The King of Fighters XIII Video Thread

[THE ANSWER]

^^ I am totally with you m8
Takuma can make a 100% combo starting with full HD and 1 power gauge only and people put him in the lower tiers team.

His defense....

I just saying this on Friday to the SoCal guys, I dunno if it's full HD + 2 stocks or only + 1 stock...I think that should factor him into a higher spot alone.  Granted, 1 combo shouldn't move someone to the top but at the same time look what happened to Mature and Joe in v1.0.  Of course it's harder to do than say a Mature combo, but a practical 100% is still something to give consideration to. 

I think as it stands, outside of Takuma, the strongest 100% combo is Chin's technically speaking, although it's so circumstantial that it's almost negligible (Must drink, and the positioning is very critical to the point if you add an extra s.C or you jump in from the wrong direction; it'll push them out of the spot since the combo requires wiring) You also have to start with Chin's jump in which, as anyone knows, is like doing one of those chase-projectile-combos...ok maybe not that bad lol); Chin's is 3 stocks, HD, 1 drink.  After that, it might be Shen's 4 stock HD corner 100%.

If indeed it only takes 1 stock and 1 HD bar for Takuma to do the 100% then that's pretty disgusting.

A better player not using K' and Raiden will still win more than a person who uses both with lesser skill. They are top tier, but not game breaking.

Well I think it depends on the spread of skill.  A beginner user trying to dropkick experienced player or spamming K''s Eins Trigger (qcf+P) isn't going to get very far against veterans.  When the skill level of the K' and Raiden user gets pretty high, he'll still take out a higher skill player that aren't using K' and Raiden, if you ask me. 

Let's say you have an experienced player like Romance use Raiden and K', and he practices them like he does with King; I'm willing to wager that he'll take out Mr. Kof ft10 if Mr. Kof doesn't use them himself.  We don't even have to look at a theorectical situation, the last AI tourney we had when Reynald started using Raiden, Mr. Kof had to use Raiden himself to stay competitive.

That's what I've been saying since day 1 of Raiden's DKs, when the day comes when high level experience players start using Raiden and it comes down to winning they rest of the players will have to start using him as well. That is probably the best example, at the time of the last tournament Mr.KOF was the best XIII player but when Raiden was added to the equation by Reynald who is a skilled players him self, as skilled as Mr.KOF is, he had no other option but to use Raiden as well.

I don't know if you guys can tell that in part 1 of the new vids after that Raiden, k, Max player started getting a win streak a few of the other players started adding Raiden to their lineup.

If Raiden is not fixed by the console release, this game is going to flop.

[MUSOLINI]

wow that last joe player was really nice imo. his maxima kicked ass as well.

[Ash]

^^ I am totally with you m8
Takuma can make a 100% combo starting with full HD and 1 power gauge only and people put him in the lower tiers team.

His defense....

I just saying this on Friday to the SoCal guys, I dunno if it's full HD + 2 stocks or only + 1 stock...I think that should factor him into a higher spot alone.  Granted, 1 combo shouldn't move someone to the top but at the same time look what happened to Mature and Joe in v1.0.  Of course it's harder to do than say a Mature combo, but a practical 100% is still something to give consideration to. 

I think as it stands, outside of Takuma, the strongest 100% combo is Chin's technically speaking, although it's so circumstantial that it's almost negligible (Must drink, and the positioning is very critical to the point if you add an extra s.C or you jump in from the wrong direction; it'll push them out of the spot since the combo requires wiring) You also have to start with Chin's jump in which, as anyone knows, is like doing one of those chase-projectile-combos...ok maybe not that bad lol); Chin's is 3 stocks, HD, 1 drink.  After that, it might be Shen's 4 stock HD corner 100%.

If indeed it only takes 1 stock and 1 HD bar for Takuma to do the 100% then that's pretty disgusting.

A better player not using K' and Raiden will still win more than a person who uses both with lesser skill. They are top tier, but not game breaking.

Well I think it depends on the spread of skill.  A beginner user trying to dropkick experienced player or spamming K''s Eins Trigger (qcf+P) isn't going to get very far against veterans.  When the skill level of the K' and Raiden user gets pretty high, he'll still take out a higher skill player that aren't using K' and Raiden, if you ask me. 

Let's say you have an experienced player like Romance use Raiden and K', and he practices them like he does with King; I'm willing to wager that he'll take out Mr. Kof ft10 if Mr. Kof doesn't use them himself.  We don't even have to look at a theorectical situation, the last AI tourney we had when Reynald started using Raiden, Mr. Kof had to use Raiden himself to stay competitive.

That's what I've been saying since day 1 of Raiden's DKs, when the day comes when high level experience players start using Raiden and it comes down to winning they rest of the players will have to start using him as well. That is probably the best example, at the time of the last tournament Mr.KOF was the best players XIII but when Raiden was added to the equation by Reynald who is a skilled players him self, and as skilled as Mr.KOF is, he had no other option but to use Raiden as well.

I don't know if you guys can tell that in part 1 of the new vids after that Raiden, k, Max player started getting a win streak a few of the other players started adding Raiden to their lineup.

If Raiden is not fixed by the console release, this game is going to flop.

This is probably the 2nd most balanced KOF. A lot of people will never be satisfied. If K' and Raiden get toned down, then it'll be Kula, Elizabeth, and then who knows after that.

I highly doubt if Raiden isn't fixed that the game will flop either.

[Shiranui_ninja]

I'm not saying K' and Raiden have to be nerfed lower than Kula or Liz, they could be nerfed to the same level. What I hate of SSFIV online is that 8 of 10 matches are against Ryu/Ken, and I'm seeing this happening to KOF XIII console version online... And I'm more worried about complainings and people leaving the game (or not enetering in KOF world) for this than if I will be able to win them with Mai, King and Mature (I think I will :D)

[Ash]

I'm not saying K' and Raiden have to be nerfed lower than Kula or Liz, they could be nerfed to the same level. What I hate of SSFIV online is that 8 of 10 matches are against Ryu/Ken, and I'm seeing this happening to KOF XIII console version online... And I'm more worried about complainings and people leaving the game (or not enetering in KOF world) for this than if I will be able to win them with Mai, King and Mature (I think I will :D)

That's not what I meant. I mean if they do nerf K' and Raiden. After that people will complain about Elizabeth and Kula and want to nerf them as well. And after that people will again find something to complain about and want nerfed. The information is already out there for almost a year, so we should just leave it up to SNKP and see what happens with balance changes.

[MUSOLINI]

I'm not saying K' and Raiden have to be nerfed lower than Kula or Liz, they could be nerfed to the same level. What I hate of SSFIV online is that 8 of 10 matches are against Ryu/Ken, and I'm seeing this happening to KOF XIII console version online... And I'm more worried about complainings and people leaving the game (or not enetering in KOF world) for this than if I will be able to win them with Mai, King and Mature (I think I will :D)

ken and ryu aint even high tier, your better off facing them than anybody actually worth a damn.

[Kane317]

I believe the previous few posts should be in general or home port wishlist.

Moved.  It's always a challenge to try to split a post since there's a certain amount of overlap but I've moved the tier fixes to the The King of Fighters XIII Home Port Wishlist thread.  The rest of this discussion is slightly off topic but it kinda stems from the video so I'll leave it here.

I highly doubt if Raiden isn't fixed that the game will flop either.

Yeah me neither.

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The sales and future success of XIII discussion warrants it to be moved to the The King of Fighters XIII General Discussion Thread.

[MUSOLINI]

I'm not saying K' and Raiden have to be nerfed lower than Kula or Liz, they could be nerfed to the same level. What I hate of SSFIV online is that 8 of 10 matches are against Ryu/Ken, and I'm seeing this happening to KOF XIII console version online... And I'm more worried about complainings and people leaving the game (or not enetering in KOF world) for this than if I will be able to win them with Mai, King and Mature (I think I will :D)

That's not what I meant. I mean if they do nerf K' and Raiden. After that people will complain about Elizabeth and Kula and want to nerf them as well. And after that people will again find something to complain about and want nerfed. The information is already out there for almost a year, so we should just leave it up to SNKP and see what happens with balance changes.

nobody but these 4 need to be nerfed.

[Kane317]

Finally saw a Chin that's doing the more damaging variations.  It only took 9 months to catch it on a Japanese match...so odd considering they're the ones to post it first.

[a11111357]

卷毛黄胖子上海交流录像 卷毛部分 - 视频 - 优酷视频 - 在线观看
卷毛黄胖子上海交流录像 乱战 - 视频 - 优酷视频 - 在线观看
卷毛黄胖子上海交流录像 黄胖子部分 - 视频 - 优酷视频 - 在线观看

[Shiranui_ninja]

2011 04-16 KOF XIII 第1回関西対抗戦 Kyoto VS 兵庫 前半

2011 04-16 KOF XIII 第1回関西対抗戦 Kyoto VS 兵庫 後半

[asociale]

卷毛黄胖子上海交流录像 卷毛部分 - 视频 - 优酷视频 - 在线观看
卷毛黄胖子上海交流录像 乱战 - 视频 - 优酷视频 - 在线观看
卷毛黄胖子上海交流录像 黄胖子部分 - 视频 - 优酷视频 - 在线观看

I uploaded some videos from those links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugj2Fa3eGRk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozVHgWReJPo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAMgYA7eIEE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHaxajnhjbE

[a11111357]

thank you.Youku is slow.

[asociale]

thank you.Youku is slow.

well i m china so is not that slow xD dunno in Taiwan heihei

[Kane317]

2011 04-16 KOF XIII 第1回関西対抗戦 Kyoto VS 兵庫 前半

2011 04-16 KOF XIII 第1回関西対抗戦 Kyoto VS 兵庫 後半

Just a quick note, our very own No. 17 will be seen in the next Kyoto vs series if I'm not mistaken, he said it would be on May 21st and he'll represent the West/Kyoto?