Duo wiki building thread

[nilcam]

http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Duo_Lon_(XIII)

Submissions, questions, comments and feedback should be posted here.

[Kane317]

Duo Lon
Minor changes:
NeoMax-448 (up from 400)
f B-30 (up from 20)
qcb P-60 (up from 50)
Ex Rekkas (60, 40, 50) {up from (60, 30, 40)}
f AC 40x2 (up from 30x2)

No stock No drive
d.A x2, Rekkas x3, qcf B, s.C: 184
s.D, f.A, Rekkas x3, qcf B, s.C: 244

1 stock No drive
f.A, f.B, DM - 248
s.D, f.A, f.B, DM: 305
d.B x2, d.A, f.A, f.B, DM - 288
f.B, DM - 220
d.A x2, f.A, f.B, DM: 269
d.A x2, Ex Rekkas x2, qcb A, Rekkas x3, qcf B, s.C: 295
-s.D, f.AC, qcb A, s.A, Rekkas x3, qcf B, s.C: 326
-s.D, f.A, Ex Rekkas x2, qcb A, s.A, Rekkas x3, qcf B, s.C: 364
(corner): s.D, f.A, Ex Rekkas x2, qcb A, s.C, f A, Rekkas x3, qcf B, s.C - 418 (385~398 w/out f A)

2 stocks No drive
f.A, f.B, Ex DM: 350
s.D, f.A, f.B, Ex DM: 408
d.B x2, d.A, f.A, f.B, Ex DM: 393
s.D, f.A Ex Rekkas->d.A, f.AC, f.A, Rekkas x3, s.C - 408 2 stocks
s.D, f.A, Ex Rekkas, s.A, f.A, f.B, DM - 429
s.D, f.A, Rekkas x3, qcf B, Ex DM - 447
s.D, f AC, s.D, f A, Ex Rekkas x2, qcb A, s.D, f.A, Rekkas x3, qcf B, s.C - 479
(corner): s.D, f.A, Ex Rekkas x2, qcb A, s.C, Ex Rekkas x2, qcb A, s.C, Rekkas x3, qcf B, s.C - 506 (540 with j.D)

1 stock 1 drive
s.D, f.A, Rekkas x3, [SC], DM - 342
s.D, f.A, Rekkas x2, [DC] f.A, f.B, DM - 354
s.D, f.A, Rekkas x2, [DC], Ex Rekkas x2, qcb A,, d.A, Rekkas x3, qcf B, s.C -381
s.D, f.A, Rekkas x2, [DC] f.AC, s.D, f.A, Rekkas x3, qcf B, s.C - 382 (400 if you do qcb A, s.C, f.A)
s.D, f.A, Ex Rekkas x2, qcb A, d.A, Rekkas x2, [DC] f.A, Rekkas x3, qcf B, s.C - 403

2 stocks 1 drive
s.D, f.A, Rekkas x3, [DC] Ex Rekkas (2nd whiffs), DM: 409
s.D, f.A Rekkas, [SC] Ex dm, 447
s.D, f.A, Rekkas x2, [DC] f.AC, qcb A, s.C, Ex Rekkas x2, qcb A, s.C, Rekkas x3, qcf B, s.C - 479

[Kane317]

Ok I posted it all on to the wiki, I just need to clean it up a bit and update the strategy section and he'll be good to go for now.

[desmond_kof]

Hey Kane, I did some light rearranging to his page, I just put the metadata near the videos. And I also added an image a new member from the facebook group submitted which shows his jump heights. Tell me if you think its useful or not. http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Duo_Lon_(XIII)#Dou_Lon.27s_Jumps

[Kane317]

Hey Kane, I did some light rearranging to his page, I just put the metadata near the videos. And I also added an image a new member from the facebook group submitted which shows his jump heights. Tell me if you think its useful or not. http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Duo_Lon_(XIII)#Dou_Lon.27s_Jumps

Yeah it'll help but the only concern I have is that it makes the other pages incomplete. =(

On a separate note, how do I add give credit to the Japanese page?

[desmond_kof]

Hey Kane, I did some light rearranging to his page, I just put the metadata near the videos. And I also added an image a new member from the facebook group submitted which shows his jump heights. Tell me if you think its useful or not. http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Duo_Lon_(XIII)#Dou_Lon.27s_Jumps

Yeah it'll help but the only concern I have is that it makes the other pages incomplete. =(

On a separate note, how do I add give credit to the Japanese page?

Incomplete in which way? More are on the way.

Here is Yuri's: http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Yuri_Sakazaki_%28XIII%29#Yuri.27s_Jumps

And Raiden's: http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Raiden_%28XIII%29#Raiden.27s_Jumps

In the contributors section just hyperlink keykakko's profile:

[http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4128 machina]

then in another hyper link add section where we have the frame table up:

[http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Duo_Lon_(XIII)#Move_Metadata]

[Kane317]

Nice.

I gotta start updating the wikis again.  

[Kane317]

Updated some the Notes section so please take a look at it and lemme know if there's any corrections needed.

I'll add descriptions to the special next.

[t3h mAsTarOth...!]

Here are some Duo stuff I've trying out to see maximum potential for his damage... Mainly HD combos... Also some corner specific combos...

4 meters HD - j.D, s.C, HD, s.C, f+A, (qcf+C, qcf+C, DC, f+A)x5, EX DM, Neomax = 873 dmg

Corner Specific - (Also possible mid-screen but does less damage and done a little differently)

1 meters - j.D, s.C, f+A, qcf+AC, qcf+C, qcb+A, s.C, (qcf+C)x3, qcf+B, s.C = 441 dmg

2 meters - j.D, s.C, f+A, qcf+AC, qcf+C, qcb+A, s.C, qcf+AC, qcf+C, qcb+A, s.C, (qcf+C)x3, qcf+B, s.C = 532 dmg

3 meters - j.D, s.C, f+A, qcf+AC, qcf+C, qcb+A, s.C, (qcf+C)x3, qcf+B, EX DM = 616 dmg

3 meters HD - j.D, s.C, f+A, qcf+AC, qcf+C, qcb+A, s.C, HD, s.C, f+A, (qcf+C, qcf+C, DC, f+A)x6, (qcf+C)x3, qcf+B, EX DM= 792 dmg

5 meters HD - j.D, s.C, f+A, qcf+AC, qcf+C, qcb+A, s.C, HD, s.C, f+A, (qcf+C, qcf+C, DC, f+A)x5, EX DM, Neomax = 976 dmg

[Crimson_King15]

I didn't see in the wiki that duo lon's level 1 super is fully projectile invinc from start up until he hits recovery frames.

[Kane317]

I didn't see in the wiki that duo lon's level 1 super is fully projectile invinc from start up until he hits recovery frames.

It's on the last line of the note section I just posted.

[Sir Octopus (Saiki)]

After DM or EX DM. Before the oponent lands or any situation whereas s.CD would cross the oponent.

Do CD but do not intend to rekka after it. Instead. Let it hit the oponent with the raw CD.

• This will allow for a reversal not to cause a counter hit.
• It will allow for a CD cross up hit, or if you delay it just a couple of frames it will hit in front of the oponent.
  Some reversals like Ioris EX DP will do only 1 hit and continue away from you and leave the oponent opened for a full punish
• If, they reversal and you do get the counter hit. You can: Do another DM or EX DM and be back at the exact same position. If no DM avaiable you can do f.A, hcf.b or D. Depending on which side of the oponent you want to end up on
• You can do f.AC so as the 2nd hit brings the oponent back to you, allowing another CD cross up leaving you at the exact same position
• Will reduce the possibility of a full reversal punish

[Kane317]

Added.  Thanks for your contribution as always!

[Sir Octopus (Saiki)]

Just glad to see the information to be available for everybody to read.

[Crimson_King15]

It should be noted that f+bd not only pops up the opponent it also extends out the ground further than F+b making it a viable AA.

Also it should be noted that f+b is super cancelable. That is huge if you punish a fireball with f+b you can cancel into super and pile on the damage also since the super is projectile duo will just slide on by the fireball.