Was going to make a long mention of this in the off-topic section, then decided to resurrect the old thread I made about it.
Konami Pre-E3 Show - Kojima Productions SegmentIt's a weird space to be in now, to love everything about the series up to this point (including the plot/story elements of MGS2 & 4 which most don't like but I find a high-point to the series) and LOVE where Revengance is just as much.
Now Revengance is at that point in-between the '10 tech demo and the new work Platinum has put in, elements drawn from both. The action...THE FUCKING ACTION. I should say something like "Platinum. That is all," but I've never been into saying something is gold based just on who's making it (minus KojimaPro), but Platinum is getting there for me. All the different types of enemies I was hoping was going to be there was there, and the extra weapons and sense of stealth is a nice bit of icing on a cake. I wish I could say something about the story, but I really don't know much more than what's already known.
Most interesting part of all this to see the reactions. The fanbase is still really split, between action lovers (in the DMC, Bayonetta, Vanquish styles), and MG"purists". The only ones that seem to have any consistent validity in their negativity are those who outright say "I don't like to play games like Bayonetta, etc". The rest, it scares me to see how many people forget the details of MGS so much that they want to write this game completely off.
"What is this shit. Looks like DMC and not MGS" - It's not MGS it's MGR, a cyborg ninja title. And go play MGS1&4 to refresh your memory on the capabilities of a cyborg ninja.
"Ninjas should use stealth and hide around" - Because of their vulnerabilites they used stealth, which Raiden hasn't had a need for since MGS2. He was out in the open in a lot of MGS4 because he didn't need stealth.
"2010 Fox Engine looked and played better" - Looked better, I agree but I love how PG gets at least close to what was. Played better is a hell of a guess.
"The story sucks" - As with any MG game, it's best to have it in your hands to see where the story goes. There was more story reveals in the VGA trailer than the E3 one. I do hope some of the elements going over Raiden's past in those "Make it Right" trailers are there, just to see Solidus' treatment of young Jack first-hand. Other than that, it's most likely cannon, and can most likely be treated as a side-story (affecting only a few characters in the universe versus all of them like any MGS did). And like I said in a previous post, this is the wild west Liquid Ocelot told Snake would be happening with the Patriots and GW's plans destroyed. "After the fall of the Patroits, cyborg technology runs rampant, and information flows freely."Love how anti-Cold war that sounds.
"The integrity of the franchise is lost" - lots of people are saying this without exactly saying this, and I do understand where they're coming from. More than anything it's the trailer's presentation that give people a bad feeling. The music and editing are probably PG's contribution more or less. I hope the in-game will still feel more MGS-ish in some sense.
"I'd still pay full price for a release of that 2010 tech demo" - as big a fan of MG I am, I might too. But since they couldn't take it beyond that, I have to assume the best it could've been without out-sourcing to PG is a slightly open-world mini-game where you got to be Raiden and slash everything.
Well, my rant's over for now. Just hope people from MG and non-MG backgrounds give this a fair shake equally now.