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'''Close''' | '''Close''' | ||
* cl.A: | * cl.A: Can stop hops, otherwise useless. Chainable and cancelable. | ||
* cl.B: Use cr.A instead for more reliable range and same combo potential. | |||
* cl.C: 2f start up, 2 hits, both cancelable. | * cl.B: Use cr.A instead for more reliable range and same combo potential. Cancelable. | ||
* cl.C: 2f start up, 2 hits, both cancelable. Can link from cr.B. Your heavy normal for combos. | |||
* cl.D: Same as st.D. | * cl.D: Same as st.D. | ||
'''Standing''' | '''Standing''' | ||
*st.A: Crappy range | |||
* | * st.A: Crappy range, can stop hops from close up but no other use for it really. Chainable. | ||
*st.C: | |||
*st.D: Can work as anti air against hops but dp+ | * st.B: Farthest range of his normals. Good as a poke. Combos after cr.B. | ||
* st.C: Cancelable, but slow and crappy range and whiffs on crouchers. Rarely useful. | |||
* st.D: Can work as anti-air against hops, but dp+P is much more reliable. | |||
'''Crouching''' | '''Crouching''' | ||
* | |||
* | * cr.A: Fast and good range for a cr.A. Use this in confirms and blockstrings after cr.B and as a short poke. Chainable and cancelable. | ||
*cr.C: Not a reliable anti air | |||
*cr.D: | * cr.B: Low combo starter. Links into cl.C. Chainable. | ||
* cr.C: Not a reliable anti-air. Can be used in punish or combo situations when too far away for cl.C. Cancelable. | |||
* cr.D: Cancelable sweep. Not bad at what it does. | |||
'''Jumping''' | '''Jumping''' | ||
*j.A: Nice air to air. | |||
* | * j.A: Nice air-to-air. | ||
*j.C: Decent | |||
*j.D: Most damaging jump button | * j.B: Typical Kusanagi knee. Often beats weaker anti-airs and air normals, and can crossup without much hassle. VERY GOOD. | ||
* j.C: Decent jump-in, but nothing special about it. Use this on characters j.D might whiff on. | |||
* j.D: Most damaging jump button (except for j.CD). Usually used for air zoning out of a hop. Can whiff on small crouchers and low-profile moves. | |||
'''CD Normals''' | '''CD Normals''' | ||
* | |||
* | * st.CD: Quite fast, enough range to hit after some light-button blockstrings. Saisyu has good safe options to fish for counterhit combos with this. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff. | ||
* j.CD: Great move. Often wins against other good moves and anti-airs thanks to good hitbox. Good for fishing counterhit combos just like regular CD. | |||
== Throws == | == Throws == | ||
'''Flaming Hammer:''' | '''Flaming Hammer:''' <code>b/f+C (close)</code> | ||
'''Swift Shoulder Throw:''' | '''Swift Shoulder Throw:''' <code>b/f+D (close)</code> | ||
== Command Moves == | == Command Moves == | ||
'''Thundering Hammer:''' f + A | '''Thundering Hammer:''' <code>f+A</code> | ||
*Hits overhead | |||
* Hits overhead. | |||
'''Cranium Press:''' f + B | '''Cranium Press:''' <code>f+B</code> | ||
*Plus on block, but combos from nothing. You can | |||
* Plus on block, but combos from nothing. You can link into a variety of moves on hit. | |||
* Mostly exists to extend your offense with plus frames, can be interrupted since it's not a true block string. | |||
== Special Moves == | == Special Moves == | ||
'''Dark Thrust:''' dp + A/C | '''Dark Thrust:''' <code>dp+A/C</code> | ||
* Quite generic DP move. | |||
* | |||
''' | '''Fire Ball:''' <code>qcf+A/C</code> | ||
* Not-so-great projectile. Use it with care. | |||
* | |||
'''Fusillade of Flame:''' qcb + A/C ( | '''Divine Demolisher:''' <code>hcb+B/D</code> | ||
* | |||
* Very slow overhead move. Not recommended. | |||
'''Hit Hatchet:''' <code>dp+B/D</code> | |||
* B version combos from cr.A, D only combos from heavy buttons. | |||
* Very nice go-to combo move that causes a hard knockdown and has decent damage. | |||
'''Fusillade of Flame:''' <code>qcb+A/C (x2)</code> | |||
* Saisyu's rekka. Not recommended outside of specific Quick MAX combos. | |||
== Desperation Moves == | == Desperation Moves == | ||
'''Serpent Wave:''' qcb, hcf + A/C (can be held | '''Serpent Wave:''' <code>qcb,hcf+A/C (can be held)</code> | ||
*Best | |||
* Best Orochinagi archetype DM in the game. | |||
'''Annihilating Slicer:''' <code>qcfx2+A/C</code> | |||
* A DM with very fast startup. | |||
* Your main DM for confirms from lows. | |||
* | |||
== Combos == | == Combos == | ||
'''General Notes''' | |||
=== Meterless === | === Meterless === | ||
: <code>cr.B, cr.A, dp+B</code> | |||
''Low'' | |||
: <code>cr.B, cr.A, dp+B</code> | |||
: Basic low confirm, might whiff at max range cr.A. | : Basic low confirm, might whiff at max range cr.A. | ||
: <code>cl.C( | : <code>cr.B, cl.C(1), f+A, dp+D</code>: | ||
: Low starter frame link. | |||
''Mid/Jump-In'' | |||
: <code>(j.X), cl.C(1), f+A, dp+D</code> | |||
: Your go-to heavy starter. | : Your go-to heavy starter. | ||
: <code>f+B, st.B | : <code>f+B, st.B/dp+B</code> | ||
=== With Meter === | |||
: <code>cr.B, cr.A, qcfx+P</code> | |||
: Low confirm into DM. | |||
: <code> | : <code>cl.C, f+A, qcb,hcf+P</code> | ||
: <code>cl.C(1 | : <code>cr.B, cl.C(1), f+A, qcb,hcf+P</code>: | ||
: Low frame link into super. | |||
: <code> | : <code>f+B, qcfx2+P</code> | ||
=== With Quick MAX === | |||
: <code>cr.B, ABC, cl.C, f+A, qcb,hcf+P</code> | |||
: <code>cr.B, ABC, cl.C | |||
: <code>f+B, ABC, st.C, qcb,hcf+P</code> | : <code>f+B, ABC, st.C, qcb,hcf+P</code> | ||
: <code>cr.B, cl.C(1), f+A, qcb | : <code>cr.B, cl.C(1), f+A, qcb+A, qcb+A, ABC, qcb,hcf+P</code> | ||
: | : Best combo. | ||
== Strategy & Tips == | == Strategy & Tips == |
Revision as of 01:12, 28 December 2021
Introduction
Saisyu has great offensive tools to stay close to the opponent and confirm into big metered damage or a meterless hard-knockdown. Alternatively, he can zone out the opponent with his ground-traveling fireball and a strong anti-air DP. His weakness definitely lies in his mostly short-ranged normals, which often cannot compete with the opponents' in neutral. Saisyu has to make up for this deficit with good positioning, so he can use his great jump-in normals to get in and start his pressure game.
Changes from Previous Versions
98 to 98UM
Normals:
- cl.C's activation range has been reduced, it can still be linked from a cl.A or cr.A
- st.B now has 3 more active frames
- f+A how has 2 frames less startup
Specials:
- qcf+P now has 3 frames less recovery
- hcb+B now has 2 frames less startup, now connects from heavies and f+A
- qcb+A now has 2 frames less startup, you can follow up after the second hit now
Supers:
- qcfx2+P now has less startup; both A and MAX versions have 5 frames less startup and can now connect from lights
- qcfx2+C now has invincibility during the first active frame as well
98UM to 98UMFE
Specials:
- dp+B's second hit now has a larger hitbox, so it shouldn't whiff if the first connects
- hcb+K now has less recovery, second hit should be easier to connect if the first connects
- qcb+P's first hit now has a bigger hitbox and less recovery
Supers:
- qcfx2+P's A and MAX versions have faster startup
Normal Moves
Close
- cl.A: Can stop hops, otherwise useless. Chainable and cancelable.
- cl.B: Use cr.A instead for more reliable range and same combo potential. Cancelable.
- cl.C: 2f start up, 2 hits, both cancelable. Can link from cr.B. Your heavy normal for combos.
- cl.D: Same as st.D.
Standing
- st.A: Crappy range, can stop hops from close up but no other use for it really. Chainable.
- st.B: Farthest range of his normals. Good as a poke. Combos after cr.B.
- st.C: Cancelable, but slow and crappy range and whiffs on crouchers. Rarely useful.
- st.D: Can work as anti-air against hops, but dp+P is much more reliable.
Crouching
- cr.A: Fast and good range for a cr.A. Use this in confirms and blockstrings after cr.B and as a short poke. Chainable and cancelable.
- cr.B: Low combo starter. Links into cl.C. Chainable.
- cr.C: Not a reliable anti-air. Can be used in punish or combo situations when too far away for cl.C. Cancelable.
- cr.D: Cancelable sweep. Not bad at what it does.
Jumping
- j.A: Nice air-to-air.
- j.B: Typical Kusanagi knee. Often beats weaker anti-airs and air normals, and can crossup without much hassle. VERY GOOD.
- j.C: Decent jump-in, but nothing special about it. Use this on characters j.D might whiff on.
- j.D: Most damaging jump button (except for j.CD). Usually used for air zoning out of a hop. Can whiff on small crouchers and low-profile moves.
CD Normals
- st.CD: Quite fast, enough range to hit after some light-button blockstrings. Saisyu has good safe options to fish for counterhit combos with this. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff.
- j.CD: Great move. Often wins against other good moves and anti-airs thanks to good hitbox. Good for fishing counterhit combos just like regular CD.
Throws
Flaming Hammer: b/f+C (close)
Swift Shoulder Throw: b/f+D (close)
Command Moves
Thundering Hammer: f+A
- Hits overhead.
Cranium Press: f+B
- Plus on block, but combos from nothing. You can link into a variety of moves on hit.
- Mostly exists to extend your offense with plus frames, can be interrupted since it's not a true block string.
Special Moves
Dark Thrust: dp+A/C
- Quite generic DP move.
Fire Ball: qcf+A/C
- Not-so-great projectile. Use it with care.
Divine Demolisher: hcb+B/D
- Very slow overhead move. Not recommended.
Hit Hatchet: dp+B/D
- B version combos from cr.A, D only combos from heavy buttons.
- Very nice go-to combo move that causes a hard knockdown and has decent damage.
Fusillade of Flame: qcb+A/C (x2)
- Saisyu's rekka. Not recommended outside of specific Quick MAX combos.
Desperation Moves
Serpent Wave: qcb,hcf+A/C (can be held)
- Best Orochinagi archetype DM in the game.
Annihilating Slicer: qcfx2+A/C
- A DM with very fast startup.
- Your main DM for confirms from lows.
Combos
General Notes
Meterless
Low
cr.B, cr.A, dp+B
- Basic low confirm, might whiff at max range cr.A.
cr.B, cl.C(1), f+A, dp+D
:- Low starter frame link.
Mid/Jump-In
(j.X), cl.C(1), f+A, dp+D
- Your go-to heavy starter.
f+B, st.B/dp+B
With Meter
cr.B, cr.A, qcfx+P
- Low confirm into DM.
cl.C, f+A, qcb,hcf+P
cr.B, cl.C(1), f+A, qcb,hcf+P
:- Low frame link into super.
f+B, qcfx2+P
With Quick MAX
cr.B, ABC, cl.C, f+A, qcb,hcf+P
f+B, ABC, st.C, qcb,hcf+P
cr.B, cl.C(1), f+A, qcb+A, qcb+A, ABC, qcb,hcf+P
- Best combo.