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King of Fighters XIII => Character Discussion => Ex Kyo => Topic started by: desmond_kof on January 12, 2012, 08:28:04 PM
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http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=NESTS_Kyo_%28XIII%29#Combos (http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=NESTS_Kyo_%28XIII%29#Combos)
If you got em, we want them. Mid-screen, corner, mention how many stocks and drives it takes, share damage values, if it ends in a hard knockdown or not, if its character specific, etc. It would be best to keep things on the more practical side, but if you have anything crazy feel free to share.
Post them up, share them and they will be added and you will be credited on the wiki.
thanks in advance.
EDIT: This is what I have so far:
Mid-Screen
No Stock, No Drive Gauge -
- d.B x 2, s.B, df+D = 167 dmg, 5 hits
- d.B x 2, s.B, dp+C = 180 dmg, 5 hits
- d.B, s.B, qcf+B, rdp+B = 188 dmg, 5 hits, hard knockdown
- d.B x 2, s.B, [qcf+A, qcf+A, B] = 200 dmg, 6 hits
- d.B, s.B, [qcf+A, qcf+A, A] = 180 dmg, 6 hits, hard knockdown
A jump attack can be added before these following combos
- s.C, f+B, hcb+K = 250 dmg, 5 hits, hard knockdown
- s.C, f+B, rdp+B = 166 dmg, 3 hits, hard knockdown
- s.C, f+B, [qcf+C, hcb+P, f+P, dp+P] = 257 dmg, 6 hits
- s.C, df+D = 162 dmg, 3 hits
- s.C, [qcf+A, qcf+A, B] = 199 dmg, 4 hits
- s.C, [qcf+C, hcb+P, f+C, dp+C] = 260 dmg, 6 hits
- s.C, rdp+B = 136 dmg, 2 hits, hard knockdown
- s.C, hcb+D = 225 dmg, 4 hits, hard knockdown
No Stock, 1+ Drive Gauge -
- d.B x 2, s.B, [qcf+A, qcf+A] [DC], rdp+B = 195 dmg, 6 hits, hard knockdown
- d.B x 2, s.B, [qcf+A, qcf+A] [DC], hcb+K = 269 dmg, 8 hits, hard knockdown
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A good corner BnB that I find useful for him is Close C, F.B, QCF AC, QCF A, HCB A A(DC) QCF D D QCF A, QCF A, HCB A A. I don't know the damage off of the top of my head, but it does around 400. It's one meter, half of the drive bar, and a hard knockdown although I don't think you'll have many oki options if you opt for the punch OTG.
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- s.C, f+B, [qcf+C, hcb+P, f+P, dp+P] = 257 dmg, 6 hits
hint, this one works only on point blank range, otherwise the "f+P" follow up whiff and it's punish time! in that case remember to use hcb+K to great dmg and easy hit confirm.
Of course if it's a punish moment on a whiff special and you can run near the opponent use the version without the axe kick command normal.
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A good corner BnB that I find useful for him is Close C, F.B, QCF AC, QCF A, HCB A A(DC) QCF D D QCF A, QCF A, HCB A A. I don't know the damage off of the top of my head, but it does around 400. It's one meter, half of the drive bar, and a hard knockdown although I don't think you'll have many oki options if you opt for the punch OTG.
Off the top of my head I know that with a j.C in front of it, you get 444 damage.
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- s.C, f+B, [qcf+C, hcb+P, f+P, dp+P] = 257 dmg, 6 hits
hint, this one works only on point blank range, otherwise the "f+P" follow up whiff and it's punish time! in that case remember to use hcb+K to great dmg and easy hit confirm.
Of course if it's a punish moment on a whiff special and you can run near the opponent use the version without the axe kick command normal.
You're right about that, I had a little trouble getting all the hits, so it's a combo I would probably stay away from.
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Yeah, unless you just want to use just cl.C into C Rekka Chain, it's best just to use cl.C, f.B xx HCB+K at all times until you get Drive/Meter.
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A good corner BnB that I find useful for him is Close C, F.B, QCF AC, QCF A, HCB A A(DC) QCF D D QCF A, QCF A, HCB A A. I don't know the damage off of the top of my head, but it does around 400. It's one meter, half of the drive bar, and a hard knockdown although I don't think you'll have many oki options if you opt for the punch OTG.
You can get a little more damage out of this, and any other combo that has QCF+D, D, in the corner by juggling with QCF+A, QCF+A, wait, QCF+A, HCB+A, A instead of just doing one hit of the rekka and then ground punch chain.
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Would someone tell me the most practical and damaging HD combo found as of now for him?
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http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?topic=1657.msg41036#msg41036 (http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?topic=1657.msg41036#msg41036)
This one milesw, when you are suited to do the rekka dp cancel with the hyper drive shortcut (in small words, the f+C after qcf+C) it's the best around. the rekka cancel into rekka (alternate A and C) eat hyper drive bar but still can do the job if you prefer something really pratical (but of course, not great damaging).
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If you do hd combo to rekkas to qcfx2+AC to neomax, you do just as much damage as if you would not do any rekkas and just do the first normals into super to neomax. If you only do rekkas to neomax you do like 100 more damage than with no rekkas. (first hit of A and C rekkas cancelled into each other.) Doing the hcb+C followup on the C hit to save HD meter is also pointless as it doesn't do more damage either.
So C-rekka into dp, dat practice mode. My problem is I get either of the supers somewhere in the combo, but if you can react to it and just max cancel it, it's still okay.
EDIT: Just noticed Mazinkaiser's link. This shortcut REALLY helps and now I only get random shoryus instead cause I miss the timing.
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KoF XIII : K' & Nests Syle Kyo Combo Movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zov9EOSSAVs#ws)
Some very flashy combos in this vid 3:50
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Corner combo I have been using after jump-ins. This combo DOES NOT work after the linking standing C from cr. B if I remember correctly.
s.C, f+B, QCF C, HCB P,(DC) QCF D, QCF A, QCF A HCB P P It does really good dmg, I'll look up the number later, and only costs a drive.
I just haven't seen anyone post it up yet or anyone else use it.
Before people as, it always works in the corner as long as you land with a jump in, or you start the combo with s. C, I'll have to check again but I swear it doesn't work after the link.
I have a some other stuff to post up, just curious to see what everyone thinks of this one.
Also the HD combo I have been running is similar except (QCF C, HCB P, (DC) QCF A) X3 then on the last rep DC the HCB P into QCF D then super into neomax, or one rekka into neomax. I personally like this combo because it has corner carry, it looks kinda cool :) , and it really doesn't do that much less dmg than the C rekka to C DP over and over again, and i think its a lot easier to do consistently in match.
I'll come back with some hard numbers tonight and combo transcripts for the stuff I have been working on.
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s.C, f+B, QCF C, HCB P,(DC) QCF D, QCF A, QCF A HCB P P It does really good dmg, I'll look up the number later, and only costs a drive.
I just haven't seen anyone post it up yet or anyone else use it.
Yeah, actually we have 3 little variations of that combo on our wiki HERE (http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=NESTS_Kyo_%28XIII%290):
- j.C, s.C, f+B, qcf+C, hcb+C [DC] qcf+D~D, qcf+C (wait) qcf+A, hcb+A, A = 361 damage, hard knockdown
- s.C, f.B, qcf+C [DC] qcf+D~D, qcf+A, [qcf+A, hcb+P, P] = 339 damage, hard knockdown
- d.B d.B s.B, qcf+A [DC] qcf+D~D, qcf+A, [qcf+A, hcb+P, P] = 296 damage, hard knockdown
Also the HD combo I have been running is similar except (QCF C, HCB P, (DC) QCF A) X3 then on the last rep DC the HCB P into QCF D then super into neomax, or one rekka into neomax. I personally like this combo because it has corner carry, it looks kinda cool :) , and it really doesn't do that much less dmg than the C rekka to C DP over and over again, and i think its a lot easier to do consistently in match.
I tried the C rekka to C dp and I kept getting supers, so I thought ppl were doing C rekkas into hcb D, lol.
I'll come back with some hard numbers tonight and combo transcripts for the stuff I have been working on.
Please share what you have with us. Nice name btw, hahaha.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oow3EOhiBMw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oow3EOhiBMw)
meh just a few combos I did with him when he came pretty old obviously.. but I kinda realized I was never going back to do any more with this game as it is.. so there ya go/may as well post the rest of the crap I had on tape kinda vibe...
It actually is somehow possible to get 3 regular fire punch chain combos. But I have no idea why it fucking works. It must have to be some perfect godly timing. To the point that when ever ive gotten it I just assume the game has messed up. Obviously whatever the case not shown in this but yea.. sure go figure that one out..
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I enjoy watching all your combos. I seem to find something new in all of them, for every game you play!
Can anyone help me figure out this combo: Console KOF XIII: EX Kyo 4Bars 100% Combo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fD_w855vco#ws)
As I commented, I'm having trouble keeping up with the input display. It seems like hes doing some sort of shortcut? I tried DP into orochinagi and they don't go near high enough. If anyone could explain whats going on in this combo I'd appreciate it a lot, thanks.
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I enjoy watching all your combos. I seem to find something new in all of them, for every game you play!
Can anyone help me figure out this combo: Console KOF XIII: EX Kyo 4Bars 100% Combo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fD_w855vco#ws)
As I commented, I'm having trouble keeping up with the input display. It seems like hes doing some sort of shortcut? I tried DP into orochinagi and they don't go near high enough. If anyone could explain whats going on in this combo I'd appreciate it a lot, thanks.
Looks like:
j.C, s.D, HD activation, s.D, qcf+A, qcf+A [HDC] dp+A [HDC] qcb~hcf+A, dp+A [HDC] qcb~hcf+A (slight hold before connecting with this), dp+C [HDC] qcf+C, dp+C [HDC] qcf+A, dp+A [HDC] qcfx2+BD
And for both DPs to Orochinagi it does look like he's using the hcb~f+A, qcf+A shortcut.
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any idea or trick to do
onyaki xx orochinagi (another ) oniyaki??
in other words
1-is there a short cut in caneling the dp to orochinagi not the Mu-Shiki...??
2-how can i do the dp after the orochinagi..??
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HCB,F+P for the DP and then QCF+P to cancel into Orochinagi.
Only way to get the DP to juggle after Orochinagi is to do the first DP off of a juggle to begin with. Usually off of the A Rekka, A Rekka chain.
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Wanted to provide some input as to a slight variation on the 2-bar HD combo in the NicoNico combo video. After your activation, getting a slight move forward from the activation allows you to do cl.C, df+D (1) and allow dp+C to connect to start dp+C HDC qcf+C loops. I do this at the moment as my anywhere 2-bar HD, and it gets 779 from cl.C, a little more than before:
cl.C, df+D [HD activate and allow the dash to put you closer to the opponent], cl.C, df+D (1), [dp+C HDC qcf+C]x2, dp+C HDC qcf+C > hcb+C [HDC] qcf+A > qcf+A > K > Neomax
Otherwise near a corner up to around the start position, still do the combo starting with A rekkas into dp+C HDC qcf+C loops as in the NicoNico video for 795 from cl.C.
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Hey there guys, thought I'd post the Rinomoto 1 meter 1 drive corner punish combo and a small find in practice yesterday. Close enough to the corner (maybe a quarter screen away), you can do:
s.C, f+B, qcf+C > hcb+C [DC] qcf+B,B, qcb~hcf+P, dp+A - 434 damage.
You have to delay the second qcf+B kick a little bit, and then land Orochinagi as soon as you land to prop them up high enough for the dp+A as they fall. I messed around yesterday and found you can actually end the combo with EX hcb+K! That gives you a corner s.C punish for 516 with 2 meters and 1 drive. You have to really delay the second qcf+B kick to get the highest possible Orochinagi hit.