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I can see that, I'm just wondering why it's better for some people than it is for others. Usually, that's a sign the connection is decent at the very least, 'cos when the netcode is bad, everyone states it's bad, right?

I suppose you're right though. Not enough to make a judgement yet.

...I played SamSho a lot last night and it is great, online and offline...

It seems like typical SNK online so far, which is not good

I'm confused *scratches head*

@sibarazz: I always thought of it the other way - he has enough potential to become a good character.

I'd laugh, isntead of bringing Whip back, the put Lenny in instead xD

@solidshark: Good point. I'm sorta expecting Adelheid to be there, since his sister 'randomly' hosted another tournament. A lot of people seem to want Oswald back in, although I'm not sure what team he'd be in (he could be a single entry, I suppose...).

I really want a TFtP boss team of Saiki, Mukai, and sexy Botan to appear. Or atleast a non-Ash boss =_=' You can tell from the initial trailer that more TFtP characters were planned to be in, but didn't make it to the final game. Of course, as you said, they shouldn't delay the game too much...

@SAB-CA: Shingo Kick. All day, every day.

And you're probably right about the skillful clones thing. But yeah, the clones in KOF usually aren't as 'clone-y' as they are in other games. What such characters are there that they could use though? There's Shingo...Normal Saiki could be a simple headswap if they decide to do that...erm...I can't think of any others :/

And was Jubei Yamada the old due who threw crackers at you? If so, yes please. He was awesome.

@JohnCrawley: I really do hope SNKp does this eventually. In the recent games (barring XII), they seemed to have brought in atleast one surprise character (in XI, it was a whole bunch of them, i.e. Gai, Silber, a Garou team, etc) and John Crawley seems like a simple enough design to build up on.

@THE ANSWER: Kevin would be cool too. You can never go wrong with Garou characters...

I'm trying to get back into Guild Wars. Pretty cool stuff.

I saw someone post the following on...somewhere, a while back (can't remember who...or where I saw it ._.)

Tekken x Virtua Fighter = Better idea
Tekken x Street Fighter = Better market (i.e. more $$$$$$$$$)

^Sad, but true.

That Ryu looks good for a prototype, allready an improvement over those steroid-induced gorilla models in ssf4.

Regarding a possible a future SNK vs X title...although this might send the discussion completely off-topic, is it just me, or are the only people who want to see a Capcom vs SNK 3, the Capcom-only fans? Apart from Darkstalkers and JJBA, I don't dabble too much in Capcom fighters, but I didn't really enjoy any of the SNK/Capcom crossovers, tbh. And everyone I know who prefers SNK to Capcom share the same view. Opinions?

Perhaps if they did what their doing with this game. Have an SF x KOF, with Street Fighter graphics, controls, and mechanics, and also have a KOF x SF, which has KOF graphics, controls, and mechanics (although they'd have to differntiate the titles a bit more to avoid confusion)

Hey, I'm a Billy Kane fan.

I stand corrected then xD

edit: Don't get me wrong, I'm a Kane fan too. He was my fave. character to use in the Fatal Fury games. It's just that I've heard people say "I'm a B. Mary fan" or "I'm a Yamazaki fan", but never Billy Kane. I thought it was kinda wierd...nice to see another Billy Kane fan though lol...

@sibarraz: I kinda liked Malin in the Anti-Kyokugen team :/ the only other people they could add are...Ryuhaku Todoh, though they'd have to flesh him out (only has one special in AOF lol) or Lee Pai Long - who's a bit of a stretch 'cos he doesn't even have any sort of hate against Kyokugen, but him and Takuma seem to be rivals, I think.

@sociald & JTSNOW6 : At the very least, XIII Kyo, from what I've seen and heard, plays like Kusanagi in KOF 2k2, so unless any big Kyo changes happen, I don't think Kusanagi will be back. Although, as you implied, SNKp might be tempted to make a clone Kyo team again, since they could just palette swap Kyo, and then change up his moves from there.

I hope Shingo comes back though. I actually preferred him to Kyo, gameplay-wise...

This is more of a general question, but could someone outline to me why Andy's so good in XIII? He was (and still is, I think) one of the more common characters used, from what I can gather from youtube. Someone told me he's a good first character for the team, because he's good a building meter. Is that the only reason?

If we do get a new team, I'd think the B. Mary-Billy-Yamazaki team has a very high chance of getting in there. They're all supposedly popular characters (although admiteddly, I've never heard anyone say "hey, I'm a Billy Kane fan" lol. He's a cool dude, but still...) and SNK seemed to like them enough to put them in several games.

Also, since it's supposed to be the Fatal Fury series' 20th Anniversary...next year, I think...we can only expect more Fatal Fury characters lol. I'm convinced that a Tung Fu Rue- Jin Chonshu- Kid Vegeta Jin Chonrei team would be cool, now that they've brought Hwa Jai back from the grave.

As far as AOF characters go...the only ones I feel have any chance of returning are Lee Pai Long (if they're going for a Sennin/Old Masters team without wanting to move Takuma or Chin from where they are now, he'd fit in kinda nicely. He also was in NGBC...) and maybe John Crawley (Heidern - Whip - John as an alternate army-themed team to Ikari Warriors team?), although perhaps that's stretching it a bit. Also, wasn't AOF the game with the whip girl...called Lenny? ._.

@Sibarraz: SNK almost has enough boxers to make their own dedicated boxing game/based fighting game lol. Vanessa, Rick Stroud, SHEN WOO, Heavy D!, Mickey, Michael Max, Axel Hawk, Rob Python (Buriki One)...that's all I can think of...

Hi, I've been lurking the forums for a while now, but I decided to make this account...out of boredom.

I mainly play KOF2k2 and SS5sp. I'm not too great at either, but I'm trying to improve. I've picked up a few things allready just by lurking Anyways, I hope to get along with all of you.

*Hello. I've been lurking on the forums for a while now. Decided to make an account out of boredom*

Anyways, a good netcode goes without saying really. It'll definitely be the 'make or break' factor for this game. A good training mode would be great. Put in Survival Mode, 1 VS 1, and some other stock-standard fighting game modes, of course. An Edit Mode for character colours would be nice, but it's not really needed due to the insane amount of palettes available for each character.

SNK should really aim to continue supporting the game for a while (atleast 6-8 months really) regarding balance + possible DLC content. Although, I really don't think much has to be changed barring the top 4 (mainly K' and Raiden's dropkick, Kula and Liz would only need minor tweaks imo). My suggestions for them are roughly the same as everyone elses, so I won't bother posting them.

As for new characters...I would like to see a tftp team. You can tell that SNKp initially wanted to have one, due to their unveiling in the early trailers. If we were to get such a boss team, I'd predict that it'd be Mukai-Botan-Saiki (before absorbing Mukai). Also, yeah, they probably wouldn't appear in the storyline after 13, but they could still appear in dream match games (every 4th game in the series seems to be a dream match title. since KOF14 is the 4th game since 2002, I assume it'll be a dream match title) Other teams & characters I would like to appear in the home port:

Billy-Yamazaki-B.Mary
Vanessa-Ramon-Seth
Chang-Jhun-Choi
Adelheid [single entry]
Shingo [single entry?]
Shion [secret boss]
Brocken [secret boss lol]

Probably not all of the above, but some of them would be nice. As much as I would love to see the Krauser-Geese-Mr. Big team return, that ain't gonna happen lol