl.C, f+A, MAX, cl.D, qcf+AC, hcb+BD, dp+C xx EX Ranbu (576) 3 bar in 1st pos, 2 bar in 2nd*/3rd pos, anywhere

cl.C, f+A, MAX, cl.D, qcf+AC, hcb+D!, dp+A, cr.C, df+B (407 + reset) 1 bar, corner
cl.C, f+A, MAX, cl.D, qcf+AC, hcb+D!, dp+A xx EX Ranbu (601) 2 bar, corner