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General Discussion / Re: The King of Fighters XIII General Discussion Thread

« on: March 05, 2011, 05:13:02 PM »

So, KOF XIII is not played because is in 2D. This is why people prefer 2002UM or BBCS..

KOF XIII is not played because it's not as competitive (and diverse as characters played) as KOF 2002 um and most players are tired of K' and Raiden.BBCS is another story and has nothing to do with KOF but with GG fans.Speaking of diversity once again KOF XIII has a limited of good characters that can be played competitive.In recent news the professor at mmcafee made a tour to finish some kind of arcade map and it seems that and i quote "Taking a rough tally, only about one in five arcades (that have fighting games) in the the main areas of Tokyo remain to have KOFXIII since it's been replaced with the Nesica system for the most part."
Console release would be a miracle right now for sure.

As i said just play the games that suit you and everybody do their things.

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General Discussion / Re: The King of Fighters XIII General Discussion Thread

« on: March 05, 2011, 04:11:56 PM »

Today XIII is an ok game but nothing special.

Couldn't disagree more in that point. KOF XIII is a fabulouse starter point for next gen KOF. In what was so revolucionary SF4? Because it's 2.5D? Oh, incredible. Never see it before! The biggest revolution in the world... I think you forgot that SF4 is back step compared to Third Strike. And BB? What has BB revolucioned? Nothing. SF4 is just a reborn of the series for this next gen and people get hyped just and exclusivly for this fact. And BB is just a decent "next gen" game, that offers what others games offered in the past with a good online.

You are talking from your personal point of view.Dates and sales say a different thing.Business is about sales. I didn t say 2.5 d is a new thing but it seems it is prefered by the gamers today so it's a standard - especially for the western market (just look at how the new MK is looking).Leave the fanboy-ism asside and look at the game market today.Without sales a gaming company is nothing - no mather what 2d sprite wonders they do.I think playmore should do what makes money for them now like sega did - they dropped the hardware business and for some years they are making very good profits - so playmore should develop pachino machines, mobile games and other stuff that can produce money and they have resources for.As a gaming company they are long time unprofitable.Playmore is not here for your enjoyment it's here to make money.Almost all the old SNK staff either quit to be teachers or now work for capcom or Dimps.SNK is dead and let's just leave it that way - stop this nostalgia nonsense and just play the games and don't ask for more - especially not from playmore at least.

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General Discussion / Re: The King of Fighters XIII General Discussion Thread

« on: March 05, 2011, 02:54:41 PM »

Playmore must realize that if they want to make real money with KOF they just have to simply look around.The early KOF's (and most snk games ) were in my opinion great and revolutionary games from gameplay to graphics and conformed very well with standars from that period.Today's standards are different and you either follow the standards or make something better.KOF XIII is an ok game and i appreciate the hand drawing sprites but that is just personal opinion.If they did this game instead of XII that would have been MONEY - even with bad netcode the game would have catched on and they could have patched the online eventually.Today XIII is an ok game but nothing special just for us who haven't played it and are fans of the game.Speaking of SF4 - this game was 99% developed by Dimps (formed by former SNK and Capcom employes) supervised by Capcom.Playmore doesn't have money or infrastructure to develop a 2.5 D fighting game (which is a most now if you want to make money international and appeal to both casual and fans) and i think they should consider outsourcing this to another company.KOF XIII as much as it's hard to say it is a failure for playmore and they discuss back and forth if it's worth to release this to console (i think the port is already finished just needs approval) after almost a year since it's release.99% from rumors and people i talked with don't think we will see this on console ...but there is still a tiny hope.Also the feedback of the players who already played the game and are not overhyped by it just said it's a fun game and that's it - they prefer KOF 2002 um or 98 over XIII and i am sure playmore noticed this - that's why they release the final editions hopping to cash in but with little to no difference between them people play the regular versions - another failure once again. So personal preferences don't count and the reality speaks for itself.My only problem right now is why isn't playmore reaching for the fan sites trying to get feedback and colaborations to develop some kind of strategy for the future releases.That facebook page for XBL is a big and annoying joke like a robot posting and answers no questions about nothing.I don t expect them to answer al lthe questions but man time to time they could release a statement and try to cover at least 15% of them.PR and marketing make money - gimmiks lead to bankrupcy.Just my two cents...

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General Discussion / Re: The King of Fighters XIII General Discussion Thread

« on: March 04, 2011, 01:54:23 PM »

I can understand that it's not easy to develop and release a fighting game with all this competition especially from capcom (not that competition is bad) but... stop asking to support playmore by buying those old titles.Playmore ruined all it's credibility with XII - if they want support they must deliver a good product and have at least a minimal contact with the community.I really liked how the MK team presented the game in that series called MKcast or something like this (search it on youtube), how they keep contact with the community and how they realized that if you want to sell your game there is no other place to promote it like the competitive fighting scene - free advertisement and unconditional support from the fans - not to mention that soon they will release a demo for PSN with 4 playable characters.That is good PR and marketing.I don't understand how we are suppose to follow blindly a company that put out games like KOF XII and Samurai Shodown Sen.I tried to give KOF XII numerous chances and find a potential at least offline but it's useless.And as a final note i am not complaining and ranting because i have nothing better to do ... i just care too much about this series and it's sad that incompetent people are in charge of the hard work of designers and programmers...

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General Discussion / Re: The King of Fighters XIII General Discussion Thread

« on: February 28, 2011, 09:20:48 PM »

Arcadia magazine for april just appeared and from what i can tell there is still no news regarding KOF XIII or anything snk related .. neither famitsu magazine ... pfff
Also some new fighting game like melty blood type is announced to be release i guess soon in arcades Under Night In-Birth - . So the 20 th anniversary of neo geo is just shitty old games that nobody wants to play anymore... sad and stupid

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General Discussion / Re: The King of Fighters XIII General Discussion Thread

« on: February 28, 2011, 08:16:52 AM »

Come on man this is ridiculous trolling.I also think that playmore might close the game section but they will keep re releasing games because it's cheap and because they still have some money to squeeze from the old snk.They can even hire some developers to release a game time to time ... I ain't defending those idiots at playmore but this kind of rumours are just lame.In april-may i am 99% sure we will have 13 just have to be patient.Stay free  

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General Discussion / Re: The King of Fighters XIII General Discussion Thread

« on: February 21, 2011, 01:49:03 PM »

..promote it correctly and watch the money flowing in.

Looking how playmore is treating their games/fans lately i strongly believe they have no idea what money is even if it hit them in the face.

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General Fighting Game Discussion / Re: Who getting MVC 3?

« on: February 19, 2011, 09:12:38 AM »

Aside from damage the game is fun like i said and has fairly balanced rooster and as far as i've seen good online - that's why i am going to buy the game and enjoy it.I wouldn't compare this to kof XIII.To make kof look broken you must have skill not just mashing combos into supers.I haven't played XIII yet but i played them all and there are some broken shits in every game but it's unlikely to get away with high damage and not have almost perfect execution.MVC 3 is a fun game ..but poor presentation in comparison with all that hype...
Only thing i really love about mvc 3 is the rage quitter system they implemented   .I want that in all my fighting games from now on.

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General Fighting Game Discussion / Re: Who getting MVC 3?

« on: February 19, 2011, 12:47:56 AM »

honestly, the overall damage output of the game may limit a lot of high level competition potential, but that remains to be seen. give the game some time. it only came out today.

So i guess tomorrow the damage scaling will be right?..unless capcom releases a patch for this game this is just a broken fest when it comes to competitional play - watch the tournament posted by level up and you will see numerous wtf! moments and ridiculous comebacks(and people just started to figure the game out...just imagine in a few weeks how ridiculous the combos will look like).I will still buy the game just for the fun of it - if a game is broken it doesn't mean it can't be fun...but i will not pay 60$ for a mediocre over hyped title

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General Discussion / Re: The King of Fighters XIII General Discussion Thread

« on: February 17, 2011, 09:49:10 PM »

...you have with Iori knocking the shit out of Soiree

That Soiree looks a lot like the director from playmore japan..or who ever is responsable with the release of XIII...or all of them put together

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General Fighting Game Discussion / Re: Why does it seem like BlazBlue gets a lot of hate?

« on: February 17, 2011, 09:39:00 PM »

For the record, I love almost every fighter that had ever existed...

30 seconds with shaq-fu and your brain will explode

BB is a great and deep game if you take it seriously. Each player has different style and strategies and it's time consuming just to learn a character, how they hit(in air and on ground depending the direction you are holding), discovering combos...etc - just try Arakune and tell me how is button mashing's gonna help.This game is not as mashing friendly like mvc and will get you nowhere.The downside for most is the anime artwork(but i still think it's the hardness of the game that keep players away).. for me i just don't care - if a game is good, challenging and i have fun with it, it can have cubism style design for what i care.

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General Discussion / Re: The King of Fighters XIII General Discussion Thread

« on: February 15, 2011, 01:51:45 PM »

I have known spanish translator of the game. I asked him for the release date of the game and he couldn't answer me (it's confidential), but I least I know console version is under developing. Don't give up!

this seems like good news... i assume that soon we will have a release date - still hoping it will be april this year.If/when you have any infos about the developing stage please keep us informed

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General Fighting Game Discussion / Re: Who getting MVC 3?

« on: February 15, 2011, 12:02:46 PM »

If i've understood it right x-factor activation works as a reversal but can only be used from the ground, it then resets and locks damage scaling for it's duration so that everything does full damage.

I heard that when someone does a l m h heavy chain you are supposed to be able to activate x-factor inbetween the medium and the heavy attack and turn shit right around.. I don't know, it may be op, but i do think that is what they where aiming for.

just look at this shit man ) ... look at it!

http://www.gamercafe.cl/2011/02/13/marvel-vs-capcom-3-wat-waaaaaaaaaaaat/#comments

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General Fighting Game Discussion / Re: Who getting MVC 3?

« on: February 15, 2011, 11:36:08 AM »

without any technical discussion on why you think x-factor is so bad, i can't take your statement seriously. also, no, they aren't going to patch out a major mechanic from their game

Just look at that video man ... does that need to be explained in "technical terms"? That to me is called bullshit... in a few days i will get the game and i am sure it will be fun to play but when it comes to competitional gameplay X-factor for sure will bring a lot of drama and salt if it's not nerfed at least (also a lot of characters will chip damage the hell out of you with x factor) - a good solution to this might also be to turn damage to low - yipes made some kind of demo here and suggested the same thing when it comes to tournament play, not because of only the x factor but also because of the high damage in game with medium level selected.I am not complaining  it's just an obvious observation for now...

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General Fighting Game Discussion / Re: Who getting MVC 3?

« on: February 15, 2011, 03:25:46 AM »

http://www.gamercafe.cl/2011/02/13/marvel-vs-capcom-3-wat-waaaaaaaaaaaat/#comments

I don't know why capcom is starting to put shits like this in the games.X factor is just bullshit for the noobs to troll - i hope they release a patch to disable this X crap in online matches.Getting it soon for the ps3