Goro Daimon (Arcade Version)

[Ash]

damn, would have been soo sexy if you could do it not being in the corner. like ex throw,  , roll,  ,  or some shit.

Actually now that I think about it, it might work because his qcb+K is cancellable. We'd have to test it out.

[Kane317]

damn, would have been soo sexy if you could do it not being in the corner. like ex throw,   , roll,   ,   or some shit.

Tried that when I first tried using him months ago, doesn't work.  The hcf+A will miss.  

Actually now that I think about it, it might work because his qcb+K is cancellable. We'd have to test it out.

Specifically his qcb+B only cancels.

[MUSOLINI]

ive seen him juggle with ex  after that same combo in the corner.so maybe when your not in a corner it might catch them as well?

[krazykone123]

No Gauge
- st.C, df+C, qcb+K, hcb f+P
- j.C, st.B, dp+K

1 Gauge
- (cross-up) j.B, st.Ax2, st.B, hcb f+AC

Corner
- (cross-up) j.B, st.Ax2, st.B, hcb f+AC, df+C, hcf+A

[MUSOLINI]

Corner
- (cross-up) j.B, st.Ax2, st.B, hcb f+AC, df+C, hcf+A

would his neomax work as an otg after this combo.

[Aenthin]

His Neomax is now a counter

[Rex Dart]

I used to think Goro was near the bottom of the game's tier list. Taking away the auto-guard on his hcf+P moves seems almost unfair. Especially when SNK was so generous to Maxima. Also, his drive cancel, super cancel and HD combos are generally pointless, except for allowing him to combo into his NM.

But his NM is just too awesome. Is its startup instant? It seems like it. And it's so hard to notice until it's too late. It's enough to keep Goro terrifying.

The best way to play him seems to be to keep 3 gauges and 100% drive ready at all times. Just sit on it. If your opponent isn't paying attention, you can pretty easily counter any jump in on reaction. Once your opponent is afraid of your NM (as they should be), you need to just pick them apart with Goro's excellent normals, earthquake and, of course, his normal grabs.

To me, this seems like the most threatening kind of Goro.

[MUSOLINI]

agreed, goro shouldn't rely on dc but dm bars. i think hed make a great 2nd or 3rd char.

[JTSNOW6]

Would anyone care to put the videos where Goro was beasting from the video thread up here??  I didn't go through all the vids to find it

[SAB-CA]

There's some Decent Goro play in this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLuH62n-gko

But as of the 3rd battle, the Goro player joins the K' side

This vid brought up a question: Can Goro stikk land hcf after a strong knockdown in this game? This guy never seems to attempt it after either a jumping CD, or a sweep, and if it DOES still work, he misses a lot of damage due to not using it...

[Kane317]

There's some Decent Goro play in this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLuH62n-gko

But as of the 3rd battle, the Goro player joins the K' side

This vid brought up a question: Can Goro still land hcf after a strong knockdown in this game? This guy never seems to attempt it after either a jumping CD, or a sweep, and if it DOES still work, he misses a lot of damage due to not using it...

Yes you can hcf+C OTG after knockdown like j.CD, sweep etc...  After a sweep is risky as they can tech roll and punished your now whiffed hcf+C instead.

[MUSOLINI]

His Neomax is now a counter

so its a counter that hits them even if they dont attack you? something like lizzys NM.

[Rex Dart]

His Neomax is now a counter

so its a counter that hits them even if they dont attack you? something like lizzys NM.

Only when Max Canceled. Just like in XI, comboing into a counter DM from another DM changes the moves' properties.

[SAB-CA]

Yes you can hcf+C OTG after knockdown like j.CD, sweep etc...  After a sweep is risky as they can tech roll and punished your now whiffed hcf+C instead.

-nod- Good point on the Tech roll, I guess that just gives a 50/50 mixup between waiting for the roll for another throw, or going directly onto the OTG throw, off the sweep. And I believe it was the Tech Refs that showed him able to combo Osotogari (DP throw), DC into Kirikabugaeshi (hcf ).

I forget it the Overhead EX Jiraishin produces untechable knockdown or not (since noone has used it since the loss of the EX Bug...), but I'd assume he can land Kirakabugeshi after that, as well. Just seems like so much that we DON'T get to see him do, like Rex Dart's mention of his incredibly potent counter.

so its a counter that hits them even if they dont attack you? something like lizzys NM.

Only when Max Canceled. Just like in XI, comboing into a counter DM from another DM changes the moves' properties.

Really wish Capcom would have adapted this ideal, too. It's great to have a counter work offensively (When comboed into) and defensively (on it's own). I really enjoyed doing this with Kasumi in XI, and every time I'd see Fei Long or Cammy loose the ability to combo into Ultra with their U2's, it'd make me enjoy SNK's style of counters SDM / LDM / NM that much more...

I've never really been a Goro player, but the lack of seeing people take full advantage of him does make me wanna see how he feels in XIII. And with the lack of Shermie and B.Mary, I wouldn't mind having another grappler to compliment Maxima and Vice...

[MUSOLINI]

you know what sucks about cammy and feis counters? level 3 focus and moves that have armour breaking properties like a tatsu will break that fucking counter. now THAT sucks way more ass than anything else ive seen in sf counter moves. also dying with dudley when you do get the counter or ex counter sucks too.