Author Topic: Post on Guard Crush Frame Advantage  (Read 1130 times)

EXWildWolf

  • Strongest Tiger
  • ***
  • Posts: 214
    • View Profile
Post on Guard Crush Frame Advantage
« on: February 19, 2017, 07:16:33 AM »
When Guard Crushing an opponent, there is a certain period of time where if they are hit, they are put into a big amount of hitstun.

https://twitter.com/EXWildWolf/status/833148764701405184

Now you maybe asking, "Why does this happen?"

Well here is my theory. When you see a character get guard crushed, do you ever notice that there's a small little shaking in the character getting crushed when their hands are up in the air? You don't really pay attention to it, you just hit them and be on your way to comboing them. But what I found and this is my theory is that if you hit them before that little shaking animation, they will replicate the length of that whole animation in a hitstun state if they are hit before the shaking animation comes out. This leads to combos and links that shouldn't really happen but do anyway. Here are a few video examples of what Wauhti and I gathered when rediscovering this tech.

https://twitter.com/SpiidiOnNoita/status/833150522232279040

https://twitter.com/EXWildWolf/status/833150736317902848

https://twitter.com/SpiidiOnNoita/status/833139831203037184

https://twitter.com/SpiidiOnNoita/status/833144749594968064

https://twitter.com/SpiidiOnNoita/status/833147854558523392

https://twitter.com/EXWildWolf/status/833179694992289792

https://twitter.com/EXWildWolf/status/833182651469045760

As you can see the possibilities for punishment could expand more depending on the character, so try and experiment with your main and see what can work. It's an interesting "Bug," If I could describe it.


Krusan

  • Strongest Tiger
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
  • H!
    • View Profile
Re: Post on Guard Crush Frame Advantage
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2017, 10:53:33 AM »
Guard crush may cause the next hit (normal, command, special or whatever) to hit meaty, making it less negative, making it positive, or making it have more frame advantage, and thatīs why you can link "unusual" things after it. I donīt think thereīmore secret to it than that.
You can see examples of this in some of our vids like hitting meaty with Matureīs qcb+B or the last hit of Aliceīs qcb+PP. In this way you can combo a sC after qcb+B with Mature or juggle with f+B after qcb+PP with Alice.

EXWildWolf

  • Strongest Tiger
  • ***
  • Posts: 214
    • View Profile
Re: Post on Guard Crush Frame Advantage
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2017, 09:30:33 PM »
that is in my theory, but I don't think it's intentional. The hit stop that happens during guard crush shaking has some sort of effect on hitstun that allows for certain links to happen with a strict timing.