* qcfx2+K now has invincibility until just after the throw hitbox appears
* qcfx2+K now has invincibility until just after the throw hitbox appears
==Normals==
==Normal Moves==
'''Close'''
'''Close'''
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'''CD Normals'''
'''CD Normals'''
* Stand CD has good range much like her stand C except it comes out slower, whiff cancel-able/cancel-able
* Jump CD comes out fast making it a good air-to-air when used early
* st.CD: Has good range, much like her st.C, except it comes out slower. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff.
* j.CD: Comes out fast, making it a good air-to-air when used early.
==Throws==
==Throws==
'''Death Blow:''' b/f + C
*Vice grabs the opponent then scratches them, simple stuff.
* Can be broken, regular knockdown
'''Death Blow:''' <code>b/f+C (close)</code>
* Regular throw, techable. Vice grabs the opponent then scratches them, simple stuff.
'''Backlash:''' <code>b/f+D (close)</code>
'''Backlash:''' b/f + D
* Regular throw, techable. Vice grabs the opponent, then tosses them behind her. Switches sides. Good for setting up meaty jump-ins.
* Vice grabs them then tosses them behind her, good for setting up meaty jump-ins.
* Can be broken, reverse knockdown
==Command Moves==
==Command Moves==
'''Monstrosity:''' f + A
* Vice makes a fist then hits them over the head, good for string normals into special attacks, overhead when used alone so it will hit crouching opponents regardless of blocking, hard knockdown when done to opponents in the air.
'''Monstrosity:''' <code>f+A</code>
* Vice hits the opponent over the head. Overhead when used raw, cancelable mid when canceled into. Good for combos and blockstrings. Hard knockdown when done to opponents in the air.
==Special Moves==
==Special Moves==
'''Gore Fest:''' hcb f + A/C close
* Vice grabs her opponent then rushes forward dragging them across the ground, then throws them into the air, command grab properties, reverse knockdown.
'''Gore Fest:''' <code>hcb,f+A/C (close)</code>
* Vice grabs her opponent then rushes forward, dragging them across the ground before throwing them into the air.
* Fast command grab with lots of damage and corner carry.
'''Deicide:''' hcf + B/D
'''Deicide:''' <code>hcf+B/D</code>
* Vice does a quick swipe attack with her hand throwing the opponent to the other side of the screen, the weak version can combo from strong attacks and her command normal, the strong version range is a little further but comes out a lot slower, it can grab jumping opponents but only when they are close to the ground, causes a reverse knockdown.
* Vice does a quick swipe attack with her hand, throwing the opponent to the other side of the screen. Switches sides.
* B version can combo from strong attacks and f+A, the D version has more range but is too slow to combo.
* Can grab jumping opponents, but only when they are close to the ground.
'''Mayhem:''' <code>qcb+A/C</code>
* A very fast shoulder tackle.
* A version combos from just about everything except her command normal, making it good for conversions from lights. It's also safer on block. The C version does more damage and goes further.
* A shoulder tackle, combos from just about everything except her command normal, the weak version is a lot safer on block than the strong version because of its recovery.
┗ '''Mithan's Robe:''' qcf + A/C
:* Follow-up jumping grab for additional damage.
* Follow-up jumping grab for additional damage, input the command as soon as the the shoulder hits but only if the shoulder hits otherwise she'll jump into the air completely missing the opponent along with some really nasty recovery.
:* Input the command as soon as the the shoulder hits, but only if the shoulder hits, otherwise she'll jump into the air completely missing the opponent and opening herself up to a huge punish.
'''Blackend:''' hcf + A/C close
'''Blackend:''' <code>hcf+A/C (close)</code>
* Command grab, invincible at start-up making it a good reversal against un-expecting opponents, reverse knockdown when used without the follow-up Mithan's Robe.
┗ '''Mithan's Robe:''' qcf + A/C
* Command grab with some invincible startup, making it a good reversal on a read or a nice way to bait opponents.
* Follow-up jumping grab for additional damage, input the command right before she throws them into the air.
: '''Mithan's Robe:''' <code>qcf+A/C</code>
'''Outrage:''' qcb + B/D
:* Same as the followup to qcb+P, except obviously you can't whiff this one on block and you also need to input it slightly before the opponent is thrown into the air.
* Vice does a barrage of kicks really fast making them as sharp as blades, weak version combos from weak attacks and does 4 hits but also pushes her hitbox back after about the 3rd hit, strong version makes her hop forward then do the attack for 10 hits but it's also not as safe as the weak version because of the hop. Both versions can be canceled after the first hit by pressing ABCD.
'''Outrage:''' <code>qcb+B/D</code>
'''Ravenous:''' qcb + B/D in air
* Vice does a fast barrage of razor-sharp kicks.
* An air variant of Outrage, can be combo'd into from her j. A/C.
* B version combos from lights and does 4 hits, but also pushes her hitbox back after about the 3rd hit.
* D version makes her hop forward, then do the attack for 10 hits, but it's also not as fast or safe as the weak version because of the hop.
* Both versions can be canceled after the first hit by pressing ABCD.
'''Ravenous:''' <code>qcb+B/D (in air)</code>
* An air variant of qcb+K. Can be combo-ed into from cancelable air normals.
==Desperation Moves==
==Desperation Moves==
'''Withering Surface:''' qcf x 2 + A/C
* Vice leaps across the screen in an arc-like fashion to grab the opponent and slams them 3 times, weak version goes half-screen but the jump she does is high, it can be used to punish laggy projectiles from mid-screen, the strong version make her do a lower/faster jump and she goes about 90% of the screen, both version do 3 hits and she is completely invincible during the jumps arc.
*Invincible Start-up
*Grab DM
'''Withering Surface:''' <code>qcfx2+A/C</code>
* Vice leaps forward to command grab the opponent and slams them into the ground repeatedly.
* A version goes halfscreen but the jump she does is high. It can be used to punish slow projectiles from midscreen.
* C version make her do a lower/faster jump and she goes about 90% of the screen.
'''Negative Gain:''' hcb x 2 + B/D close
* Both the A and C versions do 3 hits, and she is completely invincible during the forward leap.
* Instant command grab, Vice grabs her opponent and does a frankensteiner 3 times, combos from just about all her normals, st. D is the easiest way to combo into it, it can also be used in a variety of ways with quick max/evade.
*Grab DM
*Quick MAX/EVADE OK
* MAX version follows the same trajectory as the C version, but does more hits and damage.
*Anti-Air Withering Surface, it works very well as a reversal but only on opponents that won't see it coming. In most cases jumping in on Vice usually isn't an issue but because she has this DM now she is can be a major threat and is more likely to keep her opponents grounded and close which allows for more chances to catch them with Blackend or even Gore Fest upo reversal, it's also more likely to keep them out of your face as soon because of the amount of options available.
*Anti-Air
*Grab DM
==Super Desperation Moves==
* Instant command grab. Vice grabs her opponent and does three frankensteiners in a row.
'''Withering Surface:''' qcf x 2 + AC
* It's executed the same way as the strong version except it does 6 hits instead of 3, does a good chunk of more damage than the regular version.
*Invinble Start-up
*Grab DM
* Combos from just about all of her normals.
'''Negative Gain:''' hcb x 2 + BD close
* Vice's main combo DM.
* Instant command grab, works the same way as the regular versions except she does 5 frankensteiners instead of 3
*Grab DM
*Quick MAX/EVADE OK
* MAX version does five frankensteiners and more damage.
'''Dying Fetus:''' qcf x 2 + B/D
'''Dying Fetus:''' <code>qcfx2+B/D </code>
*Anti-Air Withering Surface, it works very well as a reversal but only on opponents that won't see it coming. In most cases jumping in on Vice usually isn't an issue but because she has this DM now she is can be a major threat and is more likely to keep her opponents grounded and close which allows for more chances to catch them with Blackend or even Gore Fest upo reversal, it's also more likely to keep them out of your face as soon because of the amount of options available, SDM does significantly more damage.
*Anti-Air
* Anti-air version of qcfx2+P that only hits airborne opponents.
*Grab DM
* In most cases, jumping in on Vice usually isn't an issue, but because she has this DM she can be a major threat and is more likely to keep her opponents grounded and close, which allows for more chances to catch them with her grounded options and command grabs.
* MAX version does more hits and damage.
==ADV/EX Strats==
==ADV/EX Strats==
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== Combos ==
== Combos ==
'''General Notes:'''
* In any metered combo, you can replace hcbx2+K with hcbx2+BD for more damage if you have the resources.
===Meterless===
===Meterless===
Low
''Low''
: <code>cr.B×3, qcb+P > qcf+P</code>:
: <code>cr.B×N, qcb+A > qcf+P</code>
: <code>cr.B, cl.B, hcb,f+P</code>:
: <code>cr.B, cl.B, hcb,f+P</code>
Anywhere
''Mid/Jump-In''
: <code>(j.X), cl.D, hcb,f+P</code>:
: <code>(j.X), cl.D, hcb,f+P</code>
: <code>cl.D, hcb,f+P</code>:
: <code>cl.D, f+A, hcf+K</code>
:* Standing combo variant of previous combo, cl.D is easy to hit confirm off of
: Standing combo into hcf+K, switches sides.
: <code>cl.D, f+A, hcf+K</code>:
: <code>cl.D, f+A, qcb+C > qcf+P</code>
:* Standing combo into hcf+K, switches sides.
: <code>cl.D, f+A, qcb+C > qcf+P</code>:
===With Meter===
Quick Dodge
''Low''
: <code>f+A, AB, A/B/C/D, hcf+B</code>:
: <code>cr.B, cl.B, hcbx2+K</code>
: You can do this as cr.B, hcb,f+B, hcb+K for an easier cancel.
: <code>f+A, AB, A/B/C/D, qcb+C > qcf+P</code>:
''Mid/Jump-In''
:* Quick dodge combos from overhead
===With Meter===
* You can replace hcbx2+K with hcbx2+BD for more damage if you have 3 stocks in Advanced Mode.
Low
: <code>(j.X), cl.D, hcbx2+K</code>
: <code>cr.B, cl.B, hcbx2+K</code>:
''Quick Dodge''
:* You can do this as cr.B, hcb,f+B, hcb+K for an easier cancel
Anywhere
: <code>f+A, AB, A/B/C/D, hcf+B</code>
: <code>(j.X), cl.D, hcbx2+K</code>:
: <code>f+A, AB, A/B/C/D, qcb+C > qcf+P</code>
: Quick dodge combos from overhead.
: <code>cl.D, hcbx2+K</code>:
===With Quick MAX===
:* Standing combo variant of previous combo, cl.D is easy to hit confirm off of
===With Quick Max===
''Low''
Low
: <code>cr.B, cr.A, ABC, cl.D, hcbx2+K</code>
: For cl.D to connect, you need to do a microwalk after the Quick MAX activation. Easy to hit-confirm thanks to cl.D being two hits.
: <code>cr.B, cr.A, ABC, cl.D, hcbx2+K</code>:
''Quick Dodge''
:* For cl.D to connect you need to do a microwalk after the quick max activation. Easy to hit confirm thanks to cl.D being two hits.
Vice is a intended to be primarily a grappler, with added solid hit confirms and poking tools. Ironically, she can stand her ground and play neutral very well, but struggles to get in and apply pressure to make full use of her command grabs.
Positive
Easy low confirm to special (cr.B[x3], qcb+A, qcf+A)
1f command grab and slower invul command grab
Super long pokes (st.B, st.C, st.CD, hcf+K)
Negative
No reversal against wakeup jumpins
Situational anti airs, no one move solution
Very floaty jump hurts her pressure game
Changes from Previous Versions
98 to 98UM
Normals:
Hitbox on second hit of cl.D has been buffed, it now hits tiny crouchers and Chris's guarding stance
Specials:
qcb+K now has longer recovery, but you can cancel it at any time by pressing ABCD
hcf+P now does less damage
qcb+P now has longer startup invincibility
qcb+C now has 2 frames less startup and 2 frames more recovery
Supers:
Added qcfx2+K, an anti-air grab DM
98UM to 98UMFE
Normals:
j.C's active frames have been lengthened from 4 to 8
j.D's active frames have been lengthened from 5 to 8
Supers:
qcfx2+K now has invincibility until just after the throw hitbox appears
Normal Moves
Close
cl.A: Same as st.A.
cl.B: Chainable and cancelable.
cl.C: Has relatively poor reach and lots of pushback, making it difficult to use in BnBs. Cancelable.
cl.D: Two-hitting normal, making it very easy to hit-confirm into anything by itself. Can also be used as a makeshift anti-air. Cancelable on the second hit only.
Standing
st.A: Good speed and reach. Nice anti-air against hops. Chainable and cancelable.
st.B: Longer-range poke.
st.C: Another long-ranged poke. Preferred over st.B because of its better hitstun, startup, and damage.
st.D: Can used as an anti-air poke, but it's a little slow.
Crouching
cr.A: Chainable and cancelable on hit, block, and whiff.
cr.B: Standard low combo starter. Chainable and cancelable on hit, block, and whiff.
cr.C: Moderately good anti-air if used early enough. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff. Can also be kara-canceled.
cr.D: Sweeps the opponent. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff. Can also be kara-canceled.
Jumping
j.A: Jump-in. Cancelable.
j.B: Good meaty and instant overhead.
j.C: Jump-in, very active. Cancelable.
j.D: Air-to-air.
CD Normals
st.CD: Has good range, much like her st.C, except it comes out slower. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff.
j.CD: Comes out fast, making it a good air-to-air when used early.
Throws
Death Blow:b/f+C (close)
Regular throw, techable. Vice grabs the opponent then scratches them, simple stuff.
Backlash:b/f+D (close)
Regular throw, techable. Vice grabs the opponent, then tosses them behind her. Switches sides. Good for setting up meaty jump-ins.
Command Moves
Monstrosity:f+A
Vice hits the opponent over the head. Overhead when used raw, cancelable mid when canceled into. Good for combos and blockstrings. Hard knockdown when done to opponents in the air.
Special Moves
Gore Fest:hcb,f+A/C (close)
Vice grabs her opponent then rushes forward, dragging them across the ground before throwing them into the air.
Fast command grab with lots of damage and corner carry.
Deicide:hcf+B/D
Vice does a quick swipe attack with her hand, throwing the opponent to the other side of the screen. Switches sides.
B version can combo from strong attacks and f+A, the D version has more range but is too slow to combo.
Can grab jumping opponents, but only when they are close to the ground.
Mayhem:qcb+A/C
A very fast shoulder tackle.
A version combos from just about everything except her command normal, making it good for conversions from lights. It's also safer on block. The C version does more damage and goes further.
Mithan's Robe:qcf+A/C (during qcb+P)
Follow-up jumping grab for additional damage.
Input the command as soon as the the shoulder hits, but only if the shoulder hits, otherwise she'll jump into the air completely missing the opponent and opening herself up to a huge punish.
Blackend:hcf+A/C (close)
Command grab with some invincible startup, making it a good reversal on a read or a nice way to bait opponents.
Mithan's Robe:qcf+A/C
Same as the followup to qcb+P, except obviously you can't whiff this one on block and you also need to input it slightly before the opponent is thrown into the air.
Outrage:qcb+B/D
Vice does a fast barrage of razor-sharp kicks.
B version combos from lights and does 4 hits, but also pushes her hitbox back after about the 3rd hit.
D version makes her hop forward, then do the attack for 10 hits, but it's also not as fast or safe as the weak version because of the hop.
Both versions can be canceled after the first hit by pressing ABCD.
Ravenous:qcb+B/D (in air)
An air variant of qcb+K. Can be combo-ed into from cancelable air normals.
Desperation Moves
Withering Surface:qcfx2+A/C
Vice leaps forward to command grab the opponent and slams them into the ground repeatedly.
A version goes halfscreen but the jump she does is high. It can be used to punish slow projectiles from midscreen.
C version make her do a lower/faster jump and she goes about 90% of the screen.
Both the A and C versions do 3 hits, and she is completely invincible during the forward leap.
MAX version follows the same trajectory as the C version, but does more hits and damage.
Negative Gain:hcbx2+B/D (close)
Instant command grab. Vice grabs her opponent and does three frankensteiners in a row.
Combos from just about all of her normals.
Vice's main combo DM.
MAX version does five frankensteiners and more damage.
Dying Fetus:qcfx2+B/D
Anti-air version of qcfx2+P that only hits airborne opponents.
In most cases, jumping in on Vice usually isn't an issue, but because she has this DM she can be a major threat and is more likely to keep her opponents grounded and close, which allows for more chances to catch them with her grounded options and command grabs.
MAX version does more hits and damage.
ADV/EX Strats
Combos
General Notes:
In any metered combo, you can replace hcbx2+K with hcbx2+BD for more damage if you have the resources.
Meterless
Low
cr.B×N, qcb+A > qcf+P
cr.B, cl.B, hcb,f+P
Mid/Jump-In
(j.X), cl.D, hcb,f+P
cl.D, f+A, hcf+K
Standing combo into hcf+K, switches sides.
cl.D, f+A, qcb+C > qcf+P
With Meter
Low
cr.B, cl.B, hcbx2+K
You can do this as cr.B, hcb,f+B, hcb+K for an easier cancel.
Mid/Jump-In
(j.X), cl.D, hcbx2+K
Quick Dodge
f+A, AB, A/B/C/D, hcf+B
f+A, AB, A/B/C/D, qcb+C > qcf+P
Quick dodge combos from overhead.
With Quick MAX
Low
cr.B, cr.A, ABC, cl.D, hcbx2+K
For cl.D to connect, you need to do a microwalk after the Quick MAX activation. Easy to hit-confirm thanks to cl.D being two hits.
Quick Dodge
cr.B, cr.A, ABC, cl.D(1), AB, A/B/C/D, hcbx2+K
Similar to previous combo, you need a microwalk after quick max. Does more damage
To make the dodge attack -> hcbx2+K cancel easier, after AB you can do hcb+A/B/C/D for the dodge attack then do hcb+K to cancel into the super.
