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Made this vid back in August 2016. Mai is being played as the anchor in this vid.

https://youtu.be/LW_0Mq6sBdE

I made this vid back in August 2016. As you can see, Andy is more then just a zoner! He is being played as a secondary.

https://youtu.be/Jamdg2zcuPo

You both make really good points. My take? His counter is not the best, but it's not useless. That being said, maximizing the usefulness of the tools we are provided is why we lab it up in fighting games, right? There are gonna be choice places to throw out that counter (jump-ins, frame traps, blockstrings, resets) and we can condition our opponents a particular way to fight them.

For example, I do his cross under reset all the time. I'll do cl.C, f+A, heavy knee, teleport. After that string, people are blocking or poking to avoid the command grab. Throwing out a counter would be a nice read or going for the hop reset/cross up.

That's pretty much the jest of it. Though they need to change the properties of the counter to also counter low attacks or at least the EX version. Seems to be a real risk and no reward when using it.

Been labbing it up and I think I found a really good setup for command grab using MC. Using cl. A which is +1 on block. Then canceling cr. A into command grab gives you an OS of sorts. The cr. A whiffs and the command grab will connect. If they press a button they will get hit by the cr. A and still get grab. Might be a good way to close out a match if the opponent is low on life.

I like the thinking behind some of those counter setups a lot. I just wish his dang counter were better, would make those really threatening.

His counter is best used against opponents who know their frame data and like to attack when they feel it's their turn. I wouldn't recommend using his counter unless in situations when you know your opponent will attack. There's other setups that involve using his EX Shining Ninja Arts on block or his light version  of Kawarimi on block or even a blocked overhead.

Thought I'd share some Bandeiras combos and tech that I discovered awhile back. Most of these setups require Bandeiras in the leader position. Hope this helps. Enjoy!

https://youtu.be/zOtfhcHJ-9k

https://youtu.be/LAJi_X3CwIo