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King of Fighters XIII => General Discussion => Topic started by: THE ANSWER on November 01, 2010, 05:47:41 PM
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Please vote in the new poll.
Where: Las Vegas, Nevada
When: July 29-31 at The Rio Hotel and Casino
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Could you include some time/date/place info in the first post? I know it's in Las Vegas, right? But I don't know when it is.
Might help people with planning.
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If KoFXIII is there, I'll be there. Otherwise, no dice. I don't like Las Vegas or ridiculously hot temperatures.
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A KOF at Evo is definitely worth attendance. The more support for KOF there, the better. I'm inbetween wishing and guaranteeing going, but more on the latter considering I drove nearly a state away to get to a XIII cabinet; glad I double-checked to make sure it wasn't a XII cabinet (it was).
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I'll make it out there for sure. I really want XIII to be popular and there is a chance that it could be.
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Agreed, if 13 is there, I will be too along with a couple buddies from the T.O scene. Canada supports this game too!!
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Id probably have my vacation scheduled around Evo if im working at the moment.
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If it doesn't make the cut for some reason, at least there will be a bunch of KOF side tourneys and casuals, and hopefully seeing that will make them think about their decisions (or lack thereof)...
I play all fighting games, but I am excited about KOFXIII possibly being at EVO, and I hope that this hype spreads over to the SF side as I know a few people who play both games...
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There is no way I'd miss it I'll be there
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I'd love to go, but my schedule is pretty much always up in the air due to work (freelancing lol). Schedule permitting, I'll be there.
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As long as there's some kind of tournament for 13 i'd probably go :P
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DEFINITELY GOING!!!!!!
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not trying to sound like an ass or a jerk, but are you guys basing the trip to Evo if the game is being showed off on a big projector screen only? Or are you going regardless of the fact that the game may not make the main lineup? I guess what I'm asking is, would you guys go if there is only a side tourney with a possible 40+ people playing it?
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I will only go if it's one of the main tournaments.
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Half a world between me and EVO, quite certain i won't make it. Would gladly see kof13, i could go just to see ssf4 though so i could take a detour from that and enjoy kof13 on a regular setup without regret. But still, there is the issue of the atlantic ocean so i guess not.
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Definitely be there.
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As long as XIII is there, I'll be there.
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I guess to re-iterate. I've always wanted to go to an evo, so XIII being there is a bonus, a main game a super bonus, and I would actually participate in the tourney itself then instead of just spectate/record shit/take pictures
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not trying to sound like an ass or a jerk, but are you guys basing the trip to Evo if the game is being showed off on a big projector screen only? Or are you going regardless of the fact that the game may not make the main lineup? I guess what I'm asking is, would you guys go if there is only a side tourney with a possible 40+ people playing it?
I would go regardless. Being on the big screen imo is a small part of the fun, excitement and the overall benefits of being at evo. On top of that, people from toronto won't be able to touch the game until the console release, so maybe it's better we (as in T.O peeps) don't get to be on the big screen :P
With that aside, I think that people who wouldn't go unless it's on the big screen should keep in mind that building the scene should be part of your plans also, and that applies to all of us really. If we can build a big enough scene, being on the big screen will become a given.
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I guess to re-iterate. I've always wanted to go to an evo, so XIII being there is a bonus, a main game a super bonus, and I would actually participate in the tourney itself then instead of just spectate/record shit/take pictures
I think it'll be good to finally meet some DC'ers too.
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IMO it's more than just being on a big screen. Games that make the EVO lineup are consider to have a solid community. That's the point here to find out how many people would be motivated and would make the effort to attend and official event. Ofcourse we can have a side tournament hosted by Darkgeese (no disrespect), but how many people across the country would show up? How about international players? That is probably for another poll thou but I'm sure not many.
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Just to get a sense of scale, how big is the turnout for most non-SF4 tournaments at EVO? I've seen videos of the huge crowd at the SF finals, but how about games like Blazblue, Melty Blood or Tatsunoko? How many people show up?
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Those huge crowd scenes are usually for the finals for all of the main games. In 2009, BB had several hundred people, I think. It was chaotic.
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All The finals are on the same day, so theres usually Hundreds of people watching, that's not counting the THOUSANDS of people watching the stream.
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What I mean is, how many people need to be interested in playing XIII before the EVO organizers take notice?
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they might do another vote like they did this year (with how MB got in) so KOF people will have to vote. another way is SNKP sponsoring a spot, which is how it usually goes down
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I wish I could, sorry but if it's somewhere near, I'll be there for sure.
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Just to get a sense of scale, how big is the turnout for most non-SF4 tournaments at EVO? I've seen videos of the huge crowd at the SF finals, but how about games like Blazblue, Melty Blood or Tatsunoko? How many people show up?
for MB at EVO 2010, we had around 150 people. i remember the year EVO had VF5, they only had like 40 entrants or something like that. it's not always about numbers. post on SRK, talk to Mr. Wizard. it's how you promote the scene rather than the scene itself sometimes. it also helps if we foster some high level play. even if we don't have a lot of players, if vids and whatnot show otherwise, we might draw the crowds and garner some votes come poll time.
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I wish I could, sorry but if it's somewhere near, I'll be there for sure.
It's only Vegas. Even if you're already back in NorCal by then, Vegas isn't far at all.
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i'd like to see emil show up. i'd also like to see mm's from mr kof, DG
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i'd like to see emil show up. i'd also like to see mm's from mr kof, DG
No disrespect to (DG) but that wouldn't be a fair match, Mr KoF would win in all match ups IMO. For XIII and even XII Reynald vs Mr Kof would be close matches.
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If XIII is there then you will be seeing Seattle's top KOF players in full force, but me personally I only want to play 4 people The Answer,Mr.KOF,Reynold and
Kane317 or whoever is a really good player cause I want to test myself against the best. -In that case, fixed Kane317
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i am down for EVO for KOF 13 if it makes it on the line up. If you can't get me . i'm sure Reynald my counter part/ who is part of Team Deadly Duo)will take care of the rest and put on a good show. I'm down for Money matches...but please make it worth my trip to vegas. The gas and boarding doesn't pay itself.
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Melty blood had 150 participants last year so we should be shooting for a number close to that if we want to participate.
Also VF5 had 40 participants about 7years ago I remember really well cause I was there and was the first year I hosted the KOF side tournaments, it was back when EVO was starting so 40 people was consider a decent number. Now days there's no way a game with that turnout would even be consider. An easier way would be if SNKP/Ignition sponsor a spot, but then again how easy it's to get ahold of them?
Offtopic question, is Ignition picking up XIII?
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Offtopic question, is Ignition picking up XIII?
Mad Max over at Ignition implies that he still has connects with people with SNKP so....maybe? possibly? likely?
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Funny story I went to E3 this year and at the Ignition booth there was some of the KOF XII tournamnet organizers and when asked about Ignition picking up KOF again, they denied all knowledge of the game or ever having something to do with it. lol Master Giby from SC.com had the same response.
Sorry off topic again.
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Like nilcam said, if 13 is at EVO I'll go, otherwise I can get better competition South of the border. As Mr. KOF says, make it worth my while, I'm not gonna fly to EVO for nothing and it not be worth my while just because people wanna play me, make it worth my while to come there, or I can just go level up in Mexico.
With all due respect- Also Kane I would love to play John again in all KOFs, you do remember I put John in Losers Bracket in KOFXII in El Paso in 2009 right, so it may not be as free as you think.
I also want my rematch against Reynald in 98UM/XII!
I'd like to MM John in KOFXI, 98UM, 2002 UM, KOFXII, 13, 2000, NeoWave, 2001, KOF 1999, I'm sure it'd be fun.
I mean after all I don't travel to Mexico every 3 months just so I can stay at the same skill level or be what you guys remembered me last time you played against me, if people aren't playing the game that much anymore or have stopped they need to know I have not stopped playing the games.
Emil will never show up, so stop even dropping his name in these threads, it's pointless, as I said on the #snkplaymore chat, I play against people in Mexico that show up and would destroy Emil with little to no effort, so why does Emil even deserve the time of day when there are others I can bring that would be better than Emil anyways (Kula, Esteban, Alexis, Kane9999, Luis Cha, Abraham, Ivan, the list goes on and on.).
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He who has no physical form must not be mentioned on these threads.
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I heard Emil is Japanese for SHUT IN.
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Funny story I went to E3 this year and at the Ignition booth there was some of the KOF XII tournamnet organizers and when asked about Ignition picking up KOF again, they denied all knowledge of the game or ever having something to do with it. lol Master Giby from SC.com had the same response.
Sorry off topic again.
Actually there was a post on Ignition by MadMax himself over this and he promptly deleted it. Basically something along the lines of if SNKP fixes their netcode then they'd be willing to pick it up again, but if they don't then Ignition is giving them the Goro Toss.
I'd like to see Ignition get a great product though after the shitty online product of 12.
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He who has no physical form must not be mentioned on these threads.
LMAO.
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you motherfuckers are real lucky with your tournaments and shit, making me jealous. i hope the game has some following in the netherlands so we can actually hold a tourney. the organizer from the last sf game, 1 of them is a friend of mine. he also played kof back in the days, waiting for 13. we might actually be able to do something for the people around this hemesphere.
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language.
and if a dutch one won't happen then maybe a benelux one (that's BElgium, NEtherlands and LUXemburg for the rest of you). worst case scenario? a trip to paris(who am i kidding? i do anything to go there XD)
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Super Versus Battle the tournament they hold in the UK I am sure they will hold something when 13 hits, I mean I told them about Bata being in the UK this year and they held a 2k2UM tournament to which Bata won, SvB, so it is possible.
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What about that French tournament? I think Canes or something like that???? they always have KOF there and the payouts are pretty good.
Hmm this might be the excuse I needed to finally go to Europe =D
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What about that French tournament? I think Canes or something like that???? they always have KOF there and the payouts are pretty good.
Hmm this might be the excuse I needed to finally go to Europe =D
Cannes has it as does Stunfest, they do have good payouts and I mean hey last I checed the Euro is worth more than the US Dollar so yes that would be worth it.
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i think it should be possible, tough finding people of the skill to actually participate in a tournament and stand a chance is very scarce right now. i dont know many people from the netherlands that are actually good in the game, besides the turkish dutch sf champ who i only know of sf play (but i dont doubt his words about him being op in kof, we both from the same times when kof used to be big back in the 90's). i think there might be some decent players in germany but not a whole lot. spain and italy should have some good players as well. uk probably as well, france seems the most qualified by the amount of players they got. turkey got some good players from what i remember but people actually willing to travel to western europe for a tournament? i think france might be the best place to hold a tournament, A because they got the most quality players (probably), B its the most central for western europeans. especially with a nice turn out and good prize money, this should be very possible.
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With all due respect- Also Kane I would love to play John again in all KOFs, you do remember I put John in Losers Bracket in KOFXII in El Paso in 2009 right, so it may not be as free as you think.
I also want my rematch against Reynald in 98UM/XII!
I'd like to MM John in KOFXI, 98UM, 2002 UM, KOFXII, 13, 2000, NeoWave, 2001, KOF 1999, I'm sure it'd be fun.
It's all good, hehe, I still hold my same opinion but I could be wrong (I don't know if John's touched NeoWave, I don't consider that a real kof. To me it's like MI, CvS and SvC.)
I mean after all I don't travel to Mexico every 3 months just so I can stay at the same skill level or be what you guys remembered me last time you played against me, if people aren't playing the game that much anymore or have stopped they need to know I have not stopped playing the games.
Just kinda curious DG, how come you spend all that money to goto Mexico every three months when you could prolly go visit Europe once, or Asia once per year instead. I'm not saying the level in Mexico is low, I'm just saying for variety's sake (unless going to Mexico is actually really inexpensive, then that'll make sense).
Oh and the few times we do agree, we agree about emil (I think he really is just a programmed script) =)
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Mexico is very close to me easy to fly, costs less than $300 or at max $300 to fly roundtrip, I have a lot of trust with the community, I know exactly what I am getting in regards to level of skill and I have the chance to play famous Mexican players on a consistent basis and builds my trust with them and enables me to setup international stuff like what I am doing now all the time. I am going to get to play vs. Luis Cha in 2000/2001, NeoWave whatever, Ivan in 2002 UM this time, Kula in 98UM, 2002 UM, KOFXI, whatever I want, so you guys will see footage of me vs. Kula in two weeks..all of this from going to Mexico on a consistent basis..
Flying to Europe and Asia costs $1,000 per trip roundtrip, and though I have contacts like Dune etc if I am going to spend that amount to train I want it to be well worth it.
Thus for the time being I am levelling up in Juarez, which will soon to be Mexico City and other places in addition to much cheaper places such as Peru, Argentina and all over South America, I mean it costs less to fly to Lima, Peru than it does to fly to Japan..I mean we are talking like 6-700 dollars less.
In regards to variety I'm taking it one step at a time, it will be time for me to go to Mexico City a lot to get variety, then I will start going further and further down South, also going to Asia etc for the tournaments I have planned in the future.
Hope that answers your questions...
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The next tournament in France would be the World Games Cup 2011 Cannes: http://www.worldgamecup.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=dd2970175100803642eeb0f65874be69
I think Gunsmith and some other Orochinagi guys are planning to go to that one.
As for EVO i would be interested in going if it had 13, not too sure i would be able to go though as i'm saving to go Japan next year.
Would definitely like to come over and play some guys in the US when i can afford to.
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going to europe has no meaning at all, wtf you wanna do here? visit the 1 or 2 arcades that only some countries still have left? if i where you, id save the money and visit japan or china. i wanna visit japan when i can.
also one of my best friends is chinese from guang zhou (dont know how to write the shit), and he basically asks me every year or 2 to go with him to visit his hometown, hk, sh and some other places with him. def worth it since hes got contacts in every layer of society, something i need to do within the next 2 years. hopefully next year. also from texas to mexico should be cheap, your neighbours. its like going from holland to france in terms of distance/cost.
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Mexico is very close to me easy to fly, costs less than $300 or at max $300 to fly roundtrip, I have a lot of trust with the community, I know exactly what I am getting in regards to level of skill and I have the chance to play famous Mexican players on a consistent basis and builds my trust with them and enables me to setup international stuff like what I am doing now all the time. I am going to get to play vs. Luis Cha in 2000/2001, NeoWave whatever, Ivan in 2002 UM this time, Kula in 98UM, 2002 UM, KOFXI, whatever I want, so you guys will see footage of me vs. Kula in two weeks..all of this from going to Mexico on a consistent basis..
Flying to Europe and Asia costs $1,000 per trip roundtrip, and though I have contacts like Dune etc if I am going to spend that amount to train I want it to be well worth it.
Thus for the time being I am levelling up in Juarez, which will soon to be Mexico City and other places in addition to much cheaper places such as Peru, Argentina and all over South America, I mean it costs less to fly to Lima, Peru than it does to fly to Japan..I mean we are talking like 6-700 dollars less.
In regards to variety I'm taking it one step at a time, it will be time for me to go to Mexico City a lot to get variety, then I will start going further and further down South, also going to Asia etc for the tournaments I have planned in the future.
Hope that answers your questions...
Cool. Didn't know it was that much cheaper, that makes sense now.
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Whether it was a main or a sub I would try my damnedest to make it out.
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Know what I want to see? I want to see a possible Latin America/South America big time tournament involving all of the countries in that part of the world that play KOF. I think it would make for some great times and some great matches. Guess I only say that cause I'm tired of everyone just crowning the Japanese and Chinese as the only ones worth watching when it comes to fighters and also the chances of ever seeing any of the top Latin players at an event like SBO is very low.
as for Evo, don't know if I would make it since you never know what can happen in life. If I were to go, I would try to road trip it from NY. Get out and see the road.
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I have to try to make it to Evo. I really want to play with people above my level in any game but I want it the most with KOF.
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going to europe has no meaning at all, wtf you wanna do here? visit the 1 or 2 arcades that only some countries still have left? if i where you, id save the money and visit japan or china. i wanna visit japan when i can.
i disagree and agree. europe isn't NL.
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going to europe has no meaning at all, wtf you wanna do here? visit the 1 or 2 arcades that only some countries still have left? if i where you, id save the money and visit japan or china. i wanna visit japan when i can.
i disagree and agree. europe isn't NL.
Will you be going to the tournament in Cannes?
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logistics wise, i could go. unfortunately, i'm more of a sideline supporter and fan of the series than a serious player. i might go just for the hell of it, just don't hold me to it.
EDIT: f&^%, google earth tells me it's an awesome place to take a vacation ^^
anyone wanna buy a guitar? XD (jk)
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Well after a long weekend I finally recovered. I noticed there's been more interest from some of you guys to have KOF XIII @ EVO as part of the main event lineup, which is great.
However let me fill you guys in the situation unfortunally I can't disclose too much.
1. Starting a Facebook account will not work.
2. Starting Polls to show the number of people interested will not work.
3. Sending a million emails to the EVO staff will not work.
SoCal Regionals was part of the effort of bringing KOF XIII to EVO, what I can tell you guys right now is that all we need is the support from SNKP to make this happen. The SNKP rep was impressed by the event and very thankful towards us that made it happen. As many of you did on the stream, he also noticed the difficulties that it is to deal with the TAITO boards and how much easier it would be to work with consoles.
Right now we are at SNKP mercy to make this happen.
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Well after a long weekend I finally recovered. I noticed there's been more interest from some of you guys to have KOF XIII @ EVO as part of the main event lineup, which is great.
However let me fill you guys in the situation unfortunally I can't disclose too much.
1. Starting a Facebook account will not work.
2. Starting Polls to show the number of people interested will not work.
3. Sending a million emails to the EVO staff will not work.
SoCal Regionals was part of the effort of bringing KOF XIII to EVO, what I can tell you guys right now is that all we need is the support from SNKP to make this happen. The SNKP rep was impressed by the event and very thankful towards us that made it happen. As many of you did on the stream, he also noticed the difficulties that it is to deal with the TAITO boards and how much easier it would be to work with consoles.
Right now we are at SNKP mercy to make this happen.
Do you know or asked if any more SNKP reps would attend future tourneys, like Norcal Regionals?
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Well after a long weekend I finally recovered. I noticed there's been more interest from some of you guys to have KOF XIII @ EVO as part of the main event lineup, which is great.
However let me fill you guys in the situation unfortunally I can't disclose too much.
1. Starting a Facebook account will not work.
2. Starting Polls to show the number of people interested will not work.
3. Sending a million emails to the EVO staff will not work.
SoCal Regionals was part of the effort of bringing KOF XIII to EVO, what I can tell you guys right now is that all we need is the support from SNKP to make this happen. The SNKP rep was impressed by the event and very thankful towards us that made it happen. As many of you did on the stream, he also noticed the difficulties that it is to deal with the TAITO boards and how much easier it would be to work with consoles.
Right now we are at SNKP mercy to make this happen.
Do you know or asked if any more SNKP reps would attend future tourneys, like Norcal Regionals?
Yes but no one from NorCal Regionals approched them.
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Well with the facebook account I can always send it to SNK/Playmore JP/USA to show them how many people want KOF XIII@EVO and maybe they can work something out with the EVO staff.
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Well with the facebook account I can always send it to SNK/Playmore JP/USA to show them how many people want KOF XIII@EVO and maybe they can work something out with the EVO staff.
Evo staff wants numbers. No one who runs a tournament will host a game that doesn't have numbers to back it. Like I said in the GD thread, it doesn't matter how many people WANT KOF at Evo. What matters is how many people are going to show up. KOF players need to be at Evo, not signing their names saying they want it at Evo.
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Evo staff wants numbers. No one who runs a tournament will host a game that doesn't have numbers to back it. Like I said in the GD thread, it doesn't matter how many people WANT KOF at Evo. What matters is how many people are going to show up. KOF players need to be at Evo, not signing their names saying they want it at Evo.
This.
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We can also have americas top KOF players play against japans top players since they would be there playing SSF4 at EVO2k11? Maybe we can get a 5v5 along with a singles tournament if there is a high turnout.
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I'll be at Evo 2011 no matter what. If we have KoF XIII there as a main or side tourney, that will be my top priority. I'll still be doing SSFIV and MvC3, but KoF would be my focus.
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I'll be at Evo 2011 no matter what. If we have KoF XIII there as a main or side tourney, that will be my top priority. I'll still be doing SSFIV and MvC3, but KoF would be my focus.
I was going to ask you that at SCR but I didn't get a chance (whether or not KOF XIII was your focus since I knew you played other games).
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Know what I want to see? I want to see a possible Latin America/South America big time tournament involving all of the countries in that part of the world that play KOF. I think it would make for some great times and some great matches. Guess I only say that cause I'm tired of everyone just crowning the Japanese and Chinese as the only ones worth watching when it comes to fighters and also the chances of ever seeing any of the top Latin players at an event like SBO is very low.
as for Evo, don't know if I would make it since you never know what can happen in life. If I were to go, I would try to road trip it from NY. Get out and see the road.
Anyone that crowns the Japanese and Asians as the only ones of any value that play KOF are simply ignorant, they are ignoring Latin America and Latin America is strong enough to have the type of influence that would make peoples heads shake twice (See JuareZ WarZone, Game of Death).
This tournament you speak is on its way to happening, it has to start small though.
Remember EVO started as B3? The road to the Ultimate KOF Showdown got started with JuareZ WarZone and Game of Death, will continue with Battle 4 Mexico as Kula is interested in being Mexicos KOF representative and travelling with me to take out KOF players around the globe, and Game of Death 2011 with Hummer from Japan. The seeds have been planted it's just about continuing to water them.
John- From what I have been gathering more than likely the top top 13 players won't be at EVO for SSF4..so that may be wshful thinking...while some of the good Japanese 13 players do play SSF4, there are a lot that don't...so EVO may yet again just give us the "leftovers" of the Japanese 13 community...or the SSF4 players basically..
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Anyone that crowns the Japanese and Asians as the only ones of any value that play KOF are simply ignorant, they are ignoring Latin America and Latin America is strong enough to have the type of influence that would make peoples heads shake twice (See JuareZ WarZone, Game of Death).
Well in all fairness, "Japanese and Asians" is kinda misleading also :/ Asia is a continent. That's like saying "Mexicans and South Americans" are good at KOF. There's Korea, Japan, Taiwan, China, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia that are famous for KOF in the past or present years, so lumping them all together is kinda taking away from their individual talent as well. Also, outside of Asia Major, there's Pakistan that was famous a couple of years ago for KOFers, Kuwaiti had that White Tower deal etc.
Back to the point, I don't think people are naive per se and think only certain countries have good KOF players, I think it's about exposure, and I think Japan (and to a certain extent HK, China, Taiwan) have the most exposure of good players in the recent KOFs.
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I agree with this Kane, I just feel that people get mislead into believing that whoever gets the most exposure is the best, which is simply to me ignorance. They only rely on what they know, it is what they do not know that that makes them ignorant if they comment prematurely on things without doing their proper research or acknowledging that they could be wrong. Plus I know firsthand of some people within this thread, that have been mislead into believing that the Japanese and those that get the most exposure>>> than the rest, but I am not going to say any names, they know who they are (one in particular seriously believed that because a Japanese beat the CaliMexicans in the USA at EVO ala RF in 2005 then a Japanese would beat the Mexicans in Mexico now c'mon how fanboyish/ignorant is that??? As you know skill level in the USA and Mexico is like apples and oranges in KOF so there is NO comparison whatsoever!)
You should've seen the reaction from JuareZ WarZone with people not wanting to give the Juarez and Mexican players ANY credit whatsoever as if there is no way they have the SKILL to truly beat the Japanese, which to me is simply fanboyish, it's like Daigo fanboys not being able to admit when Daigo you know, actually loses or give other people some type of credit at all!
Now with that being said I am aware of the "stick issue", which is why to rectify that we had Danke with Game of Death and the results were the same, and no one talks about that, so to rectify THAT, we have Hummer coming for Game of Death 2011, which should yet again silence critics that believe Mexico simply isn't on Japan's level remotely in KOF.
Mexico didn't have enough exposure in KOF before, it was all Japan, Korea, Taiwan etc this, over and over, SBO this, Duelling the KOF that, The Great Battle, all the glitz, glory, glamour, HD graphics, the works, while you got some judging Mexican skill level over GGPO which is another issue I have seen which is ignorant as well.
I agree with what you say also, I tell people SBO is the Eurasian Championships (and even then not so sure if it is that if not even the Middle East gets to go), it is no way shape or form the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP, it includes ONLY people from the continent of Eurasia, and some from the USA, but does not include those from Latin America at all.
Also I tell people the Middle East is also strong in KOF as a whole and from what I hear for the most part they don't get to go to SBO either, so there are a lot of gray areas basically is what I am trying to show people, they can't just crown one particular country/continent as the best when as you say there are many countries with individual talent, and even then some of them do not get to go to SBO such as the Middle East and Latin America.
So I agree with you 110%.
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Very interesting point of view about SNK community and 'KOFXIII at EVO' thing. You should read it and think about it.
http://www.snk-capcom.com/?p=3883#more-3883
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Giby makes some good points in that article. There are a lot of broad generalizations that don't pan out for me personally, but it is great food for thought. I'll go to EVO if KoFXIII is there in any shape or form.
Here in Oklahoma City, there is a pretty healthy fighting game scene. I've spent many nights going to their ranbats and contributing in order to foster a relationship. I had a King of Fighters party and roughly half of the people who go to the ranbats showed up. I brought my PS3 and TV to a ranbat after an invitation was extended and very few people played. My idea of building the SNK community is two-fold. I'm putting in a lot of time and effort on my local scene. For the larger SNK scene, we have Dream Cancel. I would not say I'm sitting on my ass when it comes to the community.
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Yeah, Giby was definitely engaging in some generalizations in order to make a point. Still, it's a point worth making.
But I also think it's important not to get bogged down in comparing our community against others, or one person's contributions against others. We're ALL invested in this, so we should all be supportive of each other.
Ugh. Sounding like an after school special.
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Yeah Giby makes a good point, but then again if when spent all our time comparing our commute to another we'd never get anything done, we'd just be sitting on our ass complaining about nothing *cough*, anyway I hate all this "Look what they're doing, we should be more like them!" bullshit as much as the next guy but I guess sometimes you have to, erm.. anyway I'm not worried about EVO because that's a long long time away, we should divert our attention back to trying to build that substantial "community"
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Giby's rant had good points, but was strange to read too. As I've recently tried starting up something for SNK in an area that is barely aware of it except for more hardcore fighters, I'm finding out a great deal about "commuities." I started mine a lot later than I should have, but I'm sure there's more to a community flourishing than just having a voice. How Melty Blood and Arcana Heart secured a place at Evo, I couldn't tell you. Whatever evidence is out there that supports their entry, I'm happy for them. Commuities, who/what game belongs/is popluar where, it all matters to some degree, but not nearly as much as pushing for what you want. To cheesily quote Nike, "Just do it". Giby's last paragraph as a sort of call to arms isn't as big as it could've been. Lots of negativity (factual as it may be) outweighted the last message to me. More emphasis on "going out and being active" is what will help.
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Maybe it's just me, but I would not want to see KoF13 at next year's Evo. I say this because the overwhelming majority of us USA players don't even have access to the game. Why rush into things and not be prepared? Like someone else said, if it does happen, chances are the majority of the people who show up will be at scrub level at best and it will put something of a dent on how people see the community.
Edit : Read the Giby article and I wonder, when he was talking about all the negative things, was he referring to the people who mainly stick to the snkplaymore irc chat? Cause we all know there are some people in there who all they like to do is complain and never do anything to better the community.
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Maybe it's just me, but I would not want to see KoF13 at next year's Evo. I say this because the overwhelming majority of us USA players don't even have access to the game. Why rush into things and not be prepared? Like someone else said, if it does happen, chances are the majority of the people who show up will be at scrub level at best and it will put something of a dent on how people see the community.
Edit : Read the Giby article and I wonder, when he was talking about all the negative things, was he referring to the people who mainly stick to the snkplaymore irc chat? Cause we all know there are some people in there who all they like to do is complain and never do anything to better the community.
Well if the game is coming out on console in Q1 2011, it should be fine to have at EVO
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Edit : Read the Giby article and I wonder, when he was talking about all the negative things, was he referring to the people who mainly stick to the snkplaymore irc chat? Cause we all know there are some people in there who all they like to do is complain and never do anything to better the community.
Nah, I'm pretty sure he was talking about the community as a whole
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My honest opinion is that a lot of ppl like KOF XIII, but they don't take it seriously enough to honestly try to learn it. Either that, or they spend too much time dabbing in other fighting games to get good at one (if you chase two chickens you'l end up with none). Now I understand people have lives, and things get in the way, I'm not talking about those people. I'm talking about people that spend more than half the time playing other Fighting Games yet expect to be good at KOF XIII, it's just not going to happen. If wanted to get good at SSIV, I'll probably have to drop XIII for awhile at least, play SSIV exclusively, join tournaments etc before I get good (Mr KOF seems to be an exception lol).
It really saddens me when I see a lot of talented players playing other games, and I KNOW they'd be so good at XIII if they had just stuck to XIII ( I won't name names ).
I'll extend this a little further, IF you have access to XIII, and you're playing the older KOFs instead. Shame on you. Knowing what XIII means to SNKP in terms of the future of the company--you're essentially slowly killing the company. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying don't play 2K2UM when you get home, or the odd time here and there, I'm talking about the people that basically PREFER 2k2UM over XIII, it's not helping at all.
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The thing is, you gotta remember that only you AI guys seems to be the only ones with any access to KOF13 at the moment. Has anyone here heard or seen any sort of feedback from the Arcade UFO cabinet? Hell, does anyone even know if they still have it there along with the 1.1 update?
Here in NY, CTF has yet to get it and quite frankly, I feel as if that place the last few years pretty much disregard anything that is not Capcom related when it comes to fighters. Which is a shame since a lot of players here are dying to play the game.
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Here in NY, CTF has yet to get it and quite frankly, I feel as if that place the last few years pretty much disregard anything that is not Capcom related when it comes to fighters. Which is a shame since a lot of players here are dying to play the game.
Do people ask constantly when CTF is going to get it? Like ask the people who run it? That would be pretty huge if we can find a way for east coast players to have access to the game.
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The thing is, you gotta remember that only you AI guys seems to be the only ones with any access to KOF13 at the moment.
Yeah that's why I said those who DO have access.
Has anyone here heard or seen any sort of feedback from the Arcade UFO cabinet? Hell, does anyone even know if they still have it there along with the 1.1 update?
I'm so curious about them too. Weird how they aren't promoting hard at all. There are countries across the world (like France and the Philippines) that we've heard more about it, and they got it way later.
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Well I for one was happy KoF XIII appeared in the Philippines though I actually want a new cabinet since a lot of people tend to try and play the game when they can (whenever I go there, at least). Still, it's better than not having at all. As far as I know, we only had one XI and NGBC cabinets here. I only knew one NeoWave cabinet as well and I don't know where it went to. I don't even think we had 2002UM and XII at all.
I'll extend this a little further, IF you have access to XIII, and you're playing the older KOFs instead. Shame on you.
I resent that. I have access to KoF XIII but I can't play it every single time. As I said up there, it's crowded most of the time and I'd have to wait for a long time before it's my turn to challenge (and I have yet to win at all). It's also not like the arcade is still open for long when I finally have my free time since it's usually at night time (or early in the morning when the mall is still closed).
That said, I'd rather do stuff I need to do and play older games in the comfort of my own home than wait for a long time just so I can play XIII...only to find out that it's already way past bedtime and I have yet to finish my homework.
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Here in NY, CTF has yet to get it and quite frankly, I feel as if that place the last few years pretty much disregard anything that is not Capcom related when it comes to fighters. Which is a shame since a lot of players here are dying to play the game.
Do people ask constantly when CTF is going to get it? Like ask the people who run it? That would be pretty huge if we can find a way for east coast players to have access to the game.
I know for a fact that I've asked about 12 times in the past. They told me stop calling them, they have no idea when they're getting the game.
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I'll extend this a little further, IF you have access to XIII, and you're playing the older KOFs instead. Shame on you.
I resent that. I have access to KoF XIII but I can't play it every single time. As I said up there, it's crowded most of the time and I'd have to wait for a long time before it's my turn to challenge (and I have yet to win at all). It's also not like the arcade is still open for long when I finally have my free time since it's usually at night time (or early in the morning when the mall is still closed).
That said, I'd rather do stuff I need to do and play older games in the comfort of my own home than wait for a long time just so I can play XIII...only to find out that it's already way past bedtime and I have yet to finish my homework.
Well it's one thing where you have to wait (and I think we've covered that a lot over here at AI. 30+min drives, first 7-10 weeks were an average of 6+ player wait, did I mention 30+min drives WITHOUT traffic? If try to go when there's nobody, that's an hour an 10 min drive. So you won't have much sympathy coz I KNOW you don't travel that far...hehe do you? =) ), but it's another thing where ppl are too lazy to learn something new.
I "PAID my tuition", and I'm still not good, but I keep at it trying to get better. There are nights on end where I play every 25mins and I lose EVERY ONE OF THEM for 3 hours straight, but I keep at it. It's quite understandable you're playing other games in between the wait time, but don't stop playing XIII (this isn't directly at you in particular, just speaking in general) otherwise how else would you get better? I don't know how etiquette ranges from country to country, but we just put our coin up, go do something else and return when it's our turn (if they skip it, we'll just go next).
I was referring more to people that pretty much just write off the experience coz they always feel the line is too long (it's always going to be because it's a popular game!) and indirectly give up or, "I'll just wait for the console." I feel like it's a slap in the face to the people that REALLY have no access to the game.
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I for one feel that only good can come from an appearance at EVO, look at blazblue I think it was 09 the game had barely came out on console and it was put into the lineup with some really mediocre play except for the dude who lives in japan and played in arcade, we can't possibly do worse than that, especially since that game was a totally new series
and even after all of that they were still asked back for the following year until they gave up their spot for mvc2, because nobody was playing that game anymore and moved on to CS. Bottom line nothing but good can come from this for the community if it happens
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Well it's one thing where you have to wait (and I think we've covered that a lot over here at AI. 30+min drives, first 7-10 weeks were an average of 6+ player wait, did I mention 30+min drives WITHOUT traffic? If try to go when there's nobody, that's an hour an 10 min drive. So you won't have much sympathy coz I KNOW you don't travel that far...hehe do you? =) ), but it's another thing where ppl are too lazy to learn something new.
Actually, my place is also quite far, about an hour or more with traffic, and I'll be lucky if I can get by without traffic. If I could though, I can get to the arcade no problem, but that's because it's much nearer my school than at home.
I know you meant something else but the way you wrote it, it really wasn't that good.
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If there's a long line we usually put up our token, watch for a bit, maybe watch SFIV, play strikers 1945 plus, come back then take our turn. Most of us know each other so sometimes we share characters so you get to play more often.
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I for one feel that only good can come from an appearance at EVO, look at blazblue I think it was 09 the game had barely came out on console and it was put into the lineup with some really mediocre play except for the dude who lives in japan and played in arcade, we can't possibly do worse than that, especially since that game was a totally new series
and even after all of that they were still asked back for the following year until they gave up their spot for mvc2, because nobody was playing that game anymore and moved on to CS. Bottom line nothing but good can come from this for the community if it happens
i think what meta said is being a bit overly optimistic. KOF has fallen into the shadows as far as most fighting gamers in america are concerned. a lot of its core base has moved on to other franchises or simply stopped playing games altogether. added to the stumbling block that was KOF12, and there's a bunch of work KOF fans have to rebuild to once again become respected in the FG community.
blazblue isn't really a good comparison. from the get-go, it generally received positive critical reception. while at SCR, i tried to pay attention to onlookers and their thoughts on the game, and i heard quite a few of them say something along the lines of, "the game looks good, but i have no interest in it." why is that? personally, i feel that aside from dedicated KOF fans, all the hype building over the years since the series' inception has died out. face it, US gamers don't care about KOF anymore. we've all seen it. all the headliners are always SSF4/BB:CS. spectators didn't seem too impressed but SCR grand finals either. i'm not saying i didn't enjoy them, just that people didn't seem hype at all to watch.
as for EVO, i don't think it's enough just to have KOF13 as a main game. you can't want people to just want this game to be seen. what if the game isn't represented well? even if it is, it's not a guarantee of anything. think about where the series evolves from here. in some ways it was pretty similar to Melty at EVO. no one heard of it and no one cared. yet, the community pulled big numbers by holding tournaments and introducing new players to the scene. they brought high level play and talked to big names about their scene. they got involved without pushing anything down anyone's throat. granted KOF13 doesn't yet have a console release so i understand that bringing it to BYOC at tourneys isn't really an option, but start thinking about the long term. even now, the state of Melty is in question. sure it was generally well received, but where do the game and its players go from there? similarly, with SNKP's troubles, we should all be thinking of what effects will EVO have on KOF for the future. EVO alone won't have the game accepted. it's something to think about.
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In America, a lot depends on the console port. There just aren't enough XIII cabinets in the US, and SNK apparently didn't make very many copies of the game. Before people can play the game, they obviously need access to the game.
1) Netcode is obvious. However, I think people should plan to find real life people to play against, regardless of the netcode. We're a small community, so we need to get used to the idea of traveling in order to find competition. Traveling for two hours just to get your ass kicked repeatedly in XIII should sound like an AWESOME IDEA to you!
2) Some may disagree, but I also think it's important that SNK make some balance adjustments to the console version. I suspect that, if XIII somehow did make it to EVO and all the final teams consisted of K', Raiden and Elizabeth/Kula/Iori/Kyo, a lot of people won't take the game seriously, or want to try it out.
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We're a small community, so we need to get used to the idea of traveling in order to find competition. Traveling for two hours just to get your ass kicked repeatedly in XIII should sound like an AWESOME IDEA to you!
Oh my god yes!!! That's what I do!! Not like 2 hrs more like one
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Well it's one thing where you have to wait (and I think we've covered that a lot over here at AI. 30+min drives, first 7-10 weeks were an average of 6+ player wait, did I mention 30+min drives WITHOUT traffic? If try to go when there's nobody, that's an hour an 10 min drive. So you won't have much sympathy coz I KNOW you don't travel that far...hehe do you? =) ), but it's another thing where ppl are too lazy to learn something new.
Actually, my place is also quite far, about an hour or more with traffic, and I'll be lucky if I can get by without traffic. If I could though, I can get to the arcade no problem, but that's because it's much nearer my school than at home.
I know you meant something else but the way you wrote it, it really wasn't that good.
I stand corrected. :)
All things aside and back to the topic, sitting in the comfort if your home isn't going to grow the scene, harsh note or not :) If you were just a casual gamer then maybe, I'm inferring that if you're in this thread then you probably at least want to get competitive and remember....the truth only hurts for so long =).
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We're a small community, so we need to get used to the idea of traveling in order to find competition. Traveling for two hours just to get your ass kicked repeatedly in XIII should sound like an AWESOME IDEA to you!
Oh my god yes!!! That's what I do!! Not like 2 hrs more like one
The closest machine to me is only 40 minutes away, but the competition is lacking. Or maybe I just consistently miss the good players. Last week, I saw someone had just started up a game and was selecting their characters. They had selected K' just as I pressed start and began selecting my characters. Almost immediately, the cursor stopped moving. His remaining characters and order were both decided automatically via time over. The round began, and K' was just standing there. I looked around the other side, and the person had apparently left. I really had no idea what to make of the event. Maybe some emergency came up just as he started the game, and it was just a coincidence that I joined the game just as he left. But I've NEVER heard of someone literally giving up before a match even begins. Seriously. That's just too weird.
Anyway, the best arcades are in Tokyo, which is two hours away. So that's where I like to go to get my ass kicked. :)
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Well when I was in Japan I found that Hey! and seven islands arcade had really good comp for KOF, but I would get my ass handed to me at seven islands arcade by some of the top players and Japan taught me not to underestimate female players cause I got raped a few times by some female players. I was also staying in Konandai so I was like 10 minutes away from seven islands arcade and leveled up fast in KOF, but the awesome thing about Hey! was next door was Matsuya's and I would eat there like 3 times a day, their Gyudon is hella bomb!!
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The great thing about Hey is that they have 4 machines set up for KOF XIII :D
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I don't know, the article in SNK - Capcom make lots of good points, I know that I can put everybody in the same bag, but like there said, people expect that lots of things happen magically without making any effort, and overall lots of fans seems very bitter to me, disrespecting other fighting games and communities, thinking that everybody in the world is against them and SNK, when the fact is, that I awalys believed that lots of people outside the community wants to see SNK sucess, I think that lots of them grow up loving at least one SNK games, all the haters are litlle child or stupid fanboys, so one should never look at them as the general consensus
I think that the SNK should be a little more open with the rest of the commnunity, look at their own errors, and willingly work with all those organization that are at charge of the tournaments, at least with the so cal regionals it seems that it was a very good start for XIII there in the states, if the game is released soon and the community moves up, I think that we could saw it on EVO
At least, the other 3 games that should be played probably are games which were released in the states and get some kind of exposure, with some luck I think that those 3 games could be BB, XIII and MK9
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So many hissy fits, damn.
One of the main, if not the main, culprits in this situation is SNK themselves. Years upon years of rehashing and whoring IPs over and over, what can you expect people to think of your games? Fans will take it up the ass for years but the rest won't.
You promise the people a rebirth but kick them in the balls instead with an unfinished product with shit online and at a full price, what can you expect to happen?
XIII is a solid game, fucking solid, but its a solid game that came after years of cutting corners. People won't just jump back on your ship, it will take time.
Throwing tantrums and pointing fingers won't do shit.
XIII means so much to SNK? I'll be the judge of that when the console port comes, you know, the only way the vast majority of us will get to play this game. SF4 and Blazblue took off because of playable online first and foremost imo. These games are a success because they succeeded overall, not just because they succeeded in being featured in tournaments. If SNK will not address this properly in XIII then they are just sending the game out to die, with no one but themselves to blame.
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SNKP, so incompetent.
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SNKP, so incompetent.
As far as the future, hope not.
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the big problem right now most people don't have access to the game, those who have a 2 hour drive to play shouldn't be complaining about this.
if we had the game right now it could be a huge draw, leveling up, preparing for evo, for the big event that would be an inspiration
I myself wouldn't want to go to vegas to compete in a game i have little to no experience playing it
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the big problem right now most people don't have access to the game, those who have a 2 hour drive to play shouldn't be complaining about this.
if we had the game right now it could be a huge draw, leveling up, preparing for evo, for the big event that would be an inspiration
I myself wouldn't want to go to vegas to compete in a game i have little to no experience playing it
Like I said earlier, if the game is coming out on console in Q1 2011, there should be serveral months before EVO.
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Main event or not as long as it's somewhere in evo I'd definitely try my hardest to make it.
In regards to insulting other communities, that's just stupid and childish. Games like Melty Blood may have gotten their start from hardcore MB players but it's the players from other games that help get these new games some attention. You don't get people from other fighting games to join you by insulting their game of choice.
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SNKP, so incompetent.
As far as the future, hope not.
True that, but you got to admit you can't say their (SNKP) overall lack of effort these past years hasn't taken a toll on their fans, it's really hard to recruit people to play a game no one else genuinely plays (competitively) except for a chosen few, their bonafide scarcity of gumption is what's holding me, you, and everyone else back
SNKP really needs to step it up, I like the fact that they are slowly becoming more aware of their fanbase in America (SoCal Regionals and the AI crew can attest to that) but they still have a long long way to go, they need to fix the netcode for all of their xbla games (namely everything that's not NGBC), they need to open a forum on their website or at establish some good connections in the U.S. and actually listen to what we say, etc
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they need to take a more proactive approach to fixing and patching their games too, they shouldn't just throw out a 43KB patch then say "The game is fixed" with a shit eating grin, they need to act like their product is worth something, god forbid they blow all their money on XIII and it ends up with a lukewarm piss netcode, I'd probably skip the console release entirely if that happens, real talk.
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My honest opinion is that a lot of ppl like KOF XIII, but they don't take it seriously enough to honestly try to learn it. Either that, or they spend too much time dabbing in other fighting games to get good at one (if you chase two chickens you'l end up with none). Now I understand people have lives, and things get in the way, I'm not talking about those people. I'm talking about people that spend more than half the time playing other Fighting Games yet expect to be good at KOF XIII, it's just not going to happen. If wanted to get good at SSIV, I'll probably have to drop XIII for awhile at least, play SSIV exclusively, join tournaments etc before I get good (Mr KOF seems to be an exception lol).
It really saddens me when I see a lot of talented players playing other games, and I KNOW they'd be so good at XIII if they had just stuck to XIII ( I won't name names ).
I'll extend this a little further, IF you have access to XIII, and you're playing the older KOFs instead. Shame on you. Knowing what XIII means to SNKP in terms of the future of the company--you're essentially slowly killing the company. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying don't play 2K2UM when you get home, or the odd time here and there, I'm talking about the people that basically PREFER 2k2UM over XIII, it's not helping at all.
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Okay guys back from Mexico and thought I'd pop in here and give my two cents on the issue. I agree with what Kane317 says here 500%. The problem I have seen in my 5 years of holding tournaments in the USA is the same stuff over and over, Dabblers.
How many times in the past have I said this is the main problem I see? Also yes I know, they fatten the money pot, but not by much if you only have like a 8 man tournament right? If that is the case what is the difference? Why even bother? At Absolute Battle hell the level of play in 2002 UM was so low to me I decided I'd rather sit out and let MightyMar play (plus I was softbanned lol but whatever if I REALLY wanted to enter don't you think I could've entered MY OWN TOURNAMENT I RAN??), so I agree you put 13 in EVO as a big/side game everyone is gonna watch from other countries and simply be disgusted by the level of play overall.
But..with that being said I will mention now that under the works period just to show other people how skilled Mexico can be, I am planning on taking a Mexican National Team of sorts to EVO to take all names at EVO everyone, be it Japanese or whatever take names and ask questions later be it if 13 is there OR NOT, but for sure if 13 is there I want the Mexican National Team to show how strong they are.
So then with this Mexican National Team +myself playing KOF, the AI players playing, and whatever Japanese players/other foreigners are playing, where does that leave the majority of US players?
In the cold, the results will come down to just that- Mexico vs. AI vs. other foreigners, why is this? Dabbling and super low level of play being a major part of it.
Now to address what Giby said about me not feeling it is worth my time, I stand by that, make it worth my time to go, I have done this for 5 years in the past and now don't feel it is necessary to do all this flying to places in the US for a 5 man tournament that is going to have 50x lower level of play than the locals in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico. Does that make ANY sense whatsoever? My time is much better spent in Juarez, Mexico or other places playing competent opponents that are going to make me stronger, force me to have to give it all I got, not for me to travel to places and continue to not only be supremely dissappointed each time due to the skill level of play , but not even make my plane ticket back because of entry, and feel like I am just wasting my time because it's me + a bunch of dabblers in the game. I have much better options in other words!!!
At least in Juarez not only am I going to be making my money back, but I am playing very strong worthy opponents, that's my big thing...
Rant over,
-DG
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i live 50 mins. from AI and go to school full time... i'm a dabbler :(
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i live 50 mins. from AI and go to school full time... i'm a dabbler :(
There are different degrees of dabbling and yes I understand life is a priority, but I tell people if it is something you really want you will find ways to make it happen, hell I had to wait 4 years before I could start travelling doing tournaments like I am doing now. Where was I from 2001-2004? In school at Texas Tech getting my degree so I COULD do what I am doing now. So it takes time don't get me wrong, but all I am saying is you know what is in your heart, if that is really what you want you will find ways to get it done, if not you won't that's what I am saying about dabblers as a whole, put me around people that not necessarily may be as passionate as me, but those that don't make excuses and find ways to get things done, go-getters so to speak.
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At Absolute Battle hell the level of play in 2002 UM was so low to me I decided I'd rather sit out and let MightyMar play (plus I was softbanned lol but whatever if I REALLY wanted to enter don't you think I could've entered MY OWN TOURNAMENT I RAN??),
Yeah, I saw that massive win streak you had in casuals from the vids you posted on youtube...lets just say that wouldn't have happened if you were in MN. ;)
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I hope not Desmon
At Absolute Battle hell the level of play in 2002 UM was so low to me I decided I'd rather sit out and let MightyMar play (plus I was softbanned lol but whatever if I REALLY wanted to enter don't you think I could've entered MY OWN TOURNAMENT I RAN??),
Yeah, I saw that massive win streak you had in casuals from the vids you posted on youtube...lets just say that wouldn't have happened if you were in MN. ;)
-desmond
I certainly hope not Desmond ;), for me it's more about the competition than running some streak just to boost my own ego (Borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrinnnnnnnnngggggggggggg), what good does that do? I had like 100x more fun getting my ass handed to me by Kula at Battle 4 Mexico....
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Low tier dabbler here! ;c ;fd ;a ;bk ;db ;dn ;df ;fd ;b
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With the recent upswing of activity with SNKPlaymore with its promotion of KOFXIII to some of the latest events (With help from the guys at SNK-Capcom, Iplaywinner, the tourney promoters, and of course the DC Arcade Infinity Crew), I feel like this is a good start. I think what SNK could stand to use is a some sort of community manager. I guess its been on my mind since at major tourneys you have sort of the figurehead for the company that is sort of the company ambassador in these tournaments like Seth Killian for Capcom, Markman for Madcats, and just recently FilthieRich for Namco. Technically, the guys over as SNK-Capcom Giby and Trieu already have some sort of connection with SNKP USA but I think a good step in the right direction is for someone to be officially titled SNKP's community manager.
This isn't really a plea for someone to step up, and I'm not exactly sure as to what channels to go through in order to get the ball rolling, but its just some food for thought that's been roasting in my mind as I watch these tournaments while I'm in school working on my resume and portfolio to get back into the workplace. I'd like to hear some "CONSTRUCTIVE" thoughts, ideas on the matter.
(If you feel this should warrant its own discussion thread, then that can be moved without me knowing. Just want to get some thoughts from people)
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There was one such person back when XII was coming out. But he was with Ignition, not SNKP.
I'm blanking on his name, though. I'm sure someone out there remembers him. He did all the pre-release interviews, and was at the Ignition-sponsored XII tournament.
If Ignition picks up XIII, he may be around to fill the same role.
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With the recent upswing of activity with SNKPlaymore with its promotion of KOFXIII to some of the latest events (With help from the guys at SNK-Capcom, Iplaywinner, the tourney promoters, and of course the DC Arcade Infinity Crew), I feel like this is a good start. I think what SNK could stand to use is a some sort of community manager. I guess its been on my mind since at major tourneys you have sort of the figurehead for the company that is sort of the company ambassador in these tournaments like Seth Killian for Capcom, Markman for Madcats, and just recently FilthieRich for Namco. Technically, the guys over as SNK-Capcom Giby and Trieu already have some sort of connection with SNKP USA but I think a good step in the right direction is for someone to be officially titled SNKP's community manager.
This isn't really a plea for someone to step up, and I'm not exactly sure as to what channels to go through in order to get the ball rolling, but its just some food for thought that's been roasting in my mind as I watch these tournaments while I'm in school working on my resume and portfolio to get back into the workplace. I'd like to hear some "CONSTRUCTIVE" thoughts, ideas on the matter.
(If you feel this should warrant its own discussion thread, then that can be moved without me knowing. Just want to get some thoughts from people)
Nah, this can stay here as it's relevant. I think Giby and Trieu make excellent community managers and I have been thinking about this since I got back from NCR, which is the whole purpose of us going really -- to build relationships with those who have relations with SNKP =) I would not be surprised if something manifests from the recent series of events that have transpired over the weeks.
FilthieRich ironically was participating in the XIII tourney lol.
There was one such person back when XII was coming out. But he was with Ignition, not SNKP.
I'm blanking on his name, though. I'm sure someone out there remembers him. He did all the pre-release interviews, and was at the Ignition-sponsored XII tournament.
If Ignition picks up XIII, he may be around to fill the same role.
Shane Bettenhausen
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ahh yea. Shane of 1up fame. I remember him doing a pretty decent job at getting XII some exposure (shame the game didn't do as good as he did) and if ignition does pick it back up, he would be a pretty decent choice. Maybe it would be better if instead of having someone from a publisher associated with the dev, have someone straight from the devs. Obv I don't kno if SNKP has the luxury to have someone like it but it def wouldn't hurt.
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side tournament or main, i'll be at evo2011, down to play 13 and whatever else people are running. :)
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If this is run at Evo 11, i'm assuming it won't be run under the ratio system?
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If this is run at Evo 11, i'm assuming it won't be run under the ratio system?
Nope. At a national level, XIII would most likely not run a ratio system.
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There needs to be some "KOFXIII themed" Hori and Madcatz sticks (and pads) for sale and promo before, during and after EVO... Think of how that helped out SF4...
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I would buy one.
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There needs to be some "KOFXIII themed" Hori and Madcatz sticks (and pads) for sale and promo before, during and after EVO... Think of how that helped out SF4...
Madkatz pads break too easily. They need to fix em. Plus I'd like to see them bring the neo geo themed usb controllers to PS3.
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There needs to be some "KOFXIII themed" Hori and Madcatz sticks (and pads) for sale and promo before, during and after EVO... Think of how that helped out SF4...
Madkatz pads break too easily. They need to fix em. Plus I'd like to see them bring the neo geo themed usb controllers to PS3.
The USB NeoGeo CD pads come out for PS3 tomorrow and the old-school NeoGeo 2 sticks are available for PS3. All are available from NCSX.
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New poll.
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I really hate that almost all the SNKP games are for the XBOX360, yet they still don't release a good kof or snk themed stick for it, there was a hori I think that looked horrible, like it was made by some guy in a basement
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I won't be able to go to Evo this year. I planned to but work gets really busy for me from late July to November. I'm seriously considering going to Power Up 2011 instead.
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I'll be there for sure if KoF XIII is there in any way, shape, or form, I mean I don't do this for nothing lol. And when I say that I don't mean I want money or recognition, I want to compete at my highest potential, with other talented players. Man I just hope they release it soon or announce it at the very least I just want people to play the game
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I'm most likely going to be there this year and I will of course enter.
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Yeah i'm going, and would much rather play kof 98 um, kof 2002 um, kof 13 than anything else. Though looking forward to Ah3 (hope it has a nice port) and MVC 3 also. I'm also joining sf w/e version even though i know i'll never make a semis, but i like to knock as many motherfuckers out the tournament as possible to make their trip feel like shit.
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Also though, what's up with a 13 home port. Is there ANY news regarding that soon?
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Within this month we should be knowing something about it, I hope
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My brother's wedding is on July 31st so I might have to miss Evo :(
UNLESS, of course, KoF was a Friday and Saturday only thing. Then maaaaybe I can make it.
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My brother's wedding is on July 31st so I might have to miss Evo :(
UNLESS, of course, KoF was a Friday and Saturday only thing. Then maaaaybe I can make it.
So far we have 4 people that will attend for sure and about 4-9 maybes, I'm sure the AI crew will be there so we are looking at around 16-20 people as of now. In that case the event will be a one day thing which will take about 4-6 hours.
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Alright, sweet. It's actually the 30th btw lol I messed up so it would have to be Friday only for me heh.
If this happened it'd be SO sweet!!!!!!
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if there is a kof13 event i will gladly sacrifice myself in it.
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Sorry if i missed this, but is there going to be any time for those who have never played the game to get a day or two in hands on before the tourney?
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Dag man, so no one can answer my question up above '_'; Ok so what about this one though, since you guys are playing on TE's on the Revelation stream, that means we can hook up ps 3 or xbox pads right? Also, is there going to be side 98 um or 2002 ?
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Dag man, so no one can answer my question up above '_'; Ok so what about this one though, since you guys are playing on TE's on the Revelation stream, that means we can hook up ps 3 or xbox pads right? Also, is there going to be side 98 um or 2002 ?
We are working on this at the moment, details will come very, very soon.
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Cool, thanks dood ;)
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Now that I hear there is going to be a KOF13 side tournament I'll definitely make an effort to attend. Any word on what day of the tournament it will be on?
UPDATE:
I have just secured hotel reservations and transportation. I'm gonna spread my madness all over Evo!
*Insert evil laughter here*
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I would love to go for sure but man I live all the way in Ontario california and I don't know who can give me a ride to EVO =[
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This is ganna be the best tournament so far.
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*Throws keyboard*
I can't make this (mad broke lol), but I will make it my business to make something like this in 2012 >:D.
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So after a lot of consideration I have decided that I want to compete in this side tournament. I realize I have not had much experience at this game, but I feel I should try my hand at it anyway. Also, if having more players will help generate hype for this event, then that is all the more reason I should compete as well.
All I need to know is what I need to do to sign up?
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I will be attending! I'm in San Diego for vacations and i will make it to Vegas before going back to Mexico.
I was hoping to find a KOF13 cabinet in San Diego... but i guess not :(
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What's up YYSU. Come up to Santa Ana sometime before EVO during the weekend so you could get some games in.
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What's up YYSU. Come up to Santa Ana sometime before EVO during the weekend so you could get some games in.
I'll see if i can make it some weekend... by the way, i've changed my nick to "El Rosa", that's how they know me in Mexico, haha.
Also, does anyone know if there's any KOF13 players from San Diego going to EVO? I'm trying to find someone to rideshare, or is there a thread about this topic?
Plase let me know!
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You may ask around the So.Cal thread although I'm not sure if there are any San Diego players lurking our forum. Here's the link.
http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?topic=88.0
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Thank You!
I hope to see a lot of KOF13 players in EVO!!!
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I've been reding the posts in the thread, and i can't get it clear...
Can anyone tell me if its FOR SURE that there will be a KOF13 side tournament in EVO?
I need to know, because i need to buy my airplane ticket back to mexico as soon as posslible so its cheaper.... and in case that nothing is happenig then it would not be worth for me to travel all the way to Vegas.
Thanks koffers!
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I've been reding the posts in the thread, and i can't get it clear...
Can anyone tell me if its FOR SURE that there will be a KOF13 side tournament in EVO?
I need to know, because i need to buy my airplane ticket back to mexico as soon as posslible so its cheaper.... and in case that nothing is happenig then it would not be worth for me to travel all the way to Vegas.
Thanks koffers!
You are consider an international player, so go ahead and PM me and I'll give you some details.
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I sent you a message, did you get it?
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I will be at Evo and I will definitely participate. Unfortunately I will get bodied. There are zero KOFXIII cabs in close proximity to where I live. So much stuff to learn!
THE ANSWER: I edited your post if you have any questions please let me know.
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Question: Who is going to stream KOF XIII @EVO since it won't be on the either of the two streams?
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Stream? I thought that was only for the official games?
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SF4 and MVC3 on Stream 1, MK9 and Tekken 6 on Stream 2. We know the damn KOF XIII board will be there, I'd personally much rather watch that over SF4 at the very least.
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SF4 and MVC3 on Stream 1, MK9 and Tekken 6 on Stream 2. We know the damn KOF XIII board will be there, I'd personally much rather watch that over SF4 at the very least.
I'm with you on that brotha, and lets hope for the best.
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I will be at Evo and I will definitely participate. Unfortunately I will get bodied. There are zero KOFXIII cabs in close proximity to where I live. So much stuff to learn!
You won't be the only inexperienced player there. I only got to play this game once, but I intend on showing up and giving it a go anyway.
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SF4 and MVC3 on Stream 1, MK9 and Tekken 6 on Stream 2. We know the damn KOF XIII board will be there, I'd personally much rather watch that over SF4 at the very least.
I hope there will be a stream for KOF XIII
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I won't rely on the official EVO streams to have KOF XIII there. I am hoping there can be a solution brought to light.
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Damn I wish I could go to EVO. It sounds like its going to be Epic for KOF XIII.
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@Anyone in charge. Have you guys considered talking to Mr.Wiz about a possible stream? Essentially every single streaming group is going to be there and I know at least one of them is interested in KOF13. However I have no idea if they'll be able to take time to stream KOF13 cause they'll probably be busy with the main games. It never hurts to ask though.
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for further details please see the official thread.
http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?topic=1071.msg20606#new