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A rant

Started by LouisCipher, September 06, 2011, 10:51:16 PM

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Xxenace

so i wonder what exactly went wrong up at capcom i mean gee gee pee oh was one of this games selling points so why is it still assbutt

LouisCipher

I'm going to write to Iron Galaxies directly. I get the feeling that (A) this was rushed as fuck and they decided to patch it with every DLC release depending on sales or (B) colossal misjudgments were made.
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Xxenace

well tell me how that goes

LouisCipher

#18
I said it before in the chat but I'll say it again that playing a Yellow ping connection is like fucking without a condom. Sometimes you're okay and it works out, and sometimes... not so much.

This is the most accurate description of Yellow Ping.
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Xxenace


LouisCipher

#20
I got a reply from Iron Galaxy:

QuoteI'm on PSN and the current state of the game online is pathetic guys.

Improvements that should be made:

Why not a list of players showing ping (an actual number instead of a symbol) and their respective countries and being able to challenge them? This is something FREE services like GGPO and Supercade already have. HDR handled this better. The matchmaking is complete garbage because of this.
>>> Not many console games show a ping number as the vast majority of users have no idea what it means (given the lack of PC experience).  I don't suspect that will make you feel any better but that's why it's the way it is.
Allowing Gill to be playable online. This character should not have been made available at all online in any way shape or form. Because, many, many times the Host fails to ban the character and one dude picks him and the room empties out of disgust. At the very least he should be banned by default and the host has to manually un-ban him.
>>> He is banned in ranked, and in Player match he can be banned by the host so this seemed like a good compromise for the people that do want to use him when they are just goofing around with friends.
Why not restrict players with bad ping from entering lobbies? Again, the Host will refuse to remove a player with Red ping in a room filled with Yellow ping players.
>>> Not allowed to do this on XBLA/PSN
No Rematch option in Ranked? No best 2 out of 3 in Ranked? Why?
>>> We were afraid people could game the matchmaking system and artificially inflate their wins, thus ruining the leaderboards.  Say for example you and a friend start matchmaking at the exact same time there's a pretty good chance you will end up in a ranked match together.  If you did this on purpose and just rematched forever you could use this to boost.  Our upcoming patch hopefully fixes the delay in starting a ranked match, so hopefully it won't be as painful to jump in one quickly and the need for rematch will be taken down a few notches.
Handling of lag: How is possible that on GGPO one could play the Street Fighter Alpha series, the KOF’s, Last Blade 2, the Samurai Shodown’s, Super Turbo, and etc with other people all over the world at pings up to 200 and it’s very playable. Very few dropped inputs. Almost exactly like offline play. And yet 3SOE plays like garbage with people in the same country? This makes no sense whatsoever. Making the game playable with people in Japan is one thing, but within the same country? What gives?
>>> We don't have dropped inputs online unless the game gets rolled back, which is the same as regular GGPO.  You might want to set your GGPO Delay setting to be a bit larger and see if this fixes the problem.
The Trials are complete garbage. At best 1-2 Trials are something that’s practical. The rest are pointless and you will never use them in-game. I was under the impression that Trials were supposed to help new players to learn practical combos? If so than what’s the point of including almost entirely impractical combos?
>>> Sorry you don't like them
Can’t re-size the screen properly on CRTV’s. I tried and at best the lower left and top right corners of the screen are cut off with space on the far right.
>>> Every TV is different, and it's impossible to test with every kind.  What brand/model is your TV?
Please fix the game. I'm sure these fixes couldn't be that costly.
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Xxenace

how professional so i guess this means they know the game is still ass but refuse to fix it?

IceWater

The color ping reasoning is completely retarded & the game not fitting on crts isn't a rare problem at all. It happens on mine and I've seen multiple people saying it happens on theirs too.

I wouldn't expect them to fix anything that doesn't completely ruin the game after this point since the developers have to pay sony/microsoft for every patch after the first one. HD remix still has problems but it just got abandoned after its 1st patch and I imagine the same thing will happen here.
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LouisCipher

I did write them back pointing out that HDR and MVC2 had ping numbers, not to mention every modern FPS even on consoles uses a number representing Ping. I rebuffed a lot of other things too.
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DarKaoZ

There is no excuse from them to not have both, I mean they have a lot of space besides the PING "BOX".

Also I just don't get why they can't have QUICK RANK MATCHES and CUSTOM RANK MATCHES? Is it that difficulty to have both options? I wonder.

LouisCipher

Got another reply, it's a bit generic but who knows...

QuoteHey thanks for the constructive comments again.  This is the kind of feedback we take seriously and it will get factored into things we do with future Title Updates/Games.

I can't guarantee anything like #'s for pings or stuff like that, but I will make sure this info gets forwarded onto Capcom and they understand your point of view.

-Dave
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sibarraz

I hadn't played the game for 2 weeks thanks to exam, how has been your experience lous? For better or for worse, after some weeks I doubt that all the players are still playing it, or maybe the gave an update to the netcode


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LouisCipher

As I said previously if you find someone with a good connection and they're a good player to boot, it's a good experience, better than GGPO by a bit. But when it lags... holy shit. I'd say the experience is closer to Supercade/2DF only more retarded. I can't count how many times I've knocked them down, I'm well within range to Powerbomb them without the threat of them grabbing me, but no!  They grab me anyway or mash Jab and that somehow beats Command Grabs online.
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LouisCipher

#28
Online still sucks dick. PSN is almost a wasteland now. Plenty, and I mean plenty of Ken's using SA1 and Ryu's using SA2. It's sad.

I'm half-tempted to pick up an Xbox because I keep hearing the online is better and there's more Green Connections. But who knows. It's either because PSN sucks or there's simply more people on XBLA. I think it may be the later. I know there's a lot of 360 fanboys on SRK that take every opportunity they can to bash the PS3.
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nilcam

From my experience, the online on 360 and PS3 is pretty close. This generation, Capcom games tend to run better on 360 hardware, for some reason. Maybe that's why there are more 3S players on 360. I sold my 360 today because I was tired of it telling me my router was restricting my LIVE experience and recommending I use the wireless connection instead. My PS3 never gives me any problems playing online.

With the game using GGPO, the connection should be peer-to-peer so the service should have little impact on the experience.