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King of Fighters XIII => General Discussion => Topic started by: Eripio69 on May 06, 2011, 11:36:01 AM
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Ok this thread guys is about which characters we desire and we want to see in the console version. Please don't delete it or merge it with port wish list thread cause I plan to update the OP so we can see which is the most desired character that people would like to see. Ok mines are Rock Howard, SHermie, Blue Mary, John Crawley (one can always hope right?:P:P)
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Character - Votes
Blue Mary - 5
Angel - 4
Vanessa - 4
Oswald - 3
Shermie - 2
Rock Howard - 2
Whip - 2
Chris - 1
John Crawley - 1
Eiji Kisaragi - 1
Richard Meyer - 1
Bob Wilson - 1
Duck King - 1
Gato - 1
Butt - 1
Tizoc - 1
Chang -1
Jhun - 1
Jubei Yamada - 1
May Lee - 1
Tung Fu Rue - 1
Adelheid - 1
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Priority order:
1-Blue Mary
2-Shermie
3-Eiji Kisagari
I know, an strange team... xD
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Don't we already have the Home-port Wishlist thread (http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?topic=297.180) for this?
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Well it doesn't have to be a team :D The purpose of the thread is to decide which is the most desirable character that SNKp did not include in the arcade roster
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Don't we already have the Home-port Wishlist thread (http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?topic=297.180) for this?
Is it hard to read OP before posting?
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It's still too redundant.
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It's still too redundant.
Ok just ignore it then :)
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PaoPao Café team: Richard Meyer, Bob Wilson and Duck King
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Vanessa
Whip
Angel
Too bad it probably won't happen.
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Vote me in for Rock!
How about adding:
Gato
Butt
and Tizoc :)
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Vanessa
Whip
Angel
Too bad it probably won't happen.
If Angel is in the game=Mexico wins LOL.
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Vanessa
Anything else is extra.
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Blue Mary,Vanessa,Angel/Whip and, I think Oswald deserves to be in the game since he XI was his only game...
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Brown and Silver
Have fun with that :)
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Chang and Jhun to finish team Korea.
Jubei Yamada to finish the other Fatal Fury team.
These are the characters the closest ones to being done.
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Blue Mary,Chris,Angel,Oswald
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May Leeeeeee
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Blue Mary (Memory of Stray Wolves design! Needs Android 18 colors too!)
Oswald (To Cool to not be here)
Vanessa (She's MADE for HD mode!)
Tung Fu Rue (So many DBZ reference colors in this game, so we need Muten Roshii!)
Adelheid (Honorable mention. Really should be the playable Sub Boss)
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Characters that should be in XIII are:
Adelheid
Malin
Oswald
Momoko
Botan
Since they were brand new characters that debuted during the Ash Saga.
The character I want to be playable the most is Chizuru. I know the chance of this happening is practically none but it's hard not to have you old main playable at all. It's not like she's a side character. At least you Iori players still have him in the game in some form. Sadly Chizuru can't do anything but sulk without her powers.
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Surprised people have forgotten about this blog post.
http://game.snkplaymore.co.jp/official/kof-xiii/blog/archives/2010/08/post_28.html
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I don't know, if SNKP gave a reason to revive mature and vice, the new face team should be here too
Vanessa Ramon and Blue Mary made a great team, the anti kyokugen guys too, add may lee, xiangfei and hinako, and the game is done for me
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Blue Mary
Angel
Yamazaki
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Here are the characters I wish that could make it to KOFXIII:
Momoko - Because she is adorable and is so fun to play her, but she needs better DMs.
Oswald - Can't go wrong with this guy, one of the best designs done by SNKP.
Yamazaki - I will kill to see him in HD, this guy is just badass all the way.
Adelheid - He must be in the game because he plays a important role in the story, besides he is awesome.
Vanessa - Another character that is so awesome, I can't wait to see her in fluid HD sprites.
Shion - This is another excellent character by SNKP, she is just awesome! And yes I said She, because I refuse to think she is a guy. Damn it SNKP, you and your stupid decisions!
Possible Teams with these characters:
Athena, Kensou & Momoko - Neo Psycho Sodiers
Takuma, Chin & Oswald - Old Masters
Ash, Shen & Oswald - XI Hero Team
Duo Lon, Vanessa & Oswald - Undercover Assassins
Mai, King & Vanessa - Beautiful Women Team
Athena, Yuri & Momoko - Teen Team
Raiden, Hwa & Yamazaki - Criminal Team
And Adelheid can have 3 life bars, that is all he needs. lol
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Just as a point of interest, I'd like to mention that the arcade version of XII was released on April 10th, 2009 with 20 characters. XIII released on July 14th, 2010 with 31 playable characters.
So, 15 months (and four days) = 11 new characters (minus two head-swaps if you like, for at least 9 completely new playable characters).
If you imagine XIII getting released next month, for the sake of argument let's assume June 14th, that would be 11 months between arcade and console versions.
Theoretically, that would be enough for at least six console exclusives. I doubt they would include that many, though. Even if they had the time, I expect they'd make some of those DLC or something.
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Surprised people have forgotten about this blog post.
http://game.snkplaymore.co.jp/official/kof-xiii/blog/archives/2010/08/post_28.html
Yea, I sure did. Also, this page has some cool ideas for the stages:
http://game.snkplaymore.co.jp/official/kof-xiii/blog/archives/2010/08/post_28.html
I'm not sure if those were just blueprints for the first ones, or maybe they could be the extra stages?
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you guys are forgetting that they probably had started woerking on most of these news sptrites back in 12 dev time. most of them where actually on the disc info, so i dont know just how many sprites they made in that time.
some fun teams for 13 console:
yamazaki, oswald, adelheid.
geese, krauser, mr big or billy.
mary, vanessa, anhel.
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The sprites were not on the disk. Only the names were. They probably wanted to leave themselves lots of leeway for future DLC.
And while they probably did start work on the new XIII sprites during the tail end of XII's development, you can assume they did the same thing with XIII's console sprites.
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I Vote GEESE HOWARD!
Followed by vanessa, billy, SHERmie, and hmmmm billy or lin I guess
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Adelheid above all
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actually i just want to see new chars, dont care for the past.
I see why ppl d like to see Mary,Vanessa and Angel, and to tell the truth i d be quite curious myself BUT i rather see new challengers xD
Still...a big fat chang (like the one on the kof13blog) would be sick hehe
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i dont see how people wouldnt want to see yamazaki or oswald?
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i dont see how people wouldnt want to see yamazaki or oswald?
My only worry about Oswald would be that SNK would simply copy/paste his moves from XI. For the most part, his moves are already designed to be free-canceled, so what would he need to Drive Cancel? His HD combos seem like they'd be really brain-dead too.
Basically, if you take a combo-heavy character (K' or Kula, for example) and put them into a combo-heavy game (like XIII), you get a really broken character. And Oswald has the potential to be worse than both of them.
Obviously, they could re-make Oswald to make him a balanced and fun character. But after XIII Kula, there's no guarantee of that. I would like to see Oswald return eventually.
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i dont see how people wouldnt want to see yamazaki or oswald?
My only worry about Oswald would be that SNK would simply copy/paste his moves from XI. For the most part, his moves are already designed to be free-canceled, so what would he need to Drive Cancel? His HD combos seem like they'd be really brain-dead too.
Basically, if you take a combo-heavy character (K' or Kula, for example) and put them into a combo-heavy game (like XIII), you get a really broken character. And Oswald has the potential to be worse than both of them.
Obviously, they could re-make Oswald to make him a balanced and fun character. But after XIII Kula, there's no guarantee of that. I would like to see Oswald return eventually.
It's such a shame because SNKP must have spent the most time designing Oswald (in KOF history IMO) with all his wires and situational height-and-distance juggles and character specific cancel system; he definitely wasn't a last-min-job or something. Take away his ACE damage and of course his unblockable df.A and he was one of the few top tier characters that actually took skill to really learn him.
If they can balance out Duo Lon (kinda) from his '03 version, then can do the same for Oswald.
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That is a good point on Oswald, but I think SNKP could place him in the same category as Goro and Maxima, in which they don't have too many Drive Cancellable moves. He would only need the Drive cancel to cancel to him DMs.
Or maybe they could limit him to have 3 predetermine combinations. Like qcb+Px3, qcf+LPx3 and qcf+HPx3. And then you will be force to Drive cancel if you go to any of the others. Specially forcing the player to Drive cancel if you wan to do do the wall bounce. After the wallbounce maybe you can use an EX version of any of the 3 combinations to relaunch to wallbounce or just finish the combo. He will still be fun to play nevertheless.
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Just give me Billy Kane, Heavy D!, Lin, Gai Tendo, Gato, Marco Rodriguez, and Adelheid and I'm good to go!!!
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That is a good point on Oswald, but I think SNKP could place him in the same category as Goro and Maxima, in which they don't have too many Drive Cancellable moves. He would only need the Drive cancel to cancel to him DMs.
Or maybe they could limit him to have 3 predetermine combinations. Like qcb+Px3, qcf+LPx3 and qcf+HPx3. And then you will be force to Drive cancel if you go to any of the others. Specially forcing the player to Drive cancel if you wan to do do the wall bounce. After the wallbounce maybe you can use an EX version of any of the 3 combinations to relaunch to wallbounce or just finish the combo. He will still be fun to play nevertheless.
Great ideas! I think they can make special conditions for him somewhat similar to Duo Lon's f.A. His f.A acts as a command move but can be drive canceled into, in which it acts as a special so if you do qcf+P x3, [DC] f+A, you have to [DC] out if you want to do qcf+P again. Otherwise, DL's s.C, f+A, qcf+P x3 does not require a [DC]. Chin also have freecancels and [DC] links so I'm sure they can figure something out.
The more I think of it, just treat it like any rekkas and just make it necessary to [DC] off the 3rd special into a 4th hit (maybe Ex only), much like Mature's links.
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The more I think of it, just treat it like any rekkas and just make it necessary to [DC] off the 3rd special into a 4th hit (maybe Ex only), much like Mature's links.
Indeed that is my idea basically. They could also make his wallbounce move (QCF+K) a move by itself, so you want to cancel to it, it will be a Drive Cancel. And keep the rest of his moves like they are, that is another possibility.
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late and nothing to do, wadda think of this:
XIII Yamazaki:
snake fist: ;dn ;db ;bk ;a or ;b or ;c. hold button 4 secs for free EX or cancel with ;d. normal EX done with ;a ;c
Dust kick: ;dn ;db ;bk ;d. EX done with ;b ;d
knife: ;fd ;dn ;df ;a or ;c. EX with ;a ;c
double return: ;dn ;df ;fd ;a or ;c. 98um rb2 style yamazaki, one to store and other to return whenever you want. EX with ;a ;c
Axe kick: ;fd ;dn ;df ;b or ;d. ;b for quick 1 hit version and ;d for double hitting high then low version. ;b and ;d for EX.
Counter: ;bk ;db ;dn ;df ;fd ;b or ;d. ;b for low and ;d for high counter. ;b and ;d for EX.
Command grab: ;bk ;db ;dn ;df ;fd ;a or ;c. EX with ;a and ;c.
;dn ;df ;fd x2 ;a or ;c for guilotine. ;a and ;c for EX.
;fd ;df ;dn ;db ;bk x2 ;a or ;c for drill. ;a and ;c for EX.
NM.
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What would his EX moves do?
I would like to see Yamazaki have ;dn ;db ;bk+ ;d be a grab/bring over move, kinda like Vice Move.
I can just imagine the possibilities.
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EX snake fist would be tripple snake fist from RBS but faster and last high hitting one to actually guide opponent back in your direction for an additional juggle.
dust kick like in the cvs games, hitting low. EX hits low, instant and dust travels. on hit opponent gets stun like from kulas EX breath or shens ex grab. so you can hit them but they will get launched/fall afterwards (so you cant just start a combo from normals).
EX knife would be like omega 98 rugals ;fd ;df ;dn ;db ;bk moves wher he goes though you but the hits hit later (kinda like gen too). grounded opponent gets hit by all hits and takes full damage. juggled opponent only gets hit a little for minor damage, but follow up should be possible in exchange. gounded opponent should be slammed into the ground after taking the ex by a final downward hitting slash so follow ups shouldnt be possible.
double return to work like 98um rb2 version of yamazaki. EX would fire a lightning fast firebal on the upward animation of the firebal for a full screen fast punish. if opponent shoots firebal during the sequence they get hit by your upwards fb, yamazaki absorbs your fb through it and double returns a second fb fast enough to always hit the opponent if this where to happen. the full damage should also only be when you counter your opponents fb with the EX version (so you get 2 fb's, kinda like eijis ex dm from 98um or 2k2um?).
EX axe kick has full invicibillety so it can be used as a dp and grounds opponents without chance to roll recover. light version cant be done from lights and hits only once (think cvs version) while the hard one would hit twice (kof 98 style) but first can be blocked high, also comboable from light attacks. with EX version he should also lunge himself in the air with the upward kick. his only EX with invincibiletty frames.
EX counter should counter both high and low hits and hit twice, one upward attack and another smash down attack after which they should bounce (like from ioris 13 command throw) for a potential juggle. it should look something like francos double kong from rb2 but not as low.
EX command grab should be like all other EX command grabs, have huge range and do good damage. starts of with a knee to the face, than slams you into the ground like in his ex dm's but only does it once, after which the opponent bounces back up to be hit by yamazakis biggest headbut yet, sending the opponent flying to the end of the screen at high speed. should be dc cancelable during hit.
super and ex versions of them should be the same as in the previous kof games. super throw should have weak distance but good damage and only be max cancelable. same for ex throw but longer range and more damage.
NM could be something that starts of like kyo whos throws the flame. instead yamazakis throws his knife, if it hits he flies full speed after it and performs a crazy double handed snake fist ranbu finishing in a double handed drill.
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That sound like fun, but at the same time it sound like he will be overpowered. But then that would depend how much damage he would do per move.
For NeoMax I would prefer him to do his actual level 3 DM, well the one he has in 2002 and 2003. Yet I like how you made it start, which is by throwing the knife. It reminds me to K' Chain Drive, which makes it automatically awesome. lol
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more like a non overpowered ultimate form. he doesnt have any crazy juggle properties and only invicibillety on EX axe kick and guilotine supers. his ex double return wouldnt be overpowered, and it would only do good damage if it hit both hits and countered a fb with it. not to mention to combo on from such a distance you need to spend more meter on non damaging ex'es. or waste all meter on his NM. EX knife would be full screen punish but no invinc. EX dust kick tarvels futher and crumples, but doesnt allow tjat much more damage cause like kulas and shen ex, as soon as you hitn them theyd fall (meaning you cant start a ground combo with normals afterwards). EX counter like chins where you can continue but only juggle them onwards, and since yamazakis juggles aint big it doesnt even matter that much (he has to waste a lot of meters for good juggle damage). EX grab would be awesome, only after DC cancelling and possibly wasting supermeters with it can it become somewhat damaging. i think he would be the perfect contender for kof 13 console or kof 14.
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If you could cut down the number of moves Yamazaki has, then it would be a more realistic movelist because let's face it: no one in XIII has than many moves.
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At least to 4-5 moves plus 1-2 DM and NM then that be realistic
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um, yamazaki has always had this many moves in kof. check out yamazaki in kof 98, exact same moveset. only thing i changed was the aqxe kick and dust kick, which in 98 have the same motion dp+K, cept different strength of kick is used. instead i changed that to axe kick on dp motion and dust kick to qcb+D since that didnt do anything on its own. its just 98 yamazaki guys, nothing more in terms of amount of moves. a little different in how the moves work (properties of 98 yama and 98yamarb2 version mixed together) but still the same amount of moves. yamazaki has ALWAYS had these tools, and he still wouldnt be anytyhing near kula, raiden, lizzy or k broken. hed just be fair, and probably a good matychup against raiden too.
edit: id like to add that most of his moves use the minimal amount of frames needed for a move. most of yamazakis moves are very easy to animate and take very little in the amount of frames needed per move. also you guys say hes got too many moves?
K:
fb
fb fb
fb upkick
teleport
qcb kick move
qcbx2 kick move that slides.
dp
2 dms
1nm
7 moves for yamazaki is not too much imo. also i would like to point out that ex moves do cost super bar, so im really not getting the overpowered part? whats overpowered about him? theres nothing he can do better than k or kula, any reasons as to why he would be overpowered? 98 yama was never overpowered, he was a 4 star general. not even 5 star (k, kula, lizzy, raiden, shen, kyo to name a few in 13). i think this way hed be like ralph, not overpowered, and takes skill to use. but once you do use him properly, hes strong, still not overpowered.
just for giggles, robert:
fb
dp
command grab
multikick
airkick
flying kick
hes got all these moves, 2 dm's and nm and all those special properties with his ex moves, and he sill isnt overpowered. i think hes another one of those 4start generals, yamazaki would pretty much be the same. both cant do big damage and need to spend meter for good damage. last edit, hope you guys see my point.
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im actually glad to see that people want blue mary in XIII
also i would love to see kasumi in this game
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um, yamazaki has always had this many moves in kof.
I'm not saying that he hasn't. I'm just saying that if you want him to be in XIII, he can't have all those moves. Some cuts will have to be made. It's only fair since all characters in this game have skimpy movelists.
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If I may... I'd say:
- Geese Howard (to have Geese is a must in console versions and he is too great to not be in next gen KOF)
- Adelheid Bernstein (after his presence in 2003 and XI and having his sister announcing KOFXIII is just wrong that he wasn't in the game from the arcade release)
btw where the hell Ron and the other guys are gone?
- Krizalid (I know he is a boss character but he is too cool to not be bringed back as a normal playable character, I would love to see him in a sort of NESTS returns Team, maybe with Nameless, in a future chapter of the game)
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Genocide, according to the story Geese is dead. :P
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Genocide, according to the story Geese is dead. :P
even at the time of KOF 96 he was dead if I remember correctly so there is always hope... ;)
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I know he was in dream matches, but those really don't count to the storyline. Maybe if they make a UM / Dream Match version of 13, it'd be fine. :3
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I know he was in dream matches, but those really don't count to the storyline. Maybe if they make a UM / Dream Match version of 13, it'd be fine. :3
I was referring to KOF'96, he was there and it wasn't a dream match (there was even BIG) and KOF storyline differs from FF if I remember correctly, because so we can use AOF chars that should be much more older. I believe that he can be put in either case as a console character for KOF XIII as they have already done a lot of times a not only in dream matches (as they have made in KOFXI).
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SNK Wikia = "The major difference from this series's continuity than others is the fact that Geese is still alive. An interview with Neo Geo Freak reveals that this is mostly due to the fact that the King of Fighters development team wasn't initially aware about Geese's fate in the Real Bout series. Once they heard about it, the developers from Real Bout team approved his appearance in the series due to their desires to create the Boss Team. Additionally, Geese's profile statistics during this series are the same ones for Fatal Fury Special (excluding his age)."
He actually died at the end of Fatal Fury Special, so 96 wasn't too unbelievable that he was there. In later versions they put him as Nightmare Geese, who was a ghost of Geese himself. Most of those games were dream matches anyways.
KOFXI was a bonus character featured as a sort of dream-match thing, like UM versions. There's no reason Tung / Big / Robert would be there. They just used characters from NGBC as a PS2 exclusive.
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You know what would be fun? If they created a Son of Boss team. Rock Howard, Adelheid, and Sinobu (son of Goenitz). I would play the shit out of that team and it would satisfy anyone who wants Geese and Rugal back.
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Mirror'd from Here (http://atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9085)
"Momoko or Malin, although Shermie really should be in KOF.
I really want Kojiroh, but unfortunately it won't ever happen."
We need Sanada Kojiroh in KOF. Being serious.
Rock would actually be really cool in KOFXIII, and so would Shion. Too bad Shion's dead too.
Shingo / Okina / Rock? (Lol, Okina.)
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FF timeline: Geese died at the end of Real Bout Fatal Fury. This is referenced in Real Bout 2 and MOTW.
KOF timeline: Geese never died. He appears in the story for KOF 2003. He's the one who organizes Billy, Yamazaki and Gato into a team.
In my opinion, he shouldn't be included as a simple extra. This is goddamn Geese Howard. The ORIGINAL SNK boss. He needs to return to the series in style, as a headlining-villain. It just feels wrong to have him as a normal character (IMO).
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If you get Geese, can I have Kojiroh? (LB2 is based in the year 2023 or something like that.)
Wait, geese in is 2003? Wat. Official KOF2003 (http://game.snkplaymore.co.jp/official/kof2003/character/team_top.html)
EDIT : I translated the official Gekka no Kenshi page for Kojiroh. Here's what you get.
Date of birth: March 02, 1995
Age: 28 years
and other misc information that isn't relevant.
And for Washizuka (which was the only other character I could find which I could actually understand the Engrish)
Date of birth: May 20, 1996
Age: 27 years
:3
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Wait, geese in is 2003? Wat. Official KOF2003 (http://game.snkplaymore.co.jp/official/kof2003/character/team_top.html)
He appears in the story for KOF 2003. He's the one who organizes Billy, Yamazaki and Gato into a team.
2003 Outlaw team story (http://kofaniv.snkplaymore.co.jp/english/history/kof2003_story/index.php?num=outlow)
I think you may have to wait for NGBC2 for Kojiroh. Or, God willing, Last Blade 3.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
I don't think either one will ever happen. < / 3
Anyways, I guess you're right, he isn't dead according to KOF. I guess he survived the second fall in FF after all.
Edit : That, or he doesn't die if he's killed.
(http://pidkuonline.com/e107_images/custom/neverdead.jpg)
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well if i had anything to say about it, it would be:
Ryuji Yamazaki
Oswald
Geese
Krauser
Blue Mary
Anhel
Vanessa
Gai
Silber.
pretty much the coolest and most diverse characters not in KOF XIII.
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Too bad Shion's dead too.
Shion is not dead, he just ran away.
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96 Boss Team.
/thread.
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Musolini, why so many Bureki One characters?
Maybe Oswald and Geese.
Ramon > Krauser. Ramon is a more refined, defined character who is also based on Tiger Mask.
Maybe Sonia / Tane / Okuni for female characters, and Okina / Bonus-kun (lol) / Karasu.
Pretty sure Shion is dead.
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FF timeline: Geese died at the end of Real Bout Fatal Fury. This is referenced in Real Bout 2 and MOTW.
KOF timeline: Geese never died. He appears in the story for KOF 2003. He's the one who organizes Billy, Yamazaki and Gato into a team.
In my opinion, he shouldn't be included as a simple extra. This is goddamn Geese Howard. The ORIGINAL SNK boss. He needs to return to the series in style, as a headlining-villain. It just feels wrong to have him as a normal character (IMO).
I agree with you but I want him to be playable and balanced as well.
96 Boss Team.
/thread.
and I agree with this too
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Broken and Banned Exclusive Characters? No, thanks
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Pretty sure Shion is dead.
He is presumably still alive since...
[spoiler]he kills Magaki from the gate.[/spoiler]
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Who I want (in no particular order):
Geese / Krauser / Heidern (backstage manipulators team or "Rugal took something from each of us" team)
Yamazaki / Oswald / Billy Kane (hired guns team)
Blue Mary / Vanessa / Jhun (streetwise cop team)
Yashiro / Shermie / Chris ("Vice and Mature are back so why not the rest of the Orochi" team)
Mr. Big / Krizalid / Seth (too pimp team)
Who I expect:
USA Sports team ;)
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i would like the anti KKR team though mostly for kasumi
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He is presumably still alive since...
[spoiler]he kills Magaki from the gate.[/spoiler]
(http://pidkuonline.com/e107_images/custom/neverdead.jpg)
Lucky isn't featured in enough games, maybe we could get the American Sports team back together. That is, if the invites aren't stolen.
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Lucky isn't featured in enough games, maybe we could get the American Sports team back together. That is, if the invites aren't stolen.
No steal 'em we need '96 Boss Team
and maybe a new Outlaw team (Yamazaki, Billy, and, why not?, Oswald (or Geese if there isn't place for '96 Boss Team))
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I'd definitely want to get Yamazaki,Geese, and Billy that would make a great team. I'd love to see Eiji and Heidren come back and I definitely wouldn't mind seeing Shingo come back in the mix either.
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Pretty sure Shion is dead.
They even mention in XIII that "Magaki is dead, Shion is missing." In fighting games, "missing" is the complete opposite of dead.
Shion was a cool character and I'd love to see him make a surprise return. His style would have to be re-vamped, but I can live with that.
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Adel, Botan has sub boss characters would be a great addition, I kinda wish they would they would include Mukai and Shion in the mix
and a playable Saiki with more work done ( animation, dm's, neomax)
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and a playable Saiki with more work done ( animation, dm's, neomax)
Since they use Normal Saiki (yeah. dat ctr+c ctrl+v ash and balance him)
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Angel. Everybody from Mexico agrees.
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All I'm asking for is Botan, Shroom, Rimelo (TFTP team), Adelheid and Oswald. A lot of others I'd ask for already are making cameo appearances in the backgrounds.
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Botan, Shroom, Rimelo
None of these characters have any fighting credibility, and are all extremely lame from a design stand-point, save Botan who is kinda hot, but, those two kids... ugh... can it get any dumber? Do we really want more brats in KOF?
We need more men like Terry and Ryo, or a womanly women like King. Vanessa would do just fine... but I'd take Rick Strowd too.
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I honestly can't tell Shroom and Rimelo apart, but only one of them looks like a kid. The blond-haired one doesn't seem any younger than Kyo or Iori. And they definitely have fighting credibility, since they were able to pose a threat to both Kyo and Heidern.
Anyway, I'm sure SNK could make it work. And some new characters would be nice. I'd definitely prefer them to Saiki or Dark Ash.
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Well Shroom and Rimelo could work, Shroom would be cool to see, specially on the design of the bottom. Rimelo could work as a substitute of Miu Kurosaki.
(http://game.snkplaymore.co.jp/official/kof-xiii/blog/100826_harukeshi.jpg)
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We need more men like Terry and Ryo
How about a pre-killed Mukai?
Vanessa would do just fine
I'd agree if she wasn't already making a cameo appearance.
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Well Shroom and Rimelo could work, Shroom would be cool to see, specially on the design of the bottom. Rimelo could work as a substitute of Miu Kurosaki.
(http://game.snkplaymore.co.jp/official/kof-xiii/blog/100826_harukeshi.jpg)
Yeah, all of those characters look like shit and don't belong in KOF, save for Mukai, who at least looks like a badass.
SNK needs to bring back more of the classic characters, or at least design a character around a good martial art, and not make it a cutesy female character. Some Buriki One characters would fit right in... bring back Gai Tendo, and get Rob Python in there.
Although what I would really like to see from SNK is a black woman. Also I love that one palette for Vanessa in 2k2. Ya know what? Vanessa should of been... ahhh forget it, we have enough black boxers.
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Personally I'd also like to see some of the TFTP members especially Botan, Mukai, and the guy on the far right *Can never remeber his name*. And personally, I'd rather see less characters from previous games get in and KoF keep adding more KoF only characters. It would be cool to see characters like Silbur, Jyazu, and a few moew FF/AoF characters but primairly I wanna see more new faces.
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Well Shroom and Rimelo could work, Shroom would be cool to see, specially on the design of the bottom. Rimelo could work as a substitute of Miu Kurosaki.
(http://game.snkplaymore.co.jp/official/kof-xiii/blog/100826_harukeshi.jpg)
Yeah, all of those characters look like shit and don't belong in KOF, save for Mukai, who at least looks like a badass.
SNK needs to bring back more of the classic characters, or at least design a character around a good martial art, and not make it a cutesy female character. Some Buriki One characters would fit right in... bring back Gai Tendo, and get Rob Python in there.
Although what I would really like to see from SNK is a black woman. Also I love that one palette for Vanessa in 2k2. Ya know what? Vanessa should of been... ahhh forget it, we have enough black boxers.
indeed, they all suck mens asses and dick strawberries (No need to use such vulgar descriptions -Kane317). cept mukai, who sucks pussy, cause he man like that. i think you might like this list of characters:
Ryuji Yamazaki
Oswald
Geese
Krauser
Blue Mary
Anhel
Vanessa
Gai
Silber.
very nice kane, thanx for showing. next time ill hide the vulgar shit, peace kane
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Honest, we need more grapplers.
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Yeah, seriously, need more grapplers. Blue Mary would fit the bill perfectly if they made her play like her RB incarnations that possessed command grabs+super command grab. Yamazaki as well, and even Geese and Krauser.
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mary, anhel and vanessa would make a good female agents team imo.
geese, silber and krauser a nice boss kinda team. '
yamazaki and oswald i can see in a team, but gai would be out of place with them...
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i d like to see B mary ,the indian boxer from RB (forgot his name) and BOB from FF
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the indian boxer from RB (forgot his name)
Rick Strowd? Vanessa is basically him, I mean, most of Vanessa movesets are the same as Rick's ones. But it would be cool to see him in another game besides FF, that is for sure.
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the indian boxer from RB (forgot his name)
Rick Strowd? Vanessa is basically him, I mean, most of Vanessa movesets are the same as Rick's ones. But it would be cool to see him in another game besides FF, that is for sure.
yeah him.-.i know vaness is pretty much him but well he s still worth a try
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Heavy D
Geese
Oswald
Shingo
Gai
Vanessa
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Orochi Team could do grappling.
EDDR, Heavy D! would be amazing. He's such a fun character.
I don't get why Shingo got scrapped. Like, at all. He's obvious comic relief, which every game needs.
I think Aoi might be pretty cool to see again. She was interesting.
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Orochi Team could do grappling.
EDDR, Heavy D! would be amazing. He's such a fun character.
I don't get why Shingo got scrapped. Like, at all. He's obvious comic relief, which every game needs.
Heavy D is indeed very nice and someone i use quite often in 98. He's got an awesome set of tools to work with!
The characters in XIII already lack special intros or any extra animation, so i think that's the main reason why a characters like Shingo got scrapped. To really flesh him out they need to add a truckload of animations to the existing ones. So that's why i hope that when if XIV comes out they will polish the game some more by adding special intros and and funny animations overall to finish the typical KOF feel.
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I think Shingo is missing since this is the conclusion of Ash's story. At the end of XI, Iori almost kills Shingo. I'm hoping to see him back in the next game.
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Could have sworn I read somewhere that Saiysu took him under his wing for training after XI.
Shingo will will probably return and be re-imagined, wouldn't be surprised if they took away Kyo's rekkas to give him this style of play (Kyo also lost the R.E.D. Kick, which is sort of like Shingo Kick). He did start giving off fire at random during his QCF+P afterall.
I'd prefer an older, non student version (both Kyo and Iori are more mature looking now).
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Actually, Saisyu started training him after 2001.
But yeah, I'd love to see Shingo back, and less of a Kyo-copy. Cool new outfit, cool new moves. Just keep him flame-less.
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Note that Shingo is in the background of the Sumo stage of XIII, nursing his still-broken arm. So, he's not forgotten in the least...
Personally, if he were to come back now, I'd like to see him take his version of Kyo's Aragami/Dokugami combos further. I think he's a good reference to "Rekka" Kyo, since that form doesn't exist in XIII.
Shingo's so effective in and of himself; I don't even personally like playing (pre XII and XIII) Kyo, but I love playing Shingo!
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I'd love to see Ryuji Yamazaki and Billy.
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hey man, yamazaki is wanted from the east to the west. if theres 1 character that needs to be added, its yamazaki.
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There are at least 5 teams which I would love to see, realistically, I don't know if they could only trigger like 1 or 3, but well I will post them anyway
Outlaw Team. Billy/Yamazaki/Blue Mary Those 3 are really cool characters with gameplay aspects that are not present on XIII at all, It will cool to see them on their original outfits since we're going with the reboot thing (well, billy with his FFS outfit, the first one sucked)
Anti Kyokugenryu Team. This must be my favorite concept for a team in a KOF, gave more importance to the AOF characters, and did a good job with the ''comic relief team'' but that could be used as serious players. I will make a twist and made it with Eiji, Todoh (Kasumi is one of my favorite characters, but if friggin hwa jai was revived, I believe that the original jobber from SNK should had make it) and lee pai long. KOF needs more AOF
Assasins team. Here you can put Gato, Oswald and honestly, I don't know who one else, maybe could be used as a good excuse to use nameless, since I like his design and his gameplay will fit well with XIII to just make it dissapear
USA SPORTS TEAM. c'mon, if this was a reboot, they should had appeared, with 98UM their gameplay has been very well polished, and I really want to see more of team
Buriki One Team. though one, I could only think in Gai, Silber, and I don't know, Rob Python?
Female Team. The game needs more womens, with the ending of the ladies team on XIII, I realized that I really wanted to see Hotaru made her official debut on KOF, put there Kasumi and Li Xiangfei and it will be a really cool team for me
At least those are my choices if I could choose, maybe throw vanessa, ramon and seth since they are always a welcome edition, but I don't know, must be hard to select characters in a franchise with so many potential cool characters to choose
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sports team was pretty retarded if you ask me. its one of the few teams where i was relieved they were gone out of kof.
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maybe, but like I said, gameplay wise I liked them, in 98um Brian was very cool to use, and it seems than in 98umfe lucky was improved, but I could see why some believe that they are retarded
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Heavy D! was cool. Lucky was pretty memorable to, and it's nice to see a tall, long-legged man in KoF. Never cared too much for Brian myself, but I could see many finding his gameplay fun, or different.
It was great to play a Black Boxer who wasn't overly violent, a massive womanizer (Like Rob Python would be), loud for the sake of being loud, too stupid, or just there for comic relief.
And Lucky was a nice ref to Hakim from Game of Death, mixed with the actual sport Kareem Abdul Jabar played. Not like any other company tried to base black men off anything but Mike Tyson or Dennis Rodman (in the case of DoA) :(
I could see them being re-freshed in XIII's style really well. D! would probably become one of my mains...
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heavy d was actually fun to use, but his design sucked ass. the other 2 straight up sucked imo.
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So what would you change with D? Take off his jacket and let the eagle tat show? Perfectly fine with the shades myself.
Lucky... His 94 design was ugly with that huge jacket. 98 style with the B-Ball uniform wasn't too bad, though. Maybe if they gave him something that was more of a mix of a Karate Gi & Ball Uniform?
If Brian had to come back, I'd mostly just make him J Maximum from World Heroes 2, or at least that'd be one of his colors! The Helmet, plus modified football armor.
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I will hate someone using a helmet to fight
Brian is fine, maybe make his outfit more professional, and not one that looked like something that you will costume using the garbage from your trash can
Maybe using the colors from some NFL teams will be cool, give him and standard number, his name on the back, and you will had a very decent design
Lucky was fine with his 98 outfit, maybe something more modern?
Heavy D is fine, maybe change the hair cut
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Why the heck are we the last to know this? LoL.
According to Siliconera, Billy Kane is confirmed by Famitsu to being added to KoF XIII console release!
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/06/28/the-king-of-fighters-xiii-on-ps3-and-xbox-360-adds-billy-kane/
Looking to find more sources...
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Billy usually comes with a partner.. can't think of his name.
Musolini, help me out here buddy.
[spoiler]sorry bro, can't resist lol[/spoiler]
So that news about the KOF team disbanding was BS afterall, surprise.
I'm expecting a few more characters.
I also wouldn't be surprised if SNK adopted the BlazBlue/SF4 model of releasing a game and milking it via character and balance updates, instead of doing a full on sequel. End of the year will make XIII 1.5 years old afterall.
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Billy usually comes with a partner.. can't think of his name.
Musolini, help me out here buddy.
[spoiler]sorry bro, can't resist lol[/spoiler]
So that news about the KOF team disbanding was BS afterall, surprise.
You mean... Mary, right? XD -ahem-
Anywho, Andriasang also has the info listed as coming from this week's famitsu:
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/29/this_weeks_famitsu/
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I would go crazy if they add Duck King or any other fatal fury characters better yet other characters license by SNKP
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guys dont do this to me, im already reading a really emotional manga atm. i think this might break me down....
back to reality.
if yamazaki is in it, i, i, i..., man shit would be just too fucking good. now if yamazaki isnt in it but billy is....., ill go fucking crazy. i would like not strap a bomb to my waste, but i still wouldnt like it. only 70 something virgins along with a couple whores could cheer me up then. and id still miss yamazaki even then.
edit: which kaner outfit are you guys hoping for btw? im hoping for his kof 95 one or his 97/rb one. none of that retarded maximum impact artist shit whos name i catn come up with now.
edit again: if yamazaki is in it, kof outfit or cvs/kof03 outfit? both would be too fucking dope to be honest.
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Billy and Yamazaki will have 1 special each. Billy will have a counter move where on failure his pole is knocked out of his hands and he takes the fetal position where he invincible, until Ripper appears to toss him a fresh one.
Then Yamazaki, all he has is a special K.O animation where he falls flat on his face with his ass hanging up in the air.
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lol yamazakis loss pose in the bg's was fucking hillarious, ass up thumbs up, well only if you won ofcourse.
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I hope Billy is an exact copy of his 02 version.
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I hope Billy is an exact copy of his 02 version.
With the inclusion of Billy Kane, does that mean '98 Iori is a sure thing as well? =)
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I'll check out Famitsu today. Billy Kane would be amazing!
(And I'll always dream of a comeback team composed of Todo, Heavy D! and Duck King.)
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Very excited about this news! Let's hope Yamazaki and possibly Mary accompany him at some point.
I think milking XIII with DLC rather than starting a fresh installment would be beneficial, both to SNKP as well as fans. It makes it easier for SNKP to keep the game fresh, with a trickle of income, at a fraction of the cost of a hard copy release, and it's good for us because we pay less for DLC than a new hard copy installment that makes the previous installment obsolete.
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hey as long as all the characters are free, i couldnt give a rats ass about dlc. shit would stink real bad if the dlc was characters.
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Billy, Yamazaki and Oswald team! I call it! lol
Hopefully Momoko, Mary and Vanessa also get into the game.
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Since it's an indication of the data off of the XII disc, I'd happily welcome 98 Iori, and especially Billy. Part of me hopes they'll give him the '95 outfit, but the '98 was good too, so either way. Adding Oswald, Adelheid, and/or Botan to that would make me even happier.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJR8ZNAnRoM
Sorry. I just had to.
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come on snk if you love me you''ll add blue mary to this game
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I'm sure Billy is not alone and Mary is a staple female fighter in KOF since 97. I hope extra characters have been well balanced with the rest of the cast... I wouldn't like to see overpowered or super complete movelists for extra characters..
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Extra characters, eh? Billy sure is nice, although he is not part of my dream team.
Tizoc would be so nice. Is just love using him in 2003.
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1) Adelheid
2) Angel
I love Adelheid.....He's such an awesome character and Rose is around so bring him back please!
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yamazaki as team leader, billy as geeses henchmen, then the final spot for either mary, gato or oswald. any one of these would do.
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You guys are expecting too much.
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You guys are expecting too much.
That's what she said.
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You guys are expecting too much.
Yeah, but it's all SNK's fault. They completely outdid themselves with XIII. Before XIII, I never (NEVER) would have imagined I'd see the return of clothes-ripping KOs, or alternate outfits for some characters. Henceforth, I will never underestimate SNK again.
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I'm really crossing my fingers in hope of Blue Mary making it into this game. I must know what her playstyle would be like with this game's systems.
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I want to see Billy with his 02 outfit for his 2nd pallet.
Team outlaw would be Billy, Yamazaki and Geese!
and for my second team choice I would love to see Vanessa, Mary and B. Jeneeeeet!!!!! this would be awesome!!!
Sorry I'm just too hyped!!!!!!
Aaaaahhhhhhh!
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nah vanessa, mary and anhel, jenet is boring sad fuck.
and how can anybody expecting too much? kof 12 was ass, kof 13 came out 2 years ago. this means they had 2 whole years to work on the console version, they gotta go all out. its the only logical option.
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kof 13 came out 2 years ago.
Check your math. It was released July 14th, 2010. ;)
EDIT: Unless you're from the future?!?
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kof 13 came out 2 years ago.
Check your math. It was released July 14th, 2010. ;)
EDIT: Unless you're from the future?!?
And if he is from the future, why didn't he bring copies of the game back to us?
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im actually from the past but i moved to the future, now im back. they was cool back in the past, but they where real assholes in the future. they made me come back all naked and buff, as soon as i landed i lost all my buff but didnt get no cloathes. they took all my extra kof xiii & iv copies when i had to strip for a future version of demi moore. better luck next time.
either way 1 year is also enough for at least 3 to 6 characters, dont you agree? defenitelly enough for yamazaki.
also any additional info you understood from that link that we didnt? (if you speak jpn).
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also any additional info you understood from that link that we didnt? (if you speak jpn).
Nothing that wasn't already mentioned, or obvious. Over thirty characters, over six game modes. Unless there's some subtle nuance I'm missing, there's nothing important to the article. I'd still like to see the full page though.
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I want to see Billy with his 02 outfit for his 2nd pallet.
Team outlaw would be Billy, Yamazaki and Geese!
and for my second team choice I would love to see Vanessa, Mary and B. Jeneeeeet!!!!! this would be awesome!!!
Sorry I'm just too hyped!!!!!!
Aaaaahhhhhhh!
Can't blame you, seen all this info is getting the hype up!
Man, I really hope Atlus brings a demo of those new characters to EVO, that should be awesome!
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Out of all of the characters, the one I had the most fun playing as, and trying to learn was Gai Tendo. I'd love to see him come back to KOF in High Res. I'd be down for a Buriki One team, but since I haven't played the game, I don't know who else from the game would be a good fit along with him and the rest of the roster.
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Hmm it's hard to say who i'd like to see the most but I would definitly like to see Rock or one of the other characters from Garou because it would be nice to see them brought back.
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I had heard that rock will never make it since the kof team really respect the FF one, and want to see rock when garou 2 will be released
so yeah, I'm still wondering what will be first, garou 2, or the KOF team realizing that there will never be a garou 2, I hope that happens the first.
I want to see the whole anti kyokugen team, I love kasumi and eiji, and just put malin for the lolz, even though will be cooler if they use an old AOF that hates the kyokugen too.
But I want to play with eiji, I always use him in 95, 98um and XI
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I had heard that rock will never make it since the kof team really respect the FF one, and want to see rock when garou 2 will be released
Where you heard that?
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has been always discussed in KOF pages
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Momoko and Malin
Momoko could be the next "Angel" in terms of gameplay
Malin, i love her gamestyle!
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2k2 Athena. She is sorely missed.
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i know the chances of this happening are close to zero
but i think a maximum impact team would be pretty cool
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Yeah a MI team would be cool, I actually liked alot of the MI originals and most of the Falcoon alts. Yeah they were crazy but character alt costumes should IMO.
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Yeah a MI team would be cool, I actually liked alot of the MI originals and most of the Falcoon alts. Yeah they were crazy but character alt costumes should IMO.
agreed
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mi sucked ass, same for falcoons designs and all the games designs and characters.
WE DO NOT WANT MI CHARACTERS IN KOF 2D, FUCK NO.
EDIT: THANK YOU.
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The original MI characters are awful, but to give some credit to Falcoon some of the alt costumes for the classic characters are pretty cool.
But i rather have a new MI game instead of seeing MI characters in the main KOF.
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The original MI characters are awful, but to give some credit to Falcoon some of the alt costumes for the classic characters are pretty cool.
But i rather have a new MI game instead of seeing MI characters in the main KOF.
screw you alba is awesome
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It will be cool to see a team composed of MI characters
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I dunno what people see in Alba. He's emo, and a retarded design.
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I dunno what people see in Alba. He's emo, and a retarded design.
but he has white and red hair
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I dunno what people see in Alba. He's emo, and a retarded design.
Cus he's not emo and has a design people like? One of my favorite things about KoF design wise is how varied everyone is while still looking like they fit, the MI characters fit that perfectly. That and I wanna see Xiao Lon and Duke again, those both had great designs.
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I dunno what people see in Alba. He's emo, and a retarded design.
but he has white and red hair
And according to Falcoon, Alba is the cooler version of him XD
Now that i saw the MI chars again a few minutes ago, they aren't THAT bad, but i think most people rather have other characters like the ones from the main KOF.
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Alba is Fatcoon's Gary Stu.
Xiao Lon is an alright design, although her alts are hideous and some of her moves are dumb. Chae Lim is good, especially her alt, but the Meira Brothers, Nagase, Duke, Lien, Luise, and Jivatma are all horrible. The Meira Bros. are just extremely lame and a terrible contrast to heroes like the Bogard Bros or Ryo and Robert. Nagase is the WORST design I have ever seen in a SNK game and makes absolutely no sense to me and why she uses Hanzo Hattori's moves is beyond me. Just another horrible Falcoon MarySue design, some say she is a Rule 63 Falcoon. I mean... god damn, she looks like a freaking YUGIOH character. Thats how bad she is.
Duke is an average boss design, but the problem is his moves are a mess, and aren't memorable at all compared to classic SNK bosses like Geese and Rugal, not to mention his theme is crap. Lien is just boobs+blonde hair in a too cleavage friendly spy suit, with some of the worst moves I've seen in a KOF game.
Luise is retarded dumb crap, doesn't belong in KOF, and Jivatma... not even gonna go there. Especially his alts. Hell, alot of the alts for these characters are horrible.
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I like the fact that Iori has been confirmed as the download character, and they already showed Saiki, but on the trailer after showing Billy and Saiki it says "more characters coming soon".
With Classic Iori and Billy, all I want is Eiji to come back. Man, I would love to have him in this KOF.
Yamazaki & Geese are two other characters I would really love to see again, but apparently there are no plans of bringing Geese back for the time being.
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I dunno what people see in Alba. He's emo, and a retarded design.
but he has white and red hair
And according to Falcoon, Alba is the cooler version of him XD
I thought that was supposed to be Nagase. ;)
Xiao Lon is an alright design, although her alts are hideous and some of her moves are dumb. Chae Lim is good, especially her alt, but the Meira Brothers, Nagase, Duke, Lien, Luise, and Jivatma are all horrible. The Meira Bros. are just extremely lame and a terrible contrast to heroes like the Bogard Bros or Ryo and Robert. Nagase is the WORST design I have ever seen in a SNK game and makes absolutely no sense to me and why she uses Hanzo Hattori's moves is beyond me. Just another horrible Falcoon MarySue design, some say she is a Rule 63 Falcoon. I mean... god damn, she looks like a freaking YUGIOH character. Thats how bad she is.
Duke is an average boss design, but the problem is his moves are a mess, and aren't memorable at all compared to classic SNK bosses like Geese and Rugal, not to mention his theme is crap. Lien is just boobs+blonde hair in a too cleavage friendly spy suit, with some of the worst moves I've seen in a KOF game.
Luise is retarded dumb crap, doesn't belong in KOF, and Jivatma... not even gonna go there. Especially his alts. Hell, alot of the alts for these characters are horrible.
It would have been really great if Jivatma had a female VA for his alternate. It would have added such a really interesting mystery to his character. I never had the chance to play as Xiao Lon, but I really liked the look she had in her alt.
If I had to choose any SNK character that hadn't appeared in a KOF to show up, I'd go with Rosa from Kizuna Encounter, or Sinclair from AOF 3. If you put them together with Lenny Creston, then you could have a Women's with Weapons team.
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I'm curious to see how MI characters will trasnlate into a 2d form
Yeah, I know that there are some sprites in mugen, but still, want to see them being made by SNK
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Chae Lim is the only one I would want, so long they make her play more different from Kim, like in MI2.
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ì hoe that weve seen the last of the mi cast. besides yamazaki and geese (if they are together in a team with billy than thats officially team bad ass) than billy will have the coolest team this year. instead of mi love id like to see more b1 love, silber and gai would be awesome editions to xiii, these characters would diversify the cast greatly.
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ROB PYTHON!
If KOF13 is in dire need of a boxer, why not him?
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/1523752-rob_p_large.gif)
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Rob Python isn't a bad design, though if it came to any boxer to choose for XIII, with Vanessa in the bg, I'd take Heavy D or Franco Bash.
With MI characters, I wouldn't mind seeing them on a 2D plane at all, especially Alba, Soiree, and Nagase. It's not so much their designs but their fighting styles that interest me. If animated well and with some combo ability similar to some of their options in MI2, that'd be awesome to me.
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Heavy D is lame and Franco Bash isn't even a pure boxer, he's kick boxing.
And what's so good about Nagase's fighting style? She's Hanzo Hattori. Better off having a real descendent to Hanzo than some Falcoon Mary Sue. And if we needed capoeria... there's Richard Meyer and Bob Wilson, screw Soiree.
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3- Rock Howard!!! awesomenizz.
2- Chizuru
1- Alba
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And if we needed capoeria... there's Richard Meyer and Bob Wilson, screw Soiree.
Momoko FTW! lol
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I'm going to close this thread for now as it seems like the main thread is currently discussing the possible "green slimes" making it on topic for now. If needed be, I'll reopen this thread later.