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Show posts MenuQuote from: t3h mAsTarOth...! on July 17, 2012, 07:48:27 PM
The post on hwa is not bad by nagato... But you missed out all his normals... He has one of the best s.D or s.A or s.C+D or j.C+D... And slide... Also you can't just block against a good Hwa or he'll tick throw you (alternate guard won't work)... All the characters you mentioned that can zone him, he can just hyper hop their FBs... Also if you eat any of his DPs while drunk, you will loose at least 500+ anywhere on screen with 1 drive...
Quote from: Matt Alder on July 16, 2012, 10:18:38 PMQuote from: Nagato1992 on July 16, 2012, 06:00:12 PM
I have disagreements with the list. I guess it is okay, but some people are underrated such as Clark, Ralf, Claw Iori(he's easily in the top bracket and is one of the best anchors in the game), and Maxima.
Claw Iori is very good, we had him in the 9th spot on S tier until only a few weeks ago, but really he lacks quite a lot. Compare him to Hwa Jai. Hwa has a better version of every single offensive tool that Claw has going for him, deals far more damage as well as having better defensive tools. Claw severely lacks defensive tools and zoning tools, and his grappling game is decent at best with a slow 9f grab that has horrible range, and an EX grab that's not even instant (still 5f startup), so it's somewhat easier to bait than most. While he's pretty good with pressure and can deal massive damage, he just suffers severely from a few bad matchups, namely every character on the S tier. He still has amazing normals and can deal absurd damage with HD, but he can be kept out fairly easily by any character with solid zoning tools/far reaching normals since the removal or severe nerfing of the invulnerability on all of his EX moves from the arcade version.
I think people that think of Hwa Jai as lacking in certain aspects don't actually know Hwa Jai very well. He literally lacks nothing. Zoning? If you throw a fireball at him, he can shoryu through it for an 800+ damage combo anywhere. Qcb+B/D pressure is NOT something that Hwa should be doing. He's actually got frame advantage after d/f+B slide, meaning he has no need to ever use his qcb+B/D outside of combos. He's got a0f2F (Fixed. -Kane317) grab, an invulnerable halfscreen grab, an invulnerable halfscreen attack that gives Hwa advantage on block, and he can win games entirely relying on his borderline broken A/B poke game (considering any normal he touches you with could lead into a literal death combo without even using HD). Basically whichever range you're fighting in, Hwa has an answer to every situation. He doesn't have a single bad matchup.
Quote from: bopper on July 17, 2012, 02:17:02 PMI laughed too hard at this. Sad thing is that it is true.
Most of the Kim players where Korean tho, and they tend to be a bit biased towards Korean characters. I mean every single Korean TEKKEN player has a pocket Hwoarang
Quote from: t3h mAsTarOth...! on July 17, 2012, 02:09:40 PM
If people arent convinced after evo... Just look at the 5 most used characters... Karate, Hwa, Kim, Ex Iori, Shen...
Quote from: Blake/White on July 17, 2012, 06:26:29 AMQuote from: Nagato1992 on July 16, 2012, 06:00:12 PM
The second row to the right is the best point characters in the game. They also play anchor really well but due to their damage restraints, I would always put them first or second, but primarily first especially K.'
To be honest, I don't think K' is best on point in this game, at least not anymore. You really do need to spend meter with him to get the max benefit of his tools. It may have been a different story in arcade where Trigger was much safer and you got stronger midscreen combos, but now he seems almost reliant on meter. On the other hand, he's not exactly the best anchor either, which makes me feel that second is the best place for him. First works great, but he's extremely versatile as the middle character.
Quote from: LouisCipher on July 16, 2012, 04:56:16 AM
No, he's definitely a top character. His footsies are amazingly good for the most part and when he's Drunk, forget about it. If he's got you in the corner and he's Drunk, good luck to ya'.
Quote from: Running Wild on July 15, 2012, 11:38:31 PMYeah it is.
That knee into flip kick is essentially a rekka.