The King of Fighters XIII General Discussion Thread

[Zabel]

above average NeoMax all push him to the top tier category

This is one thing I've been curious about, how useful is his NM? In a few vids I've seen it's beaten some ridiculous stuff, looks like it's death on whiff though due to the long recovery more so than any other NM.

[Jammerlich]

Speaking of which. Is it just priority and damage that causes his ranking to fluctuate? I mean he plays the same in almost every game.

That's a pretty broad generalization friendo.

Lol, seriously. 

To answer you question, it's a combination of everything.  K' has been known to have less options in this version but a combination of tweaks to his recovery plus the general system of XIII complements him well. 

His special moves cancels well in HD, his Ex moves also work well with his cancel, his air.qcb+BCD shortcut helps activate into his HD juggles, his corner trap is strong and arguably one of the best (couple that with his low recovery on his specials), he charges up real quick (great first or last character), his qcb K.qcb K (Narrow Spike) setups for his juggles as well, great air normals and above average NeoMax all push him to the top tier category

Thanks for the detailed response. I had a general why he was top tier in XIII. I was wondering more about older titles specifically 2002/2002um.  Also I read that you have done some experimenting with Clark. I was wondering who you think has better tools Clark or Ralph. Sorry if this is the wrong section I wasn't sure which character forum to ask in.

[Kane317]

Thanks for the detailed response. I had a general why he was top tier in XIII. I was wondering more about older titles specifically 2002/2002um.  Also I read that you have done some experimenting with Clark. I was wondering who you think has better tools Clark or Ralph. Sorry if this is the wrong section I wasn't sure which character forum to ask in.

I'm no longer an authority on 2k2UM so I'll let the ppl that still play it answer that.

As for the section, I suppose it could be in the gameplay/system thread so I'll move your post there.

[Hokuto-Youssef]

We are having our 2nd Streaming on KOF XIII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pTrOL8Cs7k
Next Friday, at 9pm (Paris time) on the same adresse (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/kof-13)

I hope to see you

[Ash]

above average NeoMax all push him to the top tier category

This is one thing I've been curious about, how useful is his NM? In a few vids I've seen it's beaten some ridiculous stuff, looks like it's death on whiff though due to the long recovery more so than any other NM.

His neomax is average, it's not great at all. It just appears to be. It has no invincibility, and has a few start up frames. I've been hit out of it countless times and stopped using it all together unless I see a predictable regular/hyper jump. Not good to use against hops or wake up.

Basically K' boils down to 3 major points that make him top tier. I know this because I played him a lot and recently dropped him for the most part, unless it's a tournament.

1. Near or best jump attack in the game (D) that leads to combos.
2. Minute Spike allows juggling afterwards
3. Good recover and startup on qcf+P, allowing for f+D -> juggles and great corner traps.

If you take away these 3, he would be average tier, 3 or 4 at least on a scale of 5.

[MUSOLINI]

We are having our 2nd Streaming on KOF XIII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pTrOL8Cs7k
Next Friday, at 9pm (Paris time) on the same adresse (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/kof-13)

I hope to see you

awesome, quick q, marocco or algeria (seeing as your from france).

[Hokuto-Youssef]

marocco or algeria (seeing as your from france).

Heuu French?

[Diavle]

In regards to the input lag issue that was mentioned a few times with the game... it seems the SSF4AE machines are having a similar problem.  

[Nikolai VolKOF]

We are having our 2nd Streaming on KOF XIII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pTrOL8Cs7k
Next Friday, at 9pm (Paris time) on the same adresse (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/kof-13)

I hope to see you

Cool, i really enjoyed the last one. I watched the whole thing even though i was correcting finals due the next day muahahah

[venusandeve]

marocco or algeria (seeing as your from france).

Heuu French?

my excuses for the insensitive question. he's dutch, they do that sometimes

[MUSOLINI]

marocco or algeria (seeing as your from france).

Heuu French?

nah i meant your blood, where your (grand) parents are originally from. ive never heard a full blooded frenchmen called youssef, thats why. we got ali's in holland, and i doubt even 1 of them is originally a full blooded dutch guy. meaning they immigrated. unless your actually a full blooded french guy named youssef.

venus, excuse moi. since when is asking for somebodies origin insensetive?

[Aenthin]

Probably not insensitive but really not in the appropriate thread though. ^^;

[MUSOLINI]

why not? its a normal question and hardly 1 that needs its own thread. maybe a pm would have been better, but again its just asking someone for their ethnic bg. is it really that big a thing in the us? if i meet somebody in the street and he looks like say a greek, ill ask if hes greek. if he doesnt look like it but his name is somethingchros, again, ill ask the shit. first time seeing people react this way to such a simple question, its a harder question online than ofline? lol.

[Chlorophylle]

Le stream n'a toujours pas commencé Youssef, c'est bien aujourd'hui, ou il y a un problème ?

>> Still no stream Youssef, is it really today or is there a problem ?

[Shinra Shiranui]

Le stream n'a toujours pas commencé Youssef, c'est bien aujourd'hui, ou il y a un problème ?

>> Still no stream Youssef, is it really today or is there a problem ?

Its next friday not this friday