Tier lists and Character Discussion Thread

[Jon Slayton]

I actually agree with Kane about Duo Lon. His mixup is mostly transparent outside of CD > Rekka cross up on wakeup, but that can be avoided by simply rolling when you see the CD. Outside of that, all of his mixups are simple things that almost all characters have... staggered jabs and throws. His damage off 2 meters isn't bad, but his big problem is his neutral game not being particularly damaging and him dying HARD on wakeup to a lot of characters, so if you slip up and eat a j.CD or something, he really has to struggle to get his space and get momentum in his favor again.

He's pretty good at lame out and he has the best crouching jab in the game but I think that's really where his strengths end.

[Ky0]

well...
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/may/07/eventhubs-community-tiers-poll-king-fighters-13-part-2

[LouisCipher]

Oh god Eventhubs...

[Running Wild]

Eventhubs should just go back to covering only Capcom games because they obviously don't know anything else lol.

[Saitsuofleaves]

Eventhubs should just go back to covering only Capcom games because they obviously don't know anything else lol.

They don't know Capcom games either, so what's your point?

[Killey]

Eventhubs should just go back to covering only Capcom games because they obviously don't know anything else lol.

Regardless of the quality of the content from Eventhubs it's still one of the bigger Fighting Game websites for North America. It's better that non-Capcom fighting games gets as much exposure as possible so that the player base can grow. Considering the growing dissatisfaction with Capcom fighters a little bit of exposure on sites like eventhubs can go a long way.

[Running Wild]

The only thing big about Event Thubs is their front page, which is hijacked from other websites like SRK and iPlaywinner (my favorite). Their guides are pretty lacking compared to the others.

It's nice they opened up the site to non-Capcom fighting games though, but they need to do something more and show more interest in the games they are covering besides Capcom.

[BioBooster]

Interesting, 6/23 3pm JST: Shinjuku Playland Carnival - First ever Climax ratio match.
http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/53747/1330956358/60

Team total max 6:

5 　Karate
4 　Kyo, EX Iori
3 　Saiki, Benimaru,  Hwa, Shen,  Iori
2 　 K`, Kula, Duolon, EX Kyo, Leona, Andy, King, Kensou, Ryo, Robert
1 　 Ash, Elizabeth, Billy, Daimon, Joe, Takuma, Mature, Vice, Kim, Yuri, Raiden, Ralf, Clark, Mai, Chin
0 　Athena, Terry, Maxima

※Some adjustments made based on frequency of use


...Karate players will be forced to have an Athena/Terry/Maxima - interesting.
Looks like I would be able to run my regular teams.

Hopefully there will be a stream.

[Kane317]

I updated the front page with the link of tier charts: http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/bbs/messages/13335.shtml#

[Hyun Sai]

So this is the official Japanese tiers list, heeh ?

I'm not really surprised by the ratio (especially for Mr Karate lol).

This tournament should be interesting.

[Terrastorm]

So this is the official Japanese tiers list, heeh ?

I'm not really surprised by the ratio (especially for Mr Karate lol).

This tournament should be interesting.

No, it's done by like one arcade, lol.

[marchefelix]

Kyo over EX Kyo?! I thought EX Kyo was tearing assholes left and right!

[DarKaoZ]

Kyo over EX Kyo?! I thought EX Kyo was tearing assholes left and right!

I think Kyo has way more tools to do damage than EX Kyo.

[BioBooster]

^Yeah def agree with that. Some feel that raw dmg output is higher with EX Kyo (which I don't really agree with), but normal Kyo definitely has more opportunities to do damage.

[bigvador]

ralf needs more love everybody dam near put him dead last (except for 1 person)