it's the same thing even worse (you just defend playmore using some kids arguments - there were no extras but hitbox and damage value changes 2002um tougeki came after a few monhs after regular 2002um - this was the point of the discusion no, we were talking about extras and releasing a rehash after little time?).still this doesn t matter because 13 will fail.Leaving asside umvc3 october a lot of good games will be released that period, if playmore or atlus wants to make money they must make teh game attractive to the casual gamer...the casual gamer which will spend his money on uncharted, batman whatever, resistance 3, and other shit that gets released before and after october.especially in europe the price is just outrageous.last post in this discussion for me ... fanboys will be fanboys - have fun