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Tournaments => Upcoming Tournaments & Events => Archives => Topic started by: THE ANSWER on July 16, 2011, 09:01:17 AM
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Well now that Atlus has made their announcement I think it's time for us to get official with this event, here are the details:
When: Saturday June, 30 2011.
Time: Sign ups start as soon as the event opens until 1:OO PM, the tournament starts shaprtly at 2:00 PM.
Fee: There will be a $10 registration fee which will go to the prize pot.
Format: 2/3 matches, double elimination. Grand finals will be 3/5 matches.
Rules: All characters are allowed, winner keeps same characters but can change the starting order.
System: We will be using 2 Taito Type X2 boards with Jamma adaptors.
International players: we have confirmed Kunio aka No.17 from Japan, El Rosa From Mexico. A European player is shceduled to come however details are still pending.
Staff: Giby, Kane317 and me.
Prizes: We will be splitting the pot amongs top 6, plus we are raising a bonus pot which at the moment is around $700. The bonus pot will also be split amongs top 6.
More Prizes: If you don't make top 6 you still have a chance to walk away with a prize, Atlus has given us the following gifts for the tournament:
1. Mai Shiranui figure, valued at $340.
http://www.amazon.com/Shiranui-Hipline-Version-Omega-Figure/dp/B003OIBDHE/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1310796087&sr=8-14
1. A sketch signed by the illustrator. (No Reference)
3. KOF XIII Arcade posters (see below)
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width/hash/ed/75/ed757a134582e493353f84768c0ed954.jpg
We are going to raffle this prizes for those who don't make top 6, all you gotta do is sign up for the tournament.
This event is possible thanks to the effort from snk-capcom.com, orochinagi.com and dreamcancel.com. We would also like to thank SNKPlaymore for their support and a very special thank you to the ATLUS USA Staff for everything they are doing with KOF XIII.
Any questions please feel free to contact me or any of the staff members.
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Will the tournament be streamed?
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It will if we get enough entries. If it does, it will most likely be streamed on the secondary (offcast) stream.
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2 boards? So there's going to be more than 1 setup?
I thought Gunsmith announced that the Euro player was going to be Salim?
Looks like things are shaping up really well. Hope to see you all there!
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I'm Just so happy that my vacations in San Diego coincided with the time of EVO!!
This is gonna be HYPE!!!!!!!!!
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To Socal KOF Community
Good luck!
Like CMD Duc, The Answer, Meta, Kane317, Reynald, Bala, Romance, Chris and many other I can't seem to remember >.<
Also Good luck to Mr. KOF for SSF4 AE
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2 boards? So there's going to be more than 1 setup?
I thought Gunsmith announced that the Euro player was going to be Salim?
Looks like things are shaping up really well. Hope to see you all there!
One set up is being provided by The Answer, the other set up is being provided by SNKP and Mike_Z. Gunsmith did announce that Salim won, but they're still trying to raise money, so everyone should donate to the cause, try to get a Euro player out here!
Edit, Answer, you should edit the topic to include SNKP as a sponsor.
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One set up is being provided by The Answer, the other set up is being provided by SNKP and Mike_Z. Gunsmith did announce that Salim won, but they're still trying to raise money, so everyone should donate to the cause, try to get a Euro player out here!
Oh nice! Thanks for the heads up, Giby!
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I just found out I was on the staff list haha.
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Being a volunteer isn't voluntary, its mandatory!
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I want to take a quick moment to acknowledge an error we made in announcing Dune's plans to come to EVO prematurely.
It's true, it appears that as of now our friend Dune will not be making the trip our to Evo. When we did announced it back in ReveLAtions he was confirmed and he even heard us making the announcement himself and we chatted days afterwards on his stream about his nick name "The Godfather of Kof".
However, between recently starting a new job, moving to a new home and getting married as well as the ridiculous plane ticket price of roughly $1700 USD (not including hotel and expenses) has rendered the trip unrealistic.
We will continue to try to pull some miracles but until then the entire AA crew wish the best to Dune and his wife, and we know we'll see him in the future soon.
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I wonder who the illustrator for the sketch is. I already have the Mai figure, so I'm pretty curious. :O
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I want to take a quick moment to acknowledge an error we made in announcing Dune's plans to come to EVO prematurely.
It's true, it appears that as of now our friend Dune will not be making the trip our to Evo. When we did announced it back in ReveLAtions he was confirmed and he even heard us making the announcement himself and we chatted days afterwards on his stream about his nick name "The Godfather of Kof".
However, between recently starting a new job, moving to a new home and getting married as well the ridiculous plane ticket price of roughly $1700 USD (not including hotel and expenses) has rendered the trip unrealistic.
We will continue to try to pull some miracles but until then the entire AA crew wish the best to Dune and his wife, and we know we'll see him in the future soon.
Wow, that's pretty amazing news for Dune. I guess it's a reminder that, as much as we all love KOF, life does indeed come first. Thanks for the explanation on Dune's status regarding EVO.
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Regarding Dune, can't ATLUS help a bit? Well I know I'm saying too much, but it was just a thought.
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oh my god i'm soo hype right now, this is really the highlight of evo for me this year! can't wait!!!
oh btw, are there any plans for casuals and MM and such in the hotel rooms the night before or after this?
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Will we be able to have time with the game before the tournament begins? I have only had one chance to play it so far so any time with it beforehand would help immensely. I know I don't have a chance in hell at winning this thing. But, I would like to try to avoid looking like a complete tool. :)
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Both set ups will be available on Friday, and Saturday morning. Everyone should get a chance to play before the tournament.
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Excellent! Hot damn this tournament is going to be so much fun!
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Regarding Dune, can't ATLUS help a bit? Well I know I'm saying too much, but it was just a thought.
Money was not the primary issue, being the Godfather for KOF Dune had a few people offer to pay for his trip. The fact that he recently god married and is starting a new job is what's making him reconsider. We all love KOF but sometimes, just sometimes life has priority ;)
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Regarding Dune, can't ATLUS help a bit? Well I know I'm saying too much, but it was just a thought.
Money was not the primary issue, being the Godfather for KOF Dune had a few people offer to pay for his trip. The fact that he recently god married and is starting a new job is what's making him reconsider. We all love KOF but sometimes, just sometimes life has priority ;)
Oh ok, I thought that he had some tight budged due to recently getting married and just getting a new job. But I think I got it wrong, still best wishes for him on all of what he is doing. Hopefully next time he can come over.
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oh my god i'm soo hype right now, this is really the highlight of evo for me this year! can't wait!!!
oh btw, are there any plans for casuals and MM and such in the hotel rooms the night before or after this?
Let me paint a scenario for you man since I have been used to running these things at EVO since like 2007:
1. In SNK games more than likely not the guys may wanna sleep if its a supergun or second setup they probably won't have it running in the hotel, once Oscar etc finished unhooking it he/they are going to be tired after all of this and want to sleep.
Before same thing, depending on what time BYOC opens etc people gotta understand if for any reason you want to claim the tvs a secret to my success is that I was always like the first guy in the morning there so of course I had first dibs on everything. So sure they may decide this, but something tells me after knowing how EVO is everything will be in the BYOC area (MMs etc).
Also something else of legal advice, no need to do MMs in the hotels unless you want to, Gambling is legal in Vegas (I put money that was a good reason why Wiz decided to move EVO to Vegas in the first place), so unlike many places in the USA that want MMs in a separate hotel, you don't have to do that in Vegas you can announce them and everything to the public..
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So fucking hype for this! Totally gunna enter the tournament. I wont be busy running MK9 this time lol.
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man im way too late to join Evo now >_> I wanted to join but I thought I was entering school the day EVO begins however, Im entering school at august 15 now -__- Im such an idiot
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man im way too late to join Evo now >_> I wanted to join but I thought I was entering school the day EVO begins however, Im entering school at august 15 now -__- Im such an idiot
So what's keeping you from joining?
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man im way too late to join Evo now >_> I wanted to join but I thought I was entering school the day EVO begins however, Im entering school at august 15 now -__- Im such an idiot
So what's keeping you from joining?
Its just I thought I was entering school this july meaning i wont join Evo. instead im entering school in august now which i can go
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Good luck at EVO all! Remember, don't be afraid to put a 20 dollar bill in a machine right when you get there and max bet. I won 2,500 at EVO 2k9 doing that on a slot machine : ) I'll be watching for a stream, too...
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I'm going to Evo ,unless Duc changes his mind lol
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I'm going to Evo ,unless Duc changes his mind lol
Yeah we're still going, be ready around 11am thursday
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Special event(?):
SNKP has asked that the winner of the KOF XIII tournament play a few matches against Kei Yamamoto, producer of KOF XIII. I hope that Yamamoto-san knows what he's getting himself into.
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Special event(?):
SNKP has asked that the winner of the KOF XIII tournament play a few matches against Kei Yamamoto, producer of KOF XIII. I hope that Yamamoto-san knows what he's getting himself into.
Oh this is going to be interesting. You're telling me he's going to stay from the 10am announcement, until the tourney is finished? Wow.
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Yea, that's what I'm going to talk to them about today. I don't think they realize how long this tournament will last.
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sooooo hype, i'll be heading out there tomorrow, see you guys there!
and just to clarify, sign ups for the tournament start at 8am sharp on saturday, right?
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We're taking sign ups Friday, just look for me (hairy guy, beard, LA hat).
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friday at 8am? also, will it be capped at 32 entrants? if so, anyone who tries to register later will be outta luck right?
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No cap as of right now. We'll determine that at the show.
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Will there be set-ups on Friday?
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Will there be set-ups on Friday?
Yes there will be.
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EDIT: Compile a list of questions to ask the Producer Kei Yamamoto:
1. Netcode x infinity.
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wonder whos gonna take on the producer of kof xiii for the tourny =O
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Questions:
Can games be recorded for replay?
How will button configuration work?
Will there be a demo?
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All the other Atlus questions that haven't been answer
Will there be an update for the arcade?
Will kof 98 um fe be playable outside of Japan?
Is the samurai shodown rumor true? Are they really working on it?
Any chance to see other games beside kof.
Fix the netcode on psn/xbl games
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Frionel and mk just announced that Japanese SF player, RF, will be entering KOF XIII as well. JAPANESE!!!!! I can't wait to see who else will be entering the tournament.
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Frionel and mk just announced that Japanese SF player, RF, will be entering KOF XIII as well. JAPANESE!!!!! I can't wait to see who else will be entering the tournament.
oh yeah he's sponsored by E live too right?
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Frionel and mk just announced that Japanese SF player, RF, will be entering KOF XIII as well. JAPANESE!!!!! I can't wait to see who else will be entering the tournament.
There's already a rumor of an even more popular Japanese player that might join ...
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Originally, RF is a Guilty Gear player. Won GGXXAC SBO'10 with Shonen and Ogawa.
And he won GG EVO 2005 championship.
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EVO stream is up
http://www.ustwrap.info/multi/evo-1::evo-2 (http://www.ustwrap.info/multi/evo-1::evo-2)
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no kof13 stream???
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Who did take top 6?
Nevermind, I found.
TheAnswer
Results for the KOF XIII side tournament 1. BALA 2. Romance 3. Mr. KOF 4. Reynald 5. El Rosa (Mex) 6. Xian from Singapore.
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Nice results tbh...any word on vids?
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Okay guys out of respect for everyone else as I know what it's like, please have the utmost patience in regards to videos. This is the last thing I think they are thinking about right now they are probably sleeping in a hotel room I know from being at EVO before and then getting bombarded about video questions. Just wait a week before you ask them anything about videos please, give them time to get settled, travel home, get situated please people.
Now to the good news and controversy:
Congratulations to BALA for winning and proving to those that may have felt him winning at ReveLAtions was a fluke that it was not!!!
Some other things to note for discussion:
1. You did it USA. You put yourself on the map for KOF13, Congratulations, in an international tournament you took top 4, defeating the person that got 4th at SBO (which again I will talk about later) - Xian.
2. Congratulations Mexico- Mexico is again showing the world that it is a force to be reckoned with with BALA. Also with El Rosa taking top 5 that shows this!!!
Now to the "controversial stuff":
Without knowing all the details of the tournament or Xian's performance/stick comfort level etc, I will say this again proves my point guys that SBO isn't the end all be all of everything. Like The KOF Cup stole the thunder from Duelling the KOF and SBO, this tournament steals more thunder from SBO because it proves that ranking Top 4 in SBO for KOF13 doesn't really mean much.
Basically as I've been saying for years guys, all SBO is is a glorified SuperRegional tournament AT BEST..nothing remotely close to a World Championship!!!
Good job to all that entered/ran/setup the tournament, now I certainly have to handle my own business this weekend as well as it appears some "unexpected but pleasant" possible news coming up...
-DG
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Basically as I've been saying for years guys, all SBO is is a glorified SuperRegional tournament AT BEST..nothing remotely close to a World Championship!!!
Not just KOF. Any fighting game what was/is in SBO.
The BBCS2 EVO Finals > Any SBO BBCS match
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Basically as I've been saying for years guys, all SBO is is a glorified SuperRegional tournament AT BEST..nothing remotely close to a World Championship!!!
Not just KOF. Any fighting game what was/is in SBO.
The BBCS2 EVO Finals > Any SBO BBCS match
Yeah see but that's not my area of expertise..I can only rely on KOF because that's my area of expertise so glad you are dropping some insight into things..
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Well, here's some footage one of the KOF XIII
Side Tourney events...
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/16323949 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/16323949)
The downside is its only one match, and part of it... Then it goes into MK9 Finals...
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^ That's from the exhibition
Btw, all results and vids should be made a new thread in the results section, so I'll be waiting for that when the guys get back online here.
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We'll post full results later. Top-8 was recorded,
In regards to the SBO thing, you guys need to understand that Xian only played KOF once after SBO. He also needed a specific layout to play on, which he wasn't able to use at times due to us flipping coins for set ups. For playing once in a year, the guy is still damn good.
I'll post more later, I need food, sleep, and a bunch of other things.
edit - didn't realize I wrote "the gay is still damn good" thanks Noc, and 4leaf for pointing out my typo
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I just got back from Vegas but I have to go to work soon. I'll post my shout outs and thoughts on the tournament when I get back tonight. Overall it's probably one the best turn outs we've had so far for an EVO side tournament.
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This is why I prefer console 300% over arcades any day of the week. It's a hassle changing configurations and sticks possibly every match. I remember what we had to do with Hummer it took ten minutes to change the sticks every time he played. If people understood things from an organizer's perspective, they would see why we prefer console.
1. No whining about sticks/lag on sticks or whatever- You bring your own end of story.
2. No whining about button layout or hitting the buttons too hard- You bring your own.
Only problem with console is if it's not arcade perfect. Yes I understand some people want to play in the arcade, but it's just more work than I feel is necessary to have things on the arcade all the time when all it takes is people choosing to not be stubborn and learn the console version. Don't be afrad to try anything new, you just may like it.
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We'll post full results later. Top-8 was recorded,
Lies, nobody recorded RJ and myself, at least not me hehe =( We tied for 7th place which I'm pleased with the results considering there were 54 participants, and also factoring the ppl that got eliminated (sorry Kunio and Salim ^.^).
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@DG. I think this is one of those situations that is taken way OUT of context since you were not there. Not one single player, had anything but MAD respect for Xian, he was incredibly classy and well mannered on top of his skill--which sadly I can say is not the case for most high level players.
Xian participated in SBO'10 as many you remembered last year in Japan, he said when he returned to Singapore the scene completely died for XIII (1 machine left in Singapore) and he has not touched the game, except maybe once, before playing the night before of the side tourney. One whole year. He also placed top 32 for MvC3 and AE just to get an idea how versatile of a player he is.
Xian who plays a typical Singapore/HK layout of:
A B C
D
Was unable to configure his buttons on one of our setups, and had to play on a setup 2 which his many opponents refused to play on since they wanted to use American sticks. There were very little we could do there but a coin was tossed, and both parties had to deal with the outcome.
The true controversy comes is not so much the stick situation but with the call with Bala's matches. First and foremost, I respect Bala's skill as a player, but I personally feel that he needs to work on his class if he wants to ever gain international respect. This is what happened (and I know 4leaf doesnt want me to post this but too bad):
4leaf was playing Bala, and like ReveLAtions, 4leaf started off incredibly strong. In fact, 4leaf was nearly straighting (OCVing) Bala with his Mature till Bala's last character who had about 30% life when all of a sudden Bala raised his hand saying his buttons had problem. This was on the last round of his last character (4leaf was still on his first), when he was about to get defeated.
Everyone watching was FURIOUS (no joke) that he would even suggest that on the 5th round. The Cali-Mexicans themselves, El Rosa, Mr. KOF, Reynald, Abe and myself were all in agreement that 4leaf should win that round by principle alone The 4 of us judges decided that we'll rule it in 4leaf's favor however, at the last minute 4leaf wanted to reset the game out of honor, which IMO, Bala should have declined out of good sportsmanship.
We all have played games with less than ideal settings, but true sportmanship and class that allows us to have the judgement to call something like that after the game. As this was a high profile match everyone was watching, and since many of us discussed this throughout the night, we all noticed that there were no signs of there's-something-wrong-with-my-button-look on his face. Afterwards, Mr KOF jumped on to test the joystick himself, nothing--just to prove a point. In fact, when Bala was testing the button after we "stopped" the match, it looked fine to us everytime he pressed the button. Then to add insult to injury, Bala grabs the only other Japanese stick (we all know he plays both but more comfortable with the American stick as he refused one whole tourney we had in AA, coz it was on Japanese sticks) making 4leaf playing on the American stick which we don't like playing on.
All in all, we're pretty disappointed in Bala, he may have the skill to be a champion but certainly lacks class. I think everyone lost respect for him that day.
EDIT: 4leaf wants to clear up he actually was the one to offer Bala the Japanese stick to Bala, my bad.
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Kane- But I did say that remember I said "without knowing the situation with the sticks etc" I put that asterik there.
Again all I am about is people giving someone a free pass just because he's from SBO or having heightened expectations because someone is from SBO. That's all I am saying nothing more nothing less. Just because they played at SBO and ranked top 4 doesn't mean they are going to go anywhere in the world and win for free that's the extent of my argument nothing more nothing less.
Also what you are talking about in the BALA situation many don't talk about it here (Because its happened in Mexico) but I have dealt with that issue before WITH SKATO..hence again I say I'm pretty much 97% done with arcade tournaments..I dealt with the same thing you guys are saying with the whole "The tournament was rigged" thing with Skato pressing the buttons very very hard thus breaking them and blaming the stick.
No one else had problems with the stick or buttons but Skato yet because of all that I have got a select few in Mexico saying "The tournament was rigged so that Skato wouldn't win."
So trust me..I know EXACTLY what you are talking about.
So trust me I know what that is like....
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Kane- But I did say that remember I said "without knowing the situation with the sticks etc" I put that asterik there.
Again all I am about is people giving someone a free pass just because he's from SBO. That's all I am saying nothing more nothing less. Just because they played at SBO and ranked top 4 doesn't mean they are going to go anywhere in the world and win for free that's the extent of my argument nothing more nothing less.
Nobody said he was free. Like I said, those who were there and are not just speculating, all agree that we have nothing but respect from him, you can ask The Answer yourself. As a SBO top 4 finalist, I think it would be naive to think that he's not a strong player at the very least.
Kane- But I did say that remember I said "without knowing the situation with the sticks etc" I put that asterik there.
Again all I am about is people giving someone a free pass just because he's from SBO. That's all I am saying nothing more nothing less. Just because they played at SBO and ranked top 4 doesn't mean they are going to go anywhere in the world and win for free that's the extent of my argument nothing more nothing less.
Also what you are talking about in the BALA situation many don't talk about it here (Because its happened in Mexico) but I have dealt with that issue before WITH SKATO..hence again I say I'm pretty much 97% done with arcade tournaments..I dealt with the same thing you guys are saying with the whole "The tournament was rigged" thing with Skato pressing the buttons very very hard thus breaking them and blaming the stick.
No one else had problems with the stick or buttons but Skato yet because of all that I have got a select few in Mexico saying "The tournament was rigged so that Skato wouldn't win."
So trust me..I know EXACTLY what you are talking about.
So trust me I know what that is like....
I have an opposite opinion about this; If this was played on the arcade then you don't even have the stick problems as they're more durable than the console. I don't quite agree with your no-more-arcade argument but it's ok to disagree. I suppose since it's kinda like a hybrid console/arcade system since it's technically on the arcade but for obvious reasons we couldn't lug the whole cab to Vegas and had to make due like it was a console.
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Kane- But I did say that remember I said "without knowing the situation with the sticks etc" I put that asterik there.
Again all I am about is people giving someone a free pass just because he's from SBO. That's all I am saying nothing more nothing less. Just because they played at SBO and ranked top 4 doesn't mean they are going to go anywhere in the world and win for free that's the extent of my argument nothing more nothing less.
Nobody said he was free. Like I said, those who were there and are not just speculating, all agree that we have nothing but respect from him, you can ask The Answer yourself. As a SBO top 4 finalist, I think it would be naive to think that he's not a strong player at the very least.
Well good, I heard a lot of comments in my inbox on youtube with people handing him the first place prize which I took as a slap to the face for both the USA and Mexico.. also read what I posted above what I edited about the stick situation, been there done that hence I quite frankly am not for arcade tournaments....
Kane in relation to your comment well again how to you address the BALA/Skato issue then? Stuff like that makes the organizers look bad to a degree as if the sticks they were using are faulty.
I don't like people saying the sticks I purchased or are using are not working when 99% of everyone else says they are fine. I'd rather just tell them to bring their own sticks that way I don't have to deal with this kind of stuff. Skato basically was mashing the sticks and buttons and we had to keep stopping to fix them over and over when again no one else had this problem BUT HIM..so again rather than keep dealing with this crap I'd rather just make future tournaments with Skato console only. I just don't want to deal with all that mess..bring your own stick and what happens is your fault!
Yes I agree it is okay to disagree lol.
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Kane- But I did say that remember I said "without knowing the situation with the sticks etc" I put that asterik there.
Again all I am about is people giving someone a free pass just because he's from SBO. That's all I am saying nothing more nothing less. Just because they played at SBO and ranked top 4 doesn't mean they are going to go anywhere in the world and win for free that's the extent of my argument nothing more nothing less.
Nobody said he was free. Like I said, those who were there and are not just speculating, all agree that we have nothing but respect from him, you can ask The Answer yourself. As a SBO top 4 finalist, I think it would be naive to think that he's not a strong player at the very least.
Well good, I heard a lot of comments in my inbox on youtube with people handing him the first place prize which I took as a slap to the face for both the USA and Mexico.. also read what I posted above what I edited about the stick situation, been there done that hence I quite frankly am not for arcade tournaments....
Kane in relation to your comment well again how to you address the BALA/Skato issue then? Stuff like that makes the organizers look bad to a degree as if the sticks they were using are faulty.
I don't like people saying the sticks I purchased or are using are not working when 99% of everyone else says they are fine. I'd rather just tell them to bring their own sticks that way I don't have to deal with this kind of stuff.
Yes I agree it is okay to disagree lol.
The only difference, the buttons as far as we could tell were not faulty. We played on it before, and we played on it afterwards. I think, if a tournament must be played in such setup, then we needed multiple back ups which we did not have and for that I take responsibility.
We couldn't just bring sticks for the first setup, since it was specifically modded to use printer cables, you should remember as it was the same one from ReveLAtions (also the setup that the controversy occurred on). The second setup could take any ps2 stick.
As for what to do, I dunno anything about the Skato incident so I can't comment. However, like most tourneys, if there's something wrong with your stick you need to call it early in the first round, at the very latest the beginning of round 2. I learned it the hard way in the ignition tourney when I played Nocturnal and my stick was sticky from all the soda that was spilled onto it. You play on if you don't call it, that's it and take the results like a man.
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Kane- But I did say that remember I said "without knowing the situation with the sticks etc" I put that asterik there.
Again all I am about is people giving someone a free pass just because he's from SBO. That's all I am saying nothing more nothing less. Just because they played at SBO and ranked top 4 doesn't mean they are going to go anywhere in the world and win for free that's the extent of my argument nothing more nothing less.
Nobody said he was free. Like I said, those who were there and are not just speculating, all agree that we have nothing but respect from him, you can ask The Answer yourself. As a SBO top 4 finalist, I think it would be naive to think that he's not a strong player at the very least.
Well good, I heard a lot of comments in my inbox on youtube with people handing him the first place prize which I took as a slap to the face for both the USA and Mexico.. also read what I posted above what I edited about the stick situation, been there done that hence I quite frankly am not for arcade tournaments....
Kane in relation to your comment well again how to you address the BALA/Skato issue then? Stuff like that makes the organizers look bad to a degree as if the sticks they were using are faulty.
I don't like people saying the sticks I purchased or are using are not working when 99% of everyone else says they are fine. I'd rather just tell them to bring their own sticks that way I don't have to deal with this kind of stuff.
Yes I agree it is okay to disagree lol.
The only difference, the buttons as far as we could tell were not faulty. We played on it before, and we played on it afterwards. I think, if a tournament must be played in such setup, then we needed multiple back ups which we did not have and for that I take responsibility.
We couldn't just bring sticks for the first setup, since it was specifically modded to use printer cables, you should remember as it was the same one from ReveLAtions (also the setup that the controversy occurred on). The second setup could take any ps2 stick.
As for what to do, I dunno anything about the Skato incident so I can't comment. However, like most tourneys, if there's something wrong with your stick you need to call it early in the first round, at the very latest the beginning of round 2. I learned it the hard way in the ignition tourney when I played Nocturnal and my stick was sticky from all the soda that was spilled onto it. You play on if you don't call it, that's it and take the results like a man.
I agree with what you say 100%, but people won't call the stick not working until in the middle of the match or if it's "not to their favor" you and I both know that happens so you just have to roll with the punches.
I also remember the "discussions" about the ReveLAtions sticks lagging (Me, Reynald, John, RJ and Oscar were eating at the Japanese restaurant late at night before I left that morning and that's what Reynald and John were saying); and with that said I was empathizing with Oscar, yourself and all the organizers of the event because again all it takes is something that small to cast a cloud on the entire event... =(
So yeah it's quite a hassle to have 5 backups for whatever you have and then have to take responsibility because of one incident.
I applaud those that deal with that but that's a lot to deal with for me personally..
Because something as simple as that undermines all the hard work you put into a tournament as an organizer...and that's what sucks about it...
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I just wanted to express how much fun I had at this tournament. For me it was the high point of the entire Evo Championship. But it wasn't a great event just because KOF XIII is a good game. It was made great by the people who participated in it. I was worried I was going to look stupid because of my lack of experience at the game. But instead everyone made me feel really welcome. I feel that I made a lot of friends over the past weekend and now I'm all the more motivated to bring myself to the level of skill required to play on a more competitive level with everyone else.
Thanks to everyone who worked so hard to make this happen. Hopefully next year KOF XIII will be a main event. Because if I'm able, I totally plan to come back.
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I just wanted to express how much fun I had at this tournament. For me it was the high point of the entire Evo Championship. But it wasn't a great event just because KOF XIII is a good game. It was made great by the people who participated in it. I was worried I was going to look stupid because of my lack of experience at the game. But instead everyone made me feel really welcome. I feel that I made a lot of friends over the past weekend and now I'm all the more motivated to bring myself to the level of skill required to play on a more competitive level with everyone else.
Thanks to everyone who worked so hard to make this happen. Hopefully next year KOF XIII will be a main event. Because if I'm able, I totally plan to come back.
Definitely glad to hear this. We all hope that you, along with anyone new to KOF or non-members of the DC community, came away with a positive experience. It's what the game and the community really needs in order to make the game and the future a success. A big thank you to Atlus as well, definitely, for putting in the time and effort for the XIII showcasing. Keep playing and spreading the word. As small as a role you think that may be, it is appreciated by all of us.
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I too, had a hell of a good time, got to meet Xian, and incredibly cool and noble person, and Salim, also a very nice guy, and to play with a lot of competitive players.
I got to play the producer of KOF13 and I stupidly didn't take a picture with him.... i really regret it.
I beat Poongko in KOF13 hahahaha.....
Was good to see MrKof Again after 2 years, and Kunio once more. And I rally got to meet all the Cali-Mex and LA guys, because 2 years ago, we just chatted a while, now, we are literally a Familiy xD
I think this Side Tourney was a great event and really got the peoples attention, so hopefully Next year it will be a Main event, and be it or not, I will be there for sure!
Thanks again Oscar, Kane317 and Giby for making this possible, the experience of meeting and playing new people is unique.
I'm leaving happy and satisfied, I'm leaving with more than what I expected. Thanks.
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thank you so much to oscar, giby, kane, and everyone else who helped to organize the tournament this past weekend!! it was so great to see so many incredible players and so many hype matches!
this was my first kof13 tournament, and i was humbled (read: completely destroyed), but i walked away with even more determination to get better for the future, so ggs to everyone I played!
also, the console version of the game was incredible! the balance changes were really noticeable, the new stages are beautiful, and it's great! big thanks to atlas for representing!!
top 8 for AE was sick as fuck (latif is my hero!!!), but despite that, the poor quality of AE and marvel was very apparent in the top 32 for both games, in terms of game balance and depth of strategy. i personally believe that when this game comes out for console in october, people will react to how great it is, there is simply no way to ignore it. I am sooooo hype right now!!!!!
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The true controversy comes is not so much the stick situation but with the call with Bala's matches. First and foremost, I respect Bala's skill as a player, but I personally feel that he needs to work on his class if he wants to ever gain international respect. This is what happened (and I know 4leaf doesnt want me to post this but too bad):
4leaf was playing Bala, and like ReveLAtions, 4leaf started off incredibly strong. In fact, 4leaf was nearly straighting (OCVing) Bala with his Mature till Bala's last character who had about 30% life when all of a sudden Bala raised his hand saying his buttons had problem. This was on the last round of his last character (4leaf was still on his first), when he was about to get defeated.
Everyone watching was FURIOUS (no joke) that he would even suggest that on the 5th round. The Cali-Mexicans themselves, El Rosa, Mr. KOF, Reynald, Abe and myself were all in agreement that 4leaf should win that round by principle alone The 4 of us judges decided that we'll rule it in 4leaf's favor however, at the last minute 4leaf wanted to reset the game out of honor, which IMO, Bala should have declined out of good sportsmanship.
We all have played games with less than ideal settings, but true sportmanship and class that allows us to have the judgement to call something like that after the game. As this was a high profile match everyone was watching, and since many of us discussed this throughout the night, we all noticed that there were no signs of there's-something-wrong-with-my-button-look on his face. Afterwards, Mr KOF jumped on to test the joystick himself, nothing--just to prove a point. In fact, when Bala was testing the button after we "stopped" the match, it looked fine to us everytime he pressed the button. Then to add insult to injury, Bala grabs the only other Japanese stick (we all know he plays both but more comfortable with the American stick as he refused one whole tourney we had in AA, coz it was on Japanese sticks) making 4leaf playing on the American stick which we don't like playing on.
All in all, we're pretty disappointed in Bala, he may have the skill to be a champion but certainly lacks class. I think everyone lost respect for him that day.
EDIT: 4leaf wants to clear up he actually was the one to offer Bala the Japanese stick to Bala, my bad.
Most disappointing to hear that, sad to see stuff like that. Hopefully it won't be the same people getting top 4 every tounament when the game drops.
I'm glad everyone had a good time at EVO. I'm sure the game will be a main game next year. With all the upsets happening in AE as well as new games, 2012 will be much more competitive than this years
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so hopefully Next year it will be a Main event
Agreed.
KOF 13 @ EVO 2012: I BELIEVE! YOU BELIEVE! WE BELIEVE!
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The whole entire trip was more than we could ask for. Yes there were speed bumps, yes we couldn't stream the top 4/8 like we had hope, and yes we wanted to have more exhibitions matches but all we sought out to display how amazing the game is and we accomplished it. Throughout the weekend we noticed loads of people interested in the game including some pretty well known FG top players such as Juicebox, RF, LI Joe, PoongKo and so forth. I cannot even fathom where the scene we'll be 6-12 months down the line and I think with the console release, along with all the rebalances, will really make this an instant classic along with '98 and '02.
The console version was amazing, it far exceeded even my best expectations with the balances. Thinking back, I didn't know what to expect, I knew that we were privately invited to test the game on Thursday to see if it was fit for a tourney--at the time, all I could think about is that I hope Saiki and Billy weren't broken. It never even occurred to me that the entire cast was rebalanced.
I apologize for not posting more videos. The first day I thought I was not allowed to record anything and by the second day it was open to the public so there was no way to really test anything as everyone was playing on versus. It was probably for the best since Atlus has kindly asked us to remove any video uploaded and allow it to be "reviewed" first which of course I have now done.
They side tourney was LONG, it spanned a cool 12+ hours and we even had to take the grand finals up to the hotel room. All 4 of us staff were pretty beat and we didn't get our first meal until after the grand finals haha (I really wanted to play more console but I couldn't really leave the area either).
I've told some of the guys already, I'm done with v1.1 for now--console is leaps and bounds ahead of v1.1 that it just doesn't feel right investing anymore time on it. The next 12 weeks is going to be "fun" waiting for it to come out =(
Make no mistake, this isn't a negative post but in fact quite the opposite, it's really a compliment on how well made the console version and I know I'm not alone on this.
I want to thank Atlus again and again for putting on a great show. I cannot imagine a better company in handling the US publishing of XIII.
El Rosa, it's good seeing you again after 2 years as well, I cannot wait till you move up to SD hopefully in 6 months, we'll be definitely playing each other a lot as I have a lot to learn from you!
Salim, I still cannot believe you remembered who I used when I went to visit you in 2001 lol. It was good seeing you again as well and I hope we can play more in the future!
I'm actually off to eat dinner with No.17 before he leaves so I'm going to cut this short. Evo was off the hook and we're all going to see you guys next year, no excuses!
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Xian who plays a typical Singapore/HK layout of:
A B C
D
Oh snap!!! That reminds me of the setup I had to use when I was chilling in HK and certain parts of Korea. It was like this though:
[A] [C]
[D]
Playing as Guile on SvC was still managable though... Any KOF though, yeah it took some getting used to.
Anyway, good stuff to all you cats!!! This is definitely a sign of good things to come!!!
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Okay folks, this thread is closed and moved to the archives. Please continue discussion in the Evo Results thread and take a hike: http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?topic=1130.msg22752#msg22752 (http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?topic=1130.msg22752#msg22752)
:)