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Title: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: nothingxs on June 25, 2014, 06:03:31 PM
Hello everyone!

I'm Andres and I'm here to let you know that I'm the Organizer for KOF XIII this year at Evolution 2014. A lot of you will remember that I took ownership of KOF XIII last year in 2013 at EVO, and we finished on time and had a great time.

I'm here to ask for your help! I want to know who you think the top seeds should be! We did not have a Road to Evo 2014 this year like we did in the last year, so I figured that I'd peek my head in to see what you all thought. There are a lot of events and, to be frank, KOF XIII is such a global game that there are people from all over the world that we may miss that should rightfully be seeded for the event, so any help you can give us when we determine who our seeds would be will be fantastic.

Please feel free to discuss in this thread! (Most importantly, try to keep it mostly civil.)

Thanks for your time!
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: desmond_kof on June 25, 2014, 06:27:21 PM
Sup man, I stickied this thread for more people can view it and discuss their thoughts easier. We might bring this question up on our podcast tonight.

As far as my thoughts, I would need to think this over and I'll post them later.

Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: nothingxs on June 25, 2014, 06:36:47 PM
I appreciate it! :D
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: Frofighter on June 25, 2014, 07:28:42 PM
Reynald and Tokido are the top two contenders right now IMO, but that's not to say that a surprise won't happen. It's kind of funny how Tokido has emerged at the top of the Japanese scene considering how all the hype surrounded other Japanese players in the past (Kaoru and Haregoro for example). Korea has kind of fallen off with MadKOF not looking as strong and (as per Koogle Translator) many of the CafeId guys not finding as much time to play (sadly). Don't even know who would make it from Mexico, because I am sure I would place at least one contender to win from there should their top players show up.

Outside the winner, I hope (assuming he's there) that Zero Black has his true breakout performance. He was on the cusp of making top 8 in 2012 and let a pretty huge lead slip against Tokido in 2013. This is partially due my hope that a Terry players makes the grade at last. He is mad good but has had issues keeping his nerve. He is my pick for a dark horse.
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: nothingxs on June 25, 2014, 08:02:45 PM
I should be clearer: think of the top 8 / 16 / 32 players in no particular order and list them out. You don't have to be thorough. You can just list 8. You can list 16. Maybe just list a number in between! But at least give me your 8 :)

Your reasoning is helpful too, but in reality I want to hear what the community in general thinks.
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: Merkilo on June 25, 2014, 10:56:09 PM
majors throughout this year don't count towards seeding?
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: choysauce on June 25, 2014, 11:55:17 PM
Assuming everyone in the world can attend:

-MadKOF
-Verna
-Bala
-Khannibalito
-Romance
-Reynald
-Tokido
-Fox
-Mr. KOF
-Woo
-Rest of last year's top 16
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: desmond_kof on June 26, 2014, 12:18:47 AM
Reynald
BALA
Khannibalito
Violent Kain
KOOPA
Mario E
Tokido
SoleChris
Romance
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: HaxMurderer on June 26, 2014, 12:31:23 AM
Some thoughts from twitter.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b325/Tomibiki/twitterKOFdiscx.png) (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/Tomibiki/media/twitterKOFdiscx.png.html)
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: KLSADAKO on June 26, 2014, 12:52:48 AM
Reynalds
Tokido
Madkof
Koopa
Verna
Misterio
Yang Yao Ren
Luis Cha
Volent Kain
Woo
Kula
FOX
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: sonnywortzik on June 26, 2014, 03:37:52 AM
Reynald
MR. KOF
Romance
Kanibalito
Tokido
Xian
Woo
Rinomoto
M'
Dune
Sange
Kaoru
KouKou
Gutts
MADkof
Verna
Lacid
Bala
Kleber Yagami
Toshi
Violent Kain
ZeroBlack
Misterio
KOOPA
Luis Cha
MXL Juan
Xiao Hai
Dakou
Yin Yao Ren
ET
Fox
Tom Sawyer
Piccolo
Frionel
Salim
Luffy
Huevo
Pako


Sorry I went a little over than 32. I find these guys to be amazing players!
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: DJMirror949 on June 26, 2014, 05:08:52 AM
Tokido had to be 1st seed tho since he's currently the strongest right now
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: Dynicksty on June 26, 2014, 05:15:03 AM
definite seeds besides the obvious top 3 placers from 2013:

Tokido
Misterio
Xian
Violent Kain
Koukou
M'
ET
Yang Yao Ren
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: a11111357 on June 26, 2014, 03:26:28 PM
ET
Ren
Reynald
Bala
MadKOF
Verna
Lacid
Romance
FOX
KouKou
Mr.KOF
XiaHai
Frionel
Dakou
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: Killey on July 01, 2014, 06:38:16 PM
Honestly, we should first take a look at major tournament results of 2014 and then give priority seeding to the players who made top 3 because they earned them. After wards, we can go over who should be seeded based on how the community feels their skill level is. Based on what I've read from FB/Twitter Reynald, Romance, Fox, Koopa and Bala won't be attending Evo this year so I'll be excluding them from this list.

1) Tokido - Should be given the best seed because he's the most consistent tournament player this year. He's recently won KoF at  IGT2014, NWM6, and SEAM2014.

2) Luis Cha - Outside of Reynald, he's probably the 2nd most consistent tournament player this year. 1st at Japanawa 2014, 1st at Stunfest 2014, 2nd at CEO2014, 4th at SCR2014

Besides these two I'm not sure about the order of seeding the following players.

Violent Kain - 2nd place at Japonawa2014 and 9th at SCR2014. Probably the most consistent player with the EX Iori rekka loops
Khannibalito - 1st at SCR2014, 2nd at Hyper Battle
Woo - 2nd at Evo2013.
MadKoF - 1st at Evo2012, 3rd at Evo2013
Verna - 2 time top 8 placement at Evo
ET - 2nd at IGT2014

The above would be my top 8 seeds based on tournament track record for the year as well as past Evo performances. I would also seed the following players.

Toshi
Javier
Huevo
Pako
Mr.KoF
Ricky Diaz
Chris KoF
Lacid
Ren
Xian
Frionel
KouKou
M'
Dune
Sange Tenchou
Haregoro
Gutts
Misterio
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: KLSADAKO on July 01, 2014, 09:48:06 PM


2) Luis Cha - Outside of Reynald, he's probably the 2nd most consistent tournament player this year. 1st at Japanawa 2014, 1st at Stunfest 2014, 2nd at CEO2014, 4th at SCR2014



Luis was actually 2nd at Stunfest to Salim

If we go on tournament placings then Misterio should be one of the top seeds.

this year he won:
-MALIGNO CUP
-VGM TEC 2014
-U.A.F.G
-Torneo Fighter 2.1
-4th at CEO

Not to mention owning both Reynald and Luis at Money matches..

I heard on SDR that Verna is a doubt.
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: Killey on July 01, 2014, 09:52:39 PM
Ah sorry my bad I should have double checked the results. Misterio should definitely get a higher seed spot with those tourney results.

Also, here's a list of the international players heading to Evo this year.

http://team0z.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/evo14%E6%B5%B7%E5%A4%96%E3%81%AE%E3%83%97%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A4%E3%83%BC%E5%87%BA%E5%B8%AD%E3%80%82evo14-international-roster-attendance/ (http://team0z.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/evo14%E6%B5%B7%E5%A4%96%E3%81%AE%E3%83%97%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A4%E3%83%BC%E5%87%BA%E5%B8%AD%E3%80%82evo14-international-roster-attendance/)

It's not a complete list by any means but now we can get a better idea of who's attending and which players should be getting seeds.
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: nothingxs on July 02, 2014, 05:06:31 AM
Alright dudes, thanks a lot for your help!

Please go ahead and check out the live brackets. http://evo2014.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/index.html (http://evo2014.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/index.html)

If you have any concerns with the brackets themselves, go to the bottom left of the page, click on "send feedback," select the box / name of the person under the 'specific' tag (or just send a concern about the whole page) and let us know what you think. Your discussion was very helpful during the process!

oh god is it under two weeks for evo

oh god oh god
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: Killey on July 02, 2014, 09:46:20 AM
Definitely sending some feedback on these pools because there's some pools that are incredibly stacked while other pools being very light.

For example, at the time I'm writing this pool I29 has Sange Tencho vs Mr.KoF in round one of the pool.
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: Emil_kof on July 06, 2014, 11:39:32 AM
I don't think it's fair to have Jinpachi Taki in the same pool H21, as Woo. Jinpachi is a strong Japanese player that competes in the Nishinipporri Versus weeklies and although he doesn't have tournament results to seed him, I don't think he should be in that pool.

Kyabetsu with Dakou in pool H23 seems questionable as well. Dakou will probably come out in losers from this pool.

Pam is a good japanese player (though not as strong as Jinpachi or Kyabetsu), might be questionable to put him in pool H26 with Verna.
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: desmond_kof on July 07, 2014, 05:50:01 AM
I don't think it's fair to have Jinpachi Taki in the same pool H21, as Woo. Jinpachi is a strong Japanese player that competes in the Nishinipporri Versus weeklies and although he doesn't have tournament results to seed him, I don't think he should be in that pool.


Agreed, because I gotta face him the very first round, lol.

EDIT: Never mind, someone else is in his place.
Title: Re: EVO 2014 KOF XIII - Player Seeding, Who Should the Top Seeds Be?
Post by: Hisoka_Knives on July 10, 2014, 07:53:44 PM
Will we be able to watch the KOF13 Pools? I just see the finals being streamed but i wanted to watch the rest.