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Title: Next updated franchise
Post by: solidshark on August 06, 2010, 01:05:47 AM
I'd vote for either Last Blade or Samurai Shodown. Last Blade because it's unknown to most gamers which is a shame; Samurai Spirits because I'd like to see XII/XIII-esque sprite work for it.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: Parapets on August 06, 2010, 02:11:55 AM
I've never played Last Blade, so I can't comment on that. I played Samurai Shodown a little bit, but I didn't like it. Garou: Mark of the Wolves is one of my favorite games right now, though. I'd love to see a new edition of that in HD.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: Running Wild on August 06, 2010, 07:39:27 AM
I voted Fatal Fury. 2011 is gonna be the franchises 20th anniversary. I am gonna be very disappointed if SNK doesn't do a new game for such an event.

If it's another pachinko game I am gonna rage.
(http://a.imageshack.us/img230/9224/highresfatalfurywv0.jpg)
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: Judge Fudge on August 07, 2010, 05:31:12 AM
I love Fatal Fury, but I'm going to go with Art of Fighting on this one.  AOF needs more players!
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: solidshark on August 07, 2010, 06:13:05 PM
AOF needs more players!

Very true Fudge
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: nilcam on August 07, 2010, 08:11:11 PM
I'd love to see a new SamSho but after that 3D one, I don't have much faith in it so I voted Fatal Fury/Garou. Realistically, I don't think SNK could afford to go with the same labor-intensive graphical style of KoF so I'd hope for GG style sprites. The game should either follow up Mark of the Wolves or the Real Bout series.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: Cibernetico on August 08, 2010, 03:50:44 AM
What I think would be their biggest success is to consider updating the Fatal Fury series but in a dream match way. Fix some of the bugs from the Garou system and add some other things form the previous games and you have the makings of a game people would love to death.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: SAB-CA on August 09, 2010, 01:05:31 PM
I voted for another franchise, and that one would be Neo Geo Battle Coliseum.

It would be a great stepping stone to making characters towards updating a load of their classic series, it'd give them a much wider range of characters to draw from, and it'd let fans of each series at least see some of their favorite characters in H(igher)D.

It's also my prefered SNKP-born tag system, and I felt it did a good job of making each character feel like they retained their own gameplay (Like with Haomarou being a powerhouse, or K' still being rather versitile), or had sell made revisions (Tung Fu Rue is awesome on NGBC, and Hanzo and Fuma feel quite well updated.)

Maybe we'd even get to see a few Rage of Dragons, or Fighters History characters thrown in, for good measure! Jones and Billy Lee VS Mizonguchi and Zazie... Abobo VS Mastorious! It'd be really interesting to see such characters get another chance to shine, just like the original NGBC brought back characters such as Lee Pai Long, Mudman, and Ashura.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: Diavle on August 09, 2010, 03:04:33 PM
Metal Slug.

SNK has driven it into the ground but the first and second are simply amazing, still some of the best 2D visuals and gameplay to this day. Its also the only non-fighter SNK franchise that has legs imo.

SNK will prolly opt for the safest bet, KOF14, for its next fighter rather than waste resources building another one from the ground up at the calibre of the KOF refresh. It would be the smart thing to do.

All being said and done I would rather SNK make something completely new. They have amazing ppl working for them and I would love to see what original ideas and characters they can come up with, instead of constantly having to build on the past.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: LouisCipher on August 14, 2010, 11:12:42 PM

(http://a.imageshack.us/img230/9224/highresfatalfurywv0.jpg)

Damn dude. That's a nice pic. Yours? If they did any fighter in that style then sign me up. I voted for Last Blade. I like the gameplay (aside from broken shit) and I think it's a pretty unique weapon fighter, and would probably be the most successful for them if done right. Know what I mean? If they tweak it just right, players of equal skill can do well if they play it at a slower pace and know how to use parries, and players that like a faster pace can get into it too.

Honorable mention to Art of Fighting, but I don't think it will happen. It was never a huge franchise like Fatal Fury, Samurai Shodown, and of course KOF. I'd like to see them develop a fighter with similar mechanics to AOF; and by that I mean using Taunts to drain opponents special meter, special moves costing meter, and charging meter. Those elements really make the first two AOF stand out from the rest.

What I think would be their biggest success is to consider updating the Fatal Fury series but in a dream match way. Fix some of the bugs from the Garou system and add some other things form the previous games and you have the makings of a game people would love to death.

I could go for that, but I don't think JD should be in it. And when you take away JD you remove everything Garou had going for it (aside from the removal of the 'slide'). I think a new FF modeled more on Real Bout 2 could work really well. I also hate the poke priority in Garou.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: Running Wild on August 15, 2010, 02:29:55 PM
That screen is from the Fatal Fury video pachinko game. It was produced for Fatal Fury's 15th anniversary I believe, and is basically SNK's slap to the face to Garou fans.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: LouisCipher on August 15, 2010, 04:10:35 PM
Ah well, there's still hope. I can't imagine SNKP ignore Fatal Fury, their first big hit. It would be like Capcom ignoring Mega Man. Sure they put him in shitty games, but they've never ignored one of their first big successes.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: JT_Chill on August 30, 2010, 01:38:46 AM
I hope with next year being the Twentieth Anniversary, they will finish off Garou 2 and release it.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: MUSOLINI on August 30, 2010, 04:23:06 PM
that ff pic looks crappy. its almost as bad as ssf2hd.

that being said, id hope for a new SS but a really really pretty and good one.

after this it could be rb3, motw2 or lb3 for all i care. all awesome. though motw2 would be my least prefered of the 3 (mainly cause the system is too much like kof/sf cept without a team). rb had a totally revamped system (and way better characters than motw). and the same goes for lb. if theres one game i really wouldnt wanna see (and that would probably put snkp back in bancruptcy) is aof. game was always terrible, and the characters have the least amount of fans over the world (cause most of the cast sucked).
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: Nocturnal on August 31, 2010, 11:03:49 AM
I voted for a new FF game. I think FF would probably be the next best choice. Either MOTW 2 or RB3 or just a FF game itself. LB3 would be nice but I highly doubt it would happen. AoF I really don't see happening at all. Not enough fanbase for it. New SS 2D game would be nice. SNK has a few options so anything is up in the air.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: The Fluke on September 02, 2010, 05:20:49 AM
Metal Slug.

SNK has driven it into the ground but the first and second are simply amazing, still some of the best 2D visuals and gameplay to this day. Its also the only non-fighter SNK franchise that has legs imo.

I don't care for metal slug 2, it wasn't bad but the first one was simply perfect (to me) so the sequels didn't stand a chance, atleast back when i played the first few. Anyways, metal slug 7 is the latest game in the series that i played and it was pretty good. It's not the great classic that the original was (still is), but it is playworthy. And anyday i wanna relive the glory of metal slug, i just replay the first game, it is awesome, i even love the credits.

I however voted for art of fighting as it is as far as story involvement goes the best fighting game i've seen. I have no idea what the story would be, or if there would even really be a point to making another sequel, but hell, i'd buy it if they made it.

I do agree that fatal fury probably has a far greater chance at success, either series is fine with me.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: Giby on September 02, 2010, 08:13:43 AM
Nam-1975, Magician Lord or King of the Monsters, mainly NAM!!!
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: Karate chop on September 02, 2010, 03:49:18 PM
Wasnt Magican lord made by ADK? Anyway I voted for Last blade, I feel it deserve another chance. Not a graphical update but rather a UM styled remix.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: MUSOLINI on September 02, 2010, 04:28:12 PM
MS1 > MSX > MS3 > the rest.

the biggest problem of the MS games is that the neo couldnt handle more sprites at the same time. this meant that at harder levels and difficulties the enemies needed more and more bullets. at the hardest levels you didnt have any more bombs left and only your hand gun firing 5 minutes straight to kill 1 boss (while you sometimes get a bonus set of bombs or special gun) was just fucked up. especially with 2 and x where you had to shoot those damn trains for what?  

if MS actually upgraded in gameplay and the difficulty bumped up by having more enemies and enemy vehicles instead of them taking 20x more bullets to kill would be the shit. character specific moves, slides (yea i know these were in the latest one), commando style tricks like having a rope & hook where you can throw it and hang and and what not. the game needs to be reinvented but still keep the different vehicles and most gameplay elements. the pacing of ms1 was just brilliant.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: Delta on September 02, 2010, 07:30:48 PM
I agree with Metal Slug being the next updated franchise, it's one of SNKP most known series, apart of KOF and SS.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: jinxhand on October 26, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
I'm surprised there's no MOTW2/FF petitions... I'm pretty sure at this point, SNK would start listening... Namco, Arcsys/Aksys, and Capcom are doing the same, and even requesting petitions so their bosses can see that the fans want 'X' game... I love the LB series and have some love for AOF, but FF needs an addition to bring the (KOF) players back to one of the places where it all started...
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: sibarraz on October 27, 2010, 01:24:29 PM
Wasnt Magican lord made by ADK? Anyway I voted for Last blade, I feel it deserve another chance. Not a graphical update but rather a UM styled remix.

I think that SNK now has all the rights for ADK

Obviously SNKP will SWERVE US and release the long awaited sequel of Agressors of Dark Kombat 2!

Soy el hombre mas fuerte del mundo!

I honestly I'm started to get tired of KOF, I want to see the sequeal of MOTW, or even better, the sequel of RB2

I still don't get why AOF is mentioned in every singe thread and even has his own sub forum, the series was never that popular(except art of fighting 2) the first one is still treated as a SF CLONE even though the only resemblances wwith both games are the design of characters, and the third one is maybe the most beautiful game in the Neo Geo but with the typical gameplay of an AOF that feels really stiff.

Let's face it, nobody cares for AOF, even SNK seems to care
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: solidshark on October 28, 2010, 07:01:07 PM
I still don't get why AOF is mentioned in every singe thread and even has his own sub forum, the series was never that popular(except art of fighting 2) the first one is still treated as a SF CLONE even though the only resemblances wwith both games are the design of characters, and the third one is maybe the most beautiful game in the Neo Geo but with the typical gameplay of an AOF that feels really stiff.

Let's face it, nobody cares for AOF, even SNK seems to care

Some do care, and AOF did a lot of things that I'd wish more fighters (espeically 3D) would try to do over time, like visible damage, powering up, or limiting specials and one super to a bar. I thought it odd how SF4 could've taken advantage of visible damaging with 3D graphics and didn't. Using those elements and re-working the engine to make it less stiff (and new moves) SNK could make something really great out of an AOF4.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: jinxhand on October 28, 2010, 07:28:14 PM
The AOF characters really didn't get good til they hit other series... My favorite Robert is in NGBC... My favorite Yuri is in KOF2K1... They could do an AOF4, but more characters need to be exposed imo... SNK just uses the popular ones, but there are other ones who need at least some KOF exposure...
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: sibarraz on October 28, 2010, 08:20:56 PM
I still don't get why AOF is mentioned in every singe thread and even has his own sub forum, the series was never that popular(except art of fighting 2) the first one is still treated as a SF CLONE even though the only resemblances wwith both games are the design of characters, and the third one is maybe the most beautiful game in the Neo Geo but with the typical gameplay of an AOF that feels really stiff.

Let's face it, nobody cares for AOF, even SNK seems to care

Some do care, and AOF did a lot of things that I'd wish more fighters (espeically 3D) would try to do over time, like visible damage, powering up, or limiting specials and one super to a bar. I thought it odd how SF4 could've taken advantage of visible damaging with 3D graphics and didn't. Using those elements and re-working the engine to make it less stiff (and new moves) SNK could make something really great out of an AOF4.


But still, it will not caught that much attention, even though I always thought that if SNK one day wants to try a 3d game, AOF should be the game, the juggles system in AOF 3 was a good idea poorly executed

And about AOF characters needing more exposure, The problem is that all the characters from AOF are horrible designs, with the exceptions of all the characters that already had appeared on KOF (And Eiji was at the beggining lame too, somehow in KOF they made him more cool)

The rest of the cast from the first 2 AOF games are generic as hell, and SNK reached an even higher level of generic designs with AOF 3, the only solution to made those characters appear again is reboot and change their designs.

The only character that I could see working in this moment are Robert's bodyguard and maybe Todo, this last one thanks to Kasumi
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: jinxhand on October 28, 2010, 09:45:27 PM
Eiji was beefed in KOF98 and then even more in KOFXI... A few other characters got beefed up as well... I personally liked how Ryo became Mr. Karate and his style slightly changed... Takuma seems to have a complete overhaul imo...

Mr. Big is pimp... Plus he's been a threat in every game he's in... He and Kasumi seem to be the popular add-ons aside from the usual AOF Ryo, Robert, Takuma, and Yuri...
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: sibarraz on October 29, 2010, 12:49:46 AM
And you're forgeting king

There's a reason of why the last debuting AOF characters were Kasumi and Mr Big in 96 (well, and Young Geese in NeoWave, but this was an exception), while Fatal Fury has debuting characters in almost every single entry (hell, even Hwa friggin Jai make it to the game) at this point I see more chances to see Lawrence Blood, Cheng Hinzan or Hon Fu than any other AOF character


Well, I'm still expecting the long awaited debut of Michael Max and Axel Hawk how will create a boxing gym team with Heavy D, maybe Mickie just to make more sense
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: Adnan on December 22, 2010, 02:30:54 AM
Also, since it's supposed to be the Fatal Fury series' 20th Anniversary...next year, I think...we can only expect more Fatal Fury characters lol. I'm convinced that a Tung Fu Rue- Jin Chonshu- Kid Vegeta Jin Chonrei team would be cool, now that they've brought Hwa Jai back from the grave.

As far as AOF characters go...the only ones I feel have any chance of returning are Lee Pai Long (if they're going for a Sennin/Old Masters team without wanting to move Takuma or Chin from where they are now, he'd fit in kinda nicely. He also was in NGBC...) and maybe John Crawley (Heidern - Whip - John as an alternate army-themed team to Ikari Warriors team?), although perhaps that's stretching it a bit. Also, wasn't AOF the game with the whip girl...called Lenny? ._.

@Sibarraz: SNK almost has enough boxers to make their own dedicated boxing game/based fighting game lol. Vanessa, Rick Stroud, SHEN WOO, Heavy D!, Mickey, Michael Max, Axel Hawk, Rob Python (Buriki One)...that's all I can think of...
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: KBlackNoah on January 05, 2011, 05:50:24 PM
Gals Fighters !!!  ;a
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: Custle on January 07, 2011, 05:04:10 PM
I voted for Fatal Fury, although I want new game from every series :)

After KOF, Fatal Fury is my favorite SNK fighter series. I just love that plane switch system and the characters.

I've read that SNK was almost finished making sequel to Mark of the Wolves for Neo Geo, but they dropped support after that. I also read an artilce from few years back that they are going to use graphics that sounded like modern KOF games (XII and XIII). But they are going take their time making it, because there is so low demand for the sequel. I also heard that there would be new character, who is Joe Higashi's aprentice and she would grappler.

But I still hope that game would be released. And the plane system is must for that game.
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: Eripio69 on January 08, 2011, 12:34:51 AM
At this point I vote for a flawless online KOF XIII
Title: Re: Next updated franchise
Post by: marchefelix on January 10, 2011, 07:27:01 AM
I voted other franchise. I want a new Metal Slug. With Mars People, because, with the exception of the first Metal Slug, all the good Metal Slug games have Mars People in them.