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The King of Fighters XIII General Discussion Thread

Started by krazykone123, July 28, 2010, 06:19:54 AM

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Kane317

Quote from: LouisCipher on August 18, 2010, 08:28:29 AM
May be a dumb question but I thought I'd just throw it out there. Can meaties interrupt moves on wakeup? I'd assume it's like 3rd Strike in that meaties interrupt things like SRK on wakeup, but they can't interrupt EX moves.

I think it's returned to where DPs are invincible again, so no I don't think meaties will interrupt moves.

LouisCipher

Damn, I was kinda' hoping you could as I never liked ST tactics and SF4 just...yeah. Bottom line is invincible SRK's suck.
Team: Billy, Clark, Hwa.

MUSOLINI

no you suck, dont you know how to defend? just press db or b, it aint that fucking hard. this is how good kofs work. i really think you gotta do something about your skill level if you think invincible dp's suck, seriously. i knew most US members sucked in kof, but your making it worse than it is.
In the end, there can only be XIII.

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Still mo sweet Chariots, keep on swingin'!

LouisCipher

Why so angry dude? Of course I can defend, but if the player is very predictable, I like to be able to interrupt their wakeup attacks. I don't see what's wrong with that philosophy.  Meaties could interrupt moves on wakeup in 2K2, I don't know about 98 though. So I think my question was pretty legit.
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MUSOLINI

why would you want to interrupt their wakeup attack when you could block it and do 50% damage with little to no hd or dm bars? even more with bars. i just dont get it. nobody ever tried to meaty a downed terry in 97 or 98 cause of his rising tace. its part of the character specific strategy. you could do meaties on a downed duo long if he has no meter.

also im not mad, i dont get why your complaining about something that has been in kof for over decades. this isnt the first kof with invicible dp's. and i actually like this, as well as most other kof players. we dont wanna get hit out of our rising tacos, we taco through your invincible moves.
In the end, there can only be XIII.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p0XsEizwHA

Still mo sweet Chariots, keep on swingin'!

Aion

Quote from: LouisCipher on August 18, 2010, 06:59:46 PM
Why so angry dude? Of course I can defend, but if the player is very predictable, I like to be able to interrupt their wakeup attacks. I don't see what's wrong with that philosophy.  Meaties could interrupt moves on wakeup in 2K2, I don't know about 98 though. So I think my question was pretty legit.

So you want risk free oki?

Also, if the player is very predictable...then that's all the more reason to block, since you know the DP is coming right?

Kane317

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LouisCipher

Quote from: Aion on August 18, 2010, 07:30:45 PM

So you want risk free oki?

Also, if the player is very predictable...then that's all the more reason to block, since you know the DP is coming right?

How is it risk free dude? He could block my meaty and punish me, so what is the point you're trying to make?

It always amuses me how pissy fighting game players get over minor things like this.
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venusandeve

if his in the middle of a DP then he can't block the meaty. it's fine like it is.
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Ash

If he blocks your meaty is that like a cock block?

What kind of meaty attack could you use that is punishable? Also if you're using a punishable meaty attack to counter a dp, then you'd probably be best off blocking the dp and go for a full combo.

I do know some j.CDs can interrupt some non-EX dp's if done at the right distance.

Rukawa

#265
Quote from: LouisCipher on August 18, 2010, 11:22:18 PM

How is it risk free dude? He could block my meaty and punish me, so what is the point you're trying to make?

It always amuses me how pissy fighting game players get over minor things like this.

don't take it personally

if anything meaty attacks is a safer way to keep your offense

I'm glad invinsible dps are back, is something kof needs




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LouisCipher

Quote from: Ash on August 19, 2010, 02:51:14 AM
If he blocks your meaty is that like a cock block?

What kind of meaty attack could you use that is punishable? Also if you're using a punishable meaty attack to counter a dp, then you'd probably be best off blocking the dp and go for a full combo.


And that would depend on the character and on the situation. I'm not going to fucking argue this all fucking day. You like invincible SRK's? Fine. Let's talk about something else like strategies, what (if anything) will be done for the home port, the size of Kula's tits, and whatever. Move the fuck on.
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Ash

I was actually asking what kind of move you would be using, I wasn't being sarcastic. If you'd give an example then we could go more into depth on usefulness. I never said I like invincible DPs by the way. In fact I like the way it is now where certain positions/angled attacks can hit/trade against a non-EX dp, where as an EX one which requires 1 power gauge is invincible.

Theory and generalization of moves is not the way to discuss things. Give an example and we can expand on it. I'll start it off with a couple:

I noticed K', as well as a few other characters, can j.CD and hit at the tip against a dp and trade/beat wake up DPs such as Andy, with the j.CD doing more damage (worth it, not punishable).

Against K', his dp+A can be beaten/trade by a lot of deep j.C's such as Robert, Kula. His dp+C will beat it, but has slightly longer start up. This means if someone does a really deep j.C against his dp+C, they will land on the ground and have time to block it. I believe Terry's d,u+P is similar.

Also I've noticed fireballs will beat some dp's and will go through others. You can verify this in some of the technical reference vids. And as I've said before each dp is different some have more/less invincibilty.

THE ANSWER

Quote from: LouisCipher on August 19, 2010, 04:36:16 AM
Quote from: Ash on August 19, 2010, 02:51:14 AM
If he blocks your meaty is that like a cock block?

What kind of meaty attack could you use that is punishable? Also if you're using a punishable meaty attack to counter a dp, then you'd probably be best off blocking the dp and go for a full combo.


And that would depend on the character and on the situation. I'm not going to fucking argue this all fucking day. You like invincible SRK's? Fine. Let's talk about something else like strategies, what (if anything) will be done for the home port, the size of Kula's tits, and whatever. Move the fuck on.

Seriously don't bother with Ash his a noob, he has no idea of what his talking about. He is always asking me how to cancel K's DP+A into qcf+A. I guess I'll tell him in the technical thread.
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LouisCipher

I'll keep that in mind. Reading his post just gave me a headache (I'm not kidding) and I just had a flashback to the head exploding scene in Scanners.
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