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Pao Pao Cafe => Social Club => Topic started by: sibarraz on October 02, 2011, 02:06:42 AM
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Until this year I never realized how much I love racing games, and now for first time a forza game has got me so hyped to the point that I will buy it from launch. I will buy GT5 if I had a ps3, I had mad respects from that series
And also, NFS The run seems really fun, it's worth a check
OutRun: Augmented Reality Driving Video Game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaTB5Q11Dzc#ws)
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GT5 is totally sick and I have been a fan of the series for a long time and can't wait for 2.0 and the upcoming DLC also I think provides experiences that can't be had anywhere else ie their reality vs. simulation event with David Coulthard . it's also kind of funny that I want a 360 for Forza and you want a PS3 for GT5. In regards to the Run i'm still skeptical as I feel the recent NFS games are somewhat overated and it's developed by Blackbox who made a lot of the crappy NFS games in recent years Mercedes Benz Gran Turismo 5 Live Race with David Coulthard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVgBFBNyxS0#ws)
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I used to play quite a bit of F-Zero, Wipe Out, Extreme-G, Mario Kart, Wave Race, and San Francisco Rush.
I haven't really played many racing games since the 32/64-Bit era's came to an end, save for F-Zero on Game Cube and Wipeout HD on PS3.
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Wipeout 3 on PlayStation is my favorite. Although I suck at it.
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Baccano, from some friends, I had heard that GT5 is not that good
Which is your opinion? It seems like all they hyper from the first E3 to the day of launch really killed the game, to the point that their sales are not that good (still are awesome) and some reviews trashed the game
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Baccano, from some friends, I had heard that GT5 is not that good
Which is your opinion? It seems like all they hyper from the first E3 to the day of launch really killed the game, to the point that their sales are not that good (still are awesome) and some reviews trashed the game
"The absence of a rewind function, which has become a common mechanic in driving games over the last few years, is going to hurt novices most... It’s especially unfortunate then that you can’t gain XP in the online races to spice things up a bit. Although I never had any problems finding races through the game’s lobby system, it was almost impossible to figure out what the requirements were for each race I joined... To be honest, the menu system all throughout GT5 is bad. Exiting out of anything almost always requires a confirmation or extra key-press, and unusually long load times for simple menus can sometimes dampen the fun...There’s also an AI-driven B-Spec mode where you give commands to a driver that levels separately from yourself. Essentially you watch a race in movie mode and have the ability to tell the driver when to pace up and down, and when to try to pass another driver. If it sounds boring, that’s because it is Quote from Giantbomb's review(according to metacritic this was the most negative review the game got)http://www.giantbomb.com/gran-turismo-5/61-21790/reviews/
These seem to be the most common complaints based on what i've read in the last 11 months and i'll try to address each of the stated problems. The rewind function is almost like complaining about KOF13 not having a comeback mechanic and is quite frankly a dumb complaint that only lazy players care about. In terms of online the interface has been streamlined and improved via updates these updates have also alowed you to earn XP online so that point has become irrelavant. The menus are a little tedious and somewhat cluttered and the load times are a bit much however I don't feel like it hurts the game all that much. In regards to B-Spec mode my opinion is if you don't like it just don't play it since it doesn't restrict your progress or prevent you from earning pretty much every car I don't see why people made such a big deal about a feature that was clearly intended for a certain auduence(myself included) that actually likes B-Spec mode since it adds another layer of gameplay that isn't available in competing games. Also in terms of GT5's overall "feel" in terms of the Actual gameplay is still fairly unrivaled in terms of it's realism and in how the physics work, the car's handling, braking etc. also the range of cars and events is very impressive boasting cars from road going, rally, GT1, JGTC,DTM, Nascar,Go-karts,Concept, New original cars that only exist in the GT games, F1 and several other types I can't remember off the top of my head. In the end I think the best quote i've heard describing the game was in 1up.com's review of the game " it's about patience. Because Gran Turismo 5 contains a seemingly unending supply of driving experience to enjoy, if you just allow yourself the time to discover it."http://www.1up.com/reviews/gran-turismo-5-review
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Thanks for the little review baccano, still, I don't know why I had this vibe than forza 4 will improve their own errors and the ones from polyphony and deliver a more polished and maybe better game
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i never really could get into gt at all especially gt5 the fact that you cant paint your car the way you want really kills it for me granted the driving mechanics may be better or on par with forza's it just really takes the fun out of it when you can only just drive a car and do nothing else (besides is fun to watch people get mad when beat people with a enzo Ferrari with hatsune miku painted on it)
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i never really could get into gt at all especially gt5 the fact that you cant paint your car the way you want really kills it for me granted the driving mechanics may be better or on par with forza's it just really takes the fun out of it when you can only just drive a car and do nothing else (besides is fun to watch people get mad when beat people with a enzo Ferrari with hatsune miku painted on it)
When you say " the fact that you cant paint your car the way you want" do you mean specifically stuff like Hatsune Miku stuff or just the colour of the car in general? I'm asking because GT5 did improve in a sense that tou can change the colour of your car as long as you have a paint chip for that shade of paint and with around 1400 shades of paint there is still quite a bit of variety in the appearance of your car.
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i never really could get into gt at all especially gt5 the fact that you cant paint your car the way you want really kills it for me granted the driving mechanics may be better or on par with forza's it just really takes the fun out of it when you can only just drive a car and do nothing else (besides is fun to watch people get mad when beat people with a enzo Ferrari with hatsune miku painted on it)
When you say " the fact that you cant paint your car the way you want" do you mean specifically stuff like Hatsune Miku stuff or just the colour of the car in general? I'm asking because GT5 did improve in a sense that tou can change the colour of your car as long as you have a paint chip for that shade of paint and with around 1400 shades of paint there is still quite a bit of variety in the appearance of your car.
i meant the fact that you can't add stuff like liveries to it i think that shit is boring with out it
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Wipeout 3 on PlayStation is my favorite. Although I suck at it.
It's great, i've got that and sega rally arcade online, or whatever order there was to that name. Both are fun, though wipeout is clearly better imo.
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I liked sega rally online demo, but not to the point of buy it, the lack of courses killed the game for me, plus, it was not nearly as good as Sega Rally 2
One Awesome game of driving is Outrun 2, I had a blast playing to the point that took me 2 years to get all the achievements, as a grateful experience, sadly, it seems that has been removed from the network (and in the bazar later) due to Ferrari License problems
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I don't play any realistic racing games. I own a car and live right off of the interstate. I can drive realistically whenever I would like to. Just like fighting games, I don't like realism.
My favorite racer is Burnout Paradise. Midnight Club is cool but I prefer the madness of Burnout.
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I don't play any realistic racing games. I own a car and live right off of the interstate. I can drive realistically whenever I would like to. Just like fighting games, I don't like realism.
My favorite racer is Burnout Paradise. Midnight Club is cool but I prefer the madness of Burnout.
Pretty much this for me. I like Mario Kart games better than any realistic racing games.
So does that mean you also like games like Mario Kart? :D
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Mario Kart feels a little slow to me. I have fun with Double Dash on Gamecube and the DS version was pretty good.
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I don't play any realistic racing games. I own a car and live right off of the interstate. I can drive realistically whenever I would like to. Just like fighting games, I don't like realism.
My favorite racer is Burnout Paradise. Midnight Club is cool but I prefer the madness of Burnout.
burnout paradise is shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttyy burnout 3 is still the best out of all of them also i really hate that argument that "i already have a car so i can drive realistically whenever i want" i mean i would understand if everyone had a Ferrari or a souped up subaru but im gonna go on and assume most of us have just your usual everyday car that can get us from point A to point B and to my knowledge there really isn't any realistic fighting game (maybe the ufc games if you count those as fighting games or bushido blade)
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The realism vs Fantasy is actually a really good debate which in the driving genre became more controversial
Personally, I love both of them, Arcade Style is more relaxed where you can pull things way more easy than other games
In the other hand, realistic games are really awesome because you can feel how much effort developers put to create the game and make it as real as possible, at least in forza 4 and GT5 there are tons of things that I could NEVER do in real life (time, profession, transit laws) so is actually the most near that you could do incredible things without having troubles (even though the experience will be better with a wheel, but sadly, those are expensive as hell)
I think that NFS: The run has reached a good mix between simulator and arcade, personally, I don't like all those NFS with the pimp my car style, but neither the simulators because they didn't seemed as polished as GT5 or Forza, but NFS The run really mix well both things
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Yeah, racing games are an odd beast for sure. It's sort of like the 2D/3D fighting game thing, only the general public and casuals are a lot more observant of the differences. And like that dichotomy, companies usually tend to try and corner one part of the market instead of all of it, and usually when they try to go a little too far into the other corner, bad things happen (NFS Prostreet for example). But if a company can somehow either make good games of both types, they could corner the market.
The problem is, there are entrenched series now that people will go to in order to get their fix, just like Fighting Games (SF/MK for 2D, Tekken/Soul Caliber for 3D, just like GT/Forza for Realism and Burnout/NFS for Arcade).
Two interesting questions. If you're on the outside looking in, which style do you try and go after? Second question...if you're already inside, do you try and take a shot at the other corner with your main franchise?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmZL_D-c_qM&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmZL_D-c_qM&feature=player_embedded#)!
Gee I wonder which game could be?
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...Daytona USA? No...way...
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ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLING STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAART
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Man, how long has it been since I played that game.
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daytona jus beat out my hype for KoF
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daytona jus beat out my hype for KoF
Probably won't last considering...it will be a while until we see DAT Daytona return.
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Daytona? What is a Daytona?
Everybody knows that it will be Sega Classic Racing
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Daytona? What is a Daytona?
Everybody knows that it will be Sega Classic Racing
Don't even troll like that (not to mention, we don't need ANOTHER Shenmue cameo of sorts without having a sequel :'()
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I loved Burnout Paradise. The racing just felt great.
When I say realistic fighting games, I generally mean games like VF which don't have projectiles and other crazy shit. When I sit down for a game, I want that game to have no attachment to reality. Part of the reason I enjoy Midnight Club: LA was jumping off of the interstate and rolling through someone's yard while fleeing the police. That's what I want in my games: ridiculous over-the-top stuff.
You couldn't pay me to play GT or Forza. That shit is really boring to me.
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Daytona? What is a Daytona?
Everybody knows that it will be Sega Classic Racing
Don't even troll like that (not to mention, we don't need ANOTHER Shenmue cameo of sorts without having a sequel :'()
Actually, it was semi trolling
On 2009 sega released a remake of Daytona USA for the arcades called Sega Classic Racing, the new name was because SEGA lost the rights of the daytona franchise (Sony must had them since the track appears on GT5) so basically, they renamed any mention of the game, completely changed let's go away so the singer will never say daytona, and as far as other changes, is the same game, same polygons from 1993, but with another camera so the game would look like is displayed in wide screen, and they changed the textures
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I loved Burnout Paradise. The racing just felt great.
When I say realistic fighting games, I generally mean games like VF which don't have projectiles and other crazy shit. When I sit down for a game, I want that game to have no attachment to reality. Part of the reason I enjoy Midnight Club: LA was jumping off of the interstate and rolling through someone's yard while fleeing the police. That's what I want in my games: ridiculous over-the-top stuff.
You couldn't pay me to play GT or Forza. That shit is really boring to me.
you should go back and play midnight club 3 much better racing much better music just overall better game than MN4
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I don't know about you guys, but if there's one game series I really hate, it's Need for Speed. I hate how it celebrates the "Fast and Furious" culture (I don't know if that makes sense to anyone...). I'll take the boring real-life driving simulators over that any day.
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I don't know about you guys, but if there's one game series I really hate, it's Need for Speed. I hate how it celebrates the "Fast and Furious" culture (I don't know if that makes sense to anyone...). I'll take the boring real-life driving simulators over that any day.
Honestly, no, I don't get that. Not to mention, they haven't done a Fast & Furious wannabe game in a while either, and the only ones people even liked were the Undergrounds which were solely made to piggyback off the success of the movie.
Idk why you'd hate how it "celebrates" it. I can understand disliking its style of game (plenty of people don't) but that's just...weird.
It's best if you elaborate why you hate the so called FaF culture.
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FaF culture:
"Ooh, I'm so cool because I have a Japanese car I can tune up with all the money I have which allows me to get pussy and act all cool and badass."
That attitude is what I hate. It's kinda similar to gangsta culture but with a car added on to it. Basically, I don't like swagger and arrogance.
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FaF culture:
"Ooh, I'm so cool because I have a Japanese car I can tune up with all the money I have which allows me to get pussy and act all cool and badass."
That attitude is what I hate. It's kinda similar to gangsta culture but with a car added on to it. Basically, I don't like swagger and arrogance.
Okay, yeah, I didn't get that feeling from ANY NFS game...
I mean, i could understand that, but tbqh, Street Racing is nowhere near like what is portrayed in FaF (though the arrogance might remain, but let's be honest, humans are arrogant >_<).
Also, Muscle beats Import every time.
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After carbono, NFS is a series which is approaching more a forza style than the FaF style, and even the run is far from being that
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anyone play the forza 4 demo? game is beautiful
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Yeah, racing games are an odd beast for sure. It's sort of like the 2D/3D fighting game thing, only the general public and casuals are a lot more observant of the differences. And like that dichotomy, companies usually tend to try and corner one part of the market instead of all of it, and usually when they try to go a little too far into the other corner, bad things happen (NFS Prostreet for example). But if a company can somehow either make good games of both types, they could corner the market.
The problem is, there are entrenched series now that people will go to in order to get their fix, just like Fighting Games (SF/MK for 2D, Tekken/Soul Caliber for 3D, just like GT/Forza for Realism and Burnout/NFS for Arcade).
Two interesting questions. If you're on the outside looking in, which style do you try and go after? Second question...if you're already inside, do you try and take a shot at the other corner with your main franchise?
If I was a developer thinking of starting a new racing franchise I would definitly go for the arcade style because overall the interest in arcade style racers tends to be much greater and they generally sell better than sim type racers, in addition to that the amount of work required to accurately replicate the way cars handle and brake, the way physics work ie: In a collision how would the car react? these types of issues would likely inflate development costs far beyond what it would cost to develop a more arcade style racer. Also if I already had an established series if it was a sim type racer I wouldn't consider going the arcade route since a large portion of the audience for the game would likely feel alienated by the decision as a lot of people who play a game like GT play GT and very little else in terms of racing games and they could possibly give up on the series.
Edit: I just noticed on GT Planet details on GT5's Spec 2.0 update and some vague information about DLC http://www.gtplanet.net/gt5-spec-2-0-dlc-details-standard-car-interiors-replay-controls-new-cars-new-tracks-more/ (http://www.gtplanet.net/gt5-spec-2-0-dlc-details-standard-car-interiors-replay-controls-new-cars-new-tracks-more/)
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heres a car i half made in forza 3(didn't do the art)
[spoiler](http://sadpanda.us/images/694485-2GRGMZJ.jpg)[/spoiler]
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Footage of Spa de Francorchamps DLC track for GT5 in case anyone is interested in it.
Gran Turismo 5 Spec 2.0 DLC • Ferrari F10 at Spa Francorchamps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk2sYhnIe0A#ws)
Gran Turismo 5 Spec 2.0 DLC • TVR Tamora at Spa Francorchamps Weather Change (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoGpkZpry_w#ws)
Edit: added second video with weather effects
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forza looks soo fucking good, but plays soo fucking bad its killing me. especially my friends who only own a 360 are still pissed of at the game handling like crap. has anybody making this game ever actually gotten around to driving a car in real life in wonder.
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forza looks soo fucking good, but plays soo fucking bad its killing me. especially my friends who only own a 360 are still pissed of at the game handling like crap. has anybody making this game ever actually gotten around to driving a car in real life in wonder.
forza handles bad?
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Wow GT5 DLC delayed... in North America but, why? who knows. Oh well at least there is a bonus included.
http://www.gtplanet.net/gt5s-dlc-delayed-in-north-america-releases-october-25-with-special-bonus/ (http://www.gtplanet.net/gt5s-dlc-delayed-in-north-america-releases-october-25-with-special-bonus/)
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so the new need for speed games is kinda meh
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forza looks soo fucking good, but plays soo fucking bad its killing me. especially my friends who only own a 360 are still pissed of at the game handling like crap. has anybody making this game ever actually gotten around to driving a car in real life in wonder.
forza handles bad?
forza handles like crap. all the cars float on the road instead of actually driving on it. the feeling you have with the tires gripping the road, i can feel it in gt but not in forza. ive driven fast cars and ive driven fast as well, its nothing like in this game. add the fact that the cars ive driven had better handling with sports tires than forzas real race cars with racing tires do. the handling in gt is way more realistic than anything in forza, and no thats not imo. ive driven close to 300 kmh in cars like porsche, bmw and benzes, i can feel the realness in games like gt because it actually resembled how cars handle in real life. in forza, fuck no. its actually no biggy for me, but some of my friends that only own a 360 want something similar to the driving experience of gt and theres nothing even close to it on 360. forza kept on getting better and better with each instalment, but none of that matters when the cars drive like they do. forza looks really good though, i think f4 is at least as goodas gt5 in the looks department.
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You must be the first person who says that forza 4 handles bad
And I had talked with guys who literally only play simulator games or real cars
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anybody getting daytona next week?
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The game has been priced?
Edit: 10 dollars/800 mp, A really good price, I will buy a card to had money for this and the DLC of kof xiii
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You must be the first person who says that forza 4 handles bad
And I had talked with guys who literally only play simulator games or real cars
not to make fun of you but your friends play with real cars?
my biggest gripe with forza is the weightless feel of the cars as they hover over a wet surface that's actually dry. it's been like this in all forzas for some reason.
yeah i need daytona, all 13 dlc and last part of that vc dlc.
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Well the GT5 DLC is now "available" in NA to purchase... however you can't actually download it and Sony doesn't know what the hell is going on so yeah GOOD JOB SCEA!. seriously though if your knterested in downloading the DLC don't until theres confirmation that it's actually downloadable and here a thread on GT Planet with a lot of talk on whats going on
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=229307&page=27 (http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=229307&page=27)
Edit Thankully Sony has quickly responded and resolved the issue and everything is working fine
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As I said in the other thread, DAYTONA is on the US PSN. Dunno about XBL, haven't checked.
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Out of curiossity does anyone here play Test Drive Unlimited 2? Just curious since I don't know anyone who plays it and have wanted to try the different online events for a while but pretty much no one plays it and like half thoose people are just complete assholes that are trying to screw with everyone, also the recent patch has helped a bit here are some of the known changes in the patch
Enhancements
Players are now able to sell reward cars they have earned in dealerships
Roads are now marked as “explored” for areas visited when riding as a passenger
Rewards increased for multiplayer challenges
Car class restriction added to multiplayer ranked challenges
Player name display updated in free ride for improved clarity
PC Only: Players may now edit password details on profiles
PC Only: Chat text Colors and positioning adjusted for PC users
Bug fixes
Instant challenge routes will adjust based on players vehicle types (i.e. dirt roads vs asphalt)
Adjusted impact sound after certain jumps
Casino roulette exploits removed
Casino Level 10 cut scene updated
Club Challenges updated to allow players to race with the club cars
IP Voice menu management on PS3 (ables the player to turn off IP Voice)
Fixed a map bug that would display online players swimming far into the Mediterranean