no i meant as in goros counter is his neomax, it already does almost 60% damage. imagine having a lifelead on console in xiii with goro, going hd mode with at least 2 bars and waiting or your opponent. any attack they do is 60% gone with 2 bars. if you have 3 bars, attack them and mix them up for a dm throw and cancel that ino nm, bam. console version of goro is gonn be pretty beastly as a 2nd or 3rd character.