The King of Fighters 2002 UM/Heidern

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Movelist

Throws

Lead Belcher - close, Bk.gif / Fd.gif + C.gif

Backstabbing - close, Bk.gif / Fd.gif + D.gif

Critical Drive - close in air, Bk.gif / Dn.gif / Fd.gif + C.gif / D.gif

Command Move

Shooter Narnangel - Bk.gif / Fd.gif + B.gif

Special Moves

Cross Cutter - charge Bk.gif ~ Fd.gif + A.gif / C.gif

Moon Slasher - charge Dn.gif ~ Up.gif + A.gif / C.gif

Storm Bringer - close, Hcb.gif + A.gif / C.gif

Killing Bringer - Hcb.gif + B.gif / D.gif

Desperation Moves

Final Bringer - Qcf.gifQcf.gif + A.gif / C.gif

Heidern End - Qcb.gifDb.gifQcf.gif + B.gif / D.gif

Super Desperation Moves

Final Bringer - Qcf.gifQcf.gif + A.gifC.gif

Heidern End - Qcb.gifDb.gifQcf.gif + B.gifD.gif

Hidden Super Desperation Move

Caliburn - Qcf.gifQcf.gif + B.gifD.gif

Quick Starter Combo Reference

Notation

0 Bar

Anywhere

cr.A×1~2, d~u+A = 17%

1 Bar

Anywhere

(jump-in), cl.C, f+B(1), qcb,hcf+K = 36%

3 Bar

Anywhere

(jump-in), cl.C, f+B(1), qcb,hcf+BD = 49%

Normals

Close

  • cl.A/B/C/D are cancel-able.
  • cl.A is a straight chop that can chain into itself, cr. A, cl.B & cr. B
  • cl. B is a kick that is aimed around the opponent's pelvis area and can chain into cr. B.
  • cl. C is a two hit vertical chop where the 2nd hit can be cancelled easily into his F+B command normal attack. Its also useful to hit opponents trying to jump over Heidern.
  • cl. D is single hit knee attack that can cancel into his F+B command normal


Stand

  • Far A is cancel-able & is good for stopping incoming hops. It whiffs on crouching opponents.
  • Far B is a great round kick aimed at the opponent's mid-section. Useful to use as a poke at mid-range.
  • Far C has great reach to be used preemptively stop incoming hops or as a far poke
  • Far D is a far ranged but slow, spinning side kick that is aimed at the opponent's head. It isn't whiff cancel-able, so be careful using it in neutral


Crouch

  • cr.A/C/D are cancel-able
  • cr.A is a very fast chop that has good horizontal range and can combo into his charge d~u+P special move. It can chain into itself, stand A & cr. B.
  • Crouch B hits low, but is not cancel-able. It has great horizontal range & comes out at a decent speed to be used a low poke but it isn't a combo tool.
  • Crouch C is a fast swinging horizontal chop that is whiff cancel-able, but has less horizontal range than cr. A.
  • Crouch D is a sweep that has enormous range & is whiff cancel-able too.


Jump

  • Neutral j.A is a elbow that hits below his arm
  • j.A is a downward angled chop that is active for a good amount of time
  • Neutral j.B is a quick kick that swings up in front of Heidern
  • j.B is a aerial side kick that has good horizontal range similar to his far B
  • j.C is a two handed chop that can easily cross-up standing & crouching opponents, is good to use as a combo starter into cl.C or cl.D & can be used as an instant overhead on medium and taller crouchers.
  • Neutral j.D is a kick that swings down in front of Heidern. Can be used to hit opponents in advance in front of Heidern that has finished rolling near him
  • j.D is a diagonally aimed kick that is great to start combos & can cross-up as well. Hop D can be used as an instant overhead on medium and taller crouchers, slower than j.C but with more reach so better to jump away with.


Blowback Attack

  • Stand CD is a very slow finger point that is aimed diagonally above and in front of Heidern's head
  • Jump CD is a double swinging chop (that resembles a crescent moon) that hits in-front of Heidern

Throws

Lead Belcher - (b/f + C) close

  • Heidern grabs the opponent, slams them to the ground, then chops them. The opponent lands & wakes up near Heidern at a horizontal space where the tip of where his far B (LK) hits.
  • Hard knockdown


Backstabbing - (b/f + D) close

  • Heidern quickly crawls behind the opponent to stab them in the back. The opponent lands 3/4ths screen distance away.
  • Soft knockdown


Critical Drive - (b/d/f + C) close in air

  • Heidern grabs the opponent by stabbing them with his hand, then body slams them into the ground on the opposite side. The distance the opponent lands and wakes up at is around the same distance as his Backstabbing normal throw, 3/4ths screen distance away.
  • Hard knockdown

Command Move

Shooter Narnangel [Stenier Gale] - b/f + B

  • Heidern performs a 2 Hit roundhouse kick. If canceled into from cl. C or cl. D, the first hit can easily cancel into his desperation moves.
  • Hits overhead, loses overhead property if canceled from cl. C or cl. D

Special Moves

Cross Cutter - (Charge b~f + A/C)

  • Heidern crosses his hands sending out two crescents of energy
  • Hits mid allowing it to be block crouching or standing
  • Both versions cause soft knockdown on hit
  • The projectile will completely whiff on crouching smaller characters like Bao, Chin, and Choi
  • A version is slower to start and moves across the screen at a slower pace
  • During A version Heidern recovers fast enough at 3/4 screen to begin following the projectile toward the opponent
  • A version becomes safe on block about 1.5 characters away, but is negative on block point blank
  • C version travels faster across the screen
  • C version only becomes safe on block at 1/2 screen
  • Great move for Heidern to control space with and plan his attack. The hitbox of the move is certainly not as big as the projectile looks as it can be jumped over and even hopped if timed right.

Moon Slasher - (Charge d~u + A/C)

  • General Heidern cuts his hand through the air creating a crescent of energy around himself
  • Hits mid allowing it to be blocked high or low
  • Both versions cause soft knockdown
  • Does not have any start-up invincibility
  • C version outputs more damage and starts-up faster, while the A version does less damage but has a bit less recovery

Neck Rolling - (Charge d~u + B/D)

  • Heidern slowly flips towards the opponent, grabs them, then swings horizontally around their neck like a helicopter propeller.
  • The opponent lands at the other end of the screen
  • Does not have any invincibility. Heidern can be easily attacked out of this move.
  • Counts as a moving command throw that cannot be blocked. He can throw only grounded opponents, and opponents while they are rolling. He cannot throw jumping opponents.

Storm Bringer - (hcb + A/C close)

  • Heidern grabs the opponents mid-section then removes the energy from them. The opponent lands 3/4ths screen distance away from Heidern.
  • Counts as a delayed command throw. Has no invincibility.
  • Can be mashed out of. The Heidern player can counter act that by mashing buttons as well to get the maximum amount of damage.
  • Hard knockdown

Killing Bringer - (hcb + B/D)

  • Heidern poses then counters the opponent's attack. The impales the opponent with his hand to steal life from them.
  • Heidern can only counter standing or jumping attacks that hit in front or around of his hand during the pose animation. He cannot counter attacks that hit above or around his head, and he cannot counter low attacks.
  • Heidern can gain back around 50 damage points, while the inflicting around 110 damage to the opponent if both players do not mash any buttons or if they mash buttons together. If the Heidern player mashes buttons and the opponent does not mash, Heidern receives 90 damage, and the opponent loses around 160 damage.
  • This counter has rather slow start-up but is active for a considerable amount of time.

Desperation Moves

Final Bringer - (qcf x 2 + A/C)

  • This is a stronger version of his Neck Roller special move. Unlike the special move version, this DM can be blocked but can hit jumping opponents.
  • If blocked, Heidern can be punished while he is landing.
  • Heidern gains around 150 damage while the opponent loses around 180 damage.

Heidern End - (qcb, hcf + B/D)

  • Heidern rushes slightly towards the opponent then stabs them with his hand. A second later, the opponent is blasted away then lands at the corner of the screen.
  • The light kick version travels 1/4th screen distance while the heavy kick version travels close to a half screen distance.
  • Heidern can be attacked out of his move before he reaches the opponent. It is also unsafe if blocked, and has long recovery if whiffed.

Super Desperation Moves

Final Bringer - (qcf x 2 + A+C)

  • A stronger version of the DM version.
  • Heidern gains around around 140 damage, while the opponent loses 320 damage.
  • Hard knockdown

Heidern End - (qcb, hcf + B+D)

  • A much stronger version of the DM version.
  • Has the same horizontal distance as the light kick version of the DM version.
  • Inflicts around 330 damage
  • Hard knockdown

Hidden Super Desperation Move

Caliburn - qcf x 2 + BD

  • This HSDM has two versions depending on the distance away from the opponent.
  • Far version: Heidern performs the close C (heavy punch) animation to unleash a high wave of energy towards the opponent. On hit, it can inflict around 190-200 damage depending on the distance. If blocked, the chip damage can be around 100 damage. The opponent can roll but they will get hit at the end of their roll. The opponent can only Guard Cancel Roll during the last hit of the energy wave.
  • Close version: This is an UNBLOCKABLE ATTACK. Heidern picks the opponent up (with the animation of close heavy punch) then blasts the opponent away dealing 350 damage. Causes a hard knockdown

Combos

For the corner loop, you can use always replace the first d~u+A by a d~u+C for a harder cancel and a bit more damage.

You can also use cl.C, f+B(2), BC run, cr.A instead of cl.C(2), BC run, cl.C(2) for a starter but the first slasher then has to be d~u+A and it's just a much harder run for 2% more.


0 Stock

Anywhere

 ★ cr.A×1~2, d~u+A (demo)

Your basic meterless conversion, you need to be point blank against most crouchers. You can use d~u+C for more damage but it has much less range and also just doesn't work on standing Mai on top of being inconsistent on a lot of crouchers. Default to d~u+A on hit, and on block stop at cr.A or add a 3rd one before stopping. 17%.
  • cl.C, f+B
No knockdown and less damage than the previous but it has some worth in being easier and that it looks kinda punishable but is actually safe on hit and block against everything but Yashiro's qcfx2+A/AC so you can bait and punish a reversal. That said, cl.C's lackluster range, reach, speed and overall utility outside of meter conversions heavily limits this combo's usage. f+B isn't a true blockstring after cl.C so the opponent could mash a reversal in between, but cl.C alone is safe so you can block that reversal if you read it and stop. 16%
  • cl.C, f+B(1), d~u+C (demo)
Only point blank. Pretty hard but good string. You need to practice to find how early you can let go f+B and start charging down. This is a good option since even if you miss, you are very safe as said above. That said, cl.C's lackluster range, reach, speed and overall utility outside of meter conversions heavily limits this combo's usage and it's pretty inconsistent on Bao and these characters except the st.Kyo-tier. 25%


1 Stock

Anywhere

 ★ cl.C, f+B(1), qcb,hcf+K (demo)

Best 1 bar conversion. Always use this unless you need the life gain from the corner route. 36%

Corner

  • cl.C, f+B(1), qcfx2+P
Less damage than the previous version but you get 14% health back so worth considering if you are in the corner. Won't work on crouchers except for Chang, Daimon, Maxima, Seth, Whip, Xiangfei, Choi, regular Takuma, Chin. 30%


2 Stocks

Anywhere

  • cl.C, f+B(1), d~u+C (SC) qcb hcf+K (demo)
Best damage for 2 bar midscreen but it's hard. You not only need to find the right timing to charge down but also then buffer the super so d~qcb,ub+C (SC) qcf+K. 48%

 ★ cr.Ax1~2, d~u+A (SC) qcb hcf+K

Less damaging but much more reliable and consistent alternative to the previous combo, default to this. Shortcut the super cancel as d~qcb,ub+A (SC) qcf+K. 40%

 ★ cl.C(2), BC run, cl.C(2), f+B(2), qcb,hcf+B

If you don't know what to go for with 1 bar after a cl.C midscreen, this is the answer. On the lower end for damage so the 1 bar is preferred but if you need it, it's pretty easy and very consistent which as a Heidern player you'll come to appreciate. 40%.
  • cl.C, f+B(1), BC run, cl.C(2), f+B(2), qcb,hcf+B
Optimized version of the previous route. Despite a better confirm it's fairly inconsistent and the damage gain is very small, the previous one is preferred. 42%
  • cl.C, f+B(2), BC walk, far C, qcb,hcf+B (demo)
A bit more though still pretty average damage. It gets a pass for not requiring a max run, making it on the easier end. Walk a tiny bit before pressing far C. far C will whiff on all crouchers except for Chang, Daimon, Maxima, Ramon, Seth, Whip, Xiangfei. 44%

Corner

  • cl.C, f+B(1), d~u+C (SC) qcfx2+P (demo)
Best non-max damage for 2 bar corner but it's hard. You not only need to find the right timing to charge down but also then buffer the super so d~qcf,uf+C (SC) qcf+P. Not much damage but 14% health gained so worth a mention. 42%
  • cr.Ax1~2, d~u+A (SC) qcfx2+P
Less damaging but much more reliable and consistent alternative to the previous combo. Shortcut the super cancel as d~qcf,uf+A (SC) qcf+P. 33%
  • cl.C(2), BC run, cl.C(2), f+B(1), qcfx2+P
The easy alternative if the loop below isn't your forte. Not much damage, kind of a waste of meter, but 14% health gained so worth a mention. Won't work on crouchers except for Chang, Daimon, Maxima, Whip, Xiangfei, Chin. 33%

 ★ cl.C(2), BC run, cl.C(2), d~u+A, b~f+A, [d~u+C, (C)b~f+A, b~f+A]x2, (d~u+A (SC)) qcfx2+P (demo)

Excellent damage for a fairly hard combo, the practice will be worth it. This route doesn't work on Yuri, Kasumi, Angel and Yamazaki, changing the second d~u+C to d~u+A is enough for Yamazaki. Does 67% without the super cancel and 71% with it. d~u+A (SC) demo.
  • cl.C(2), BC run, cl.C(2), d~u+A, b~f+A, d~u+C, (C)b~f+A, b~f+A, d~u+C, (C)b~f+A, delay qcb,hcf+K (demo)
You have to delay the super so the opponent falls on it, this does more than not doing the super cancel on the previous one but the health gain favors that one. This route doesn't work on Yuri, Kasumi, Angel and Yamazaki, changing the second d~u+C to d~u+A is enough for Yamazaki. 69%
  • cl.C(2), BC run, cl.C(2), d~u+A, (C) b~f+A, d~u+C, (C) b~f+A, d~u+C, (C) b~f+A, b~f+A, (d~u+A, (SC)) qcfx2+P
The route you have to use against Kasumi and Angel. For Kasumi, you only have to slightly delay one of the d~u+C but you need to delay both for Angel and it's an annoyingly specific timing. I recommend removing the last b~f+A to make it more consistent on Angel. Without the last b~f+A, if you then delay the last d~u+A or skip it, it'll work on Yuri too. The full route does 68%, without the last b~f+A it does 64%


3 Stocks

  • cl.C, f+B(1), qcb,hcf+BD
Easy way to just spend the meter on some damage. 49%

 ★ cl.C(2), BC run, cl.C(2), f+B(2), qcb,hcf+BD

If you don't know what to go for midscreen, this is the answer. On the lower end for damage so the 1 bar is preferred but if you need it, it's pretty easy and very consistent which as a Heidern player you'll come to appreciate. 53%.
  • cl.C, f+B(1), BC run, cl.C(2), f+B(2), qcb,hcf+BD
Optimized version of the previous route. Despite a better confirm it's fairly inconsistent and the damage gain is very small, the previous one is preferred. 55%

Corner

  • cl.C, f+B(1), qcfx2+AC
Just good enough to spend the meter and get 14% health back. Won't work on crouchers except for Chang, Daimon, Maxima, Whip, Xiangfei, Chin. 47%
  • cl.C(2), BC run, cl.C(2), f+B(1), qcfx2+AC
The easy alternative if the loop below isn't your forte. Not much damage, kind of a waste of meter, but 14% health gained so worth a mention. Won't work on crouchers except for Chang, Daimon, Maxima, Whip, Xiangfei, Chin. 49%
  • cl.C(2), BC run, cl.C(2), d~u+A, b~f+A, [d~u+C, (C)b~f+A, b~f+A]x3, qcfx2+AC
Don't do this, use the next one. 80%

 ★ cl.C(2), BC run, cl.C(2), d~u+A, b~f+A, [d~u+C, (C)b~f+A, b~f+A]x2, (d~u+A (SC)) qcfx2+AC (demo)

Excellent damage for a fairly hard combo, the practice will be worth it. This route doesn't work on Yuri, Kasumi, Angel, and Yamazaki, changing the second d~u+C to d~u+A is enough to fix it for Yamazaki. Does 84% without the super cancel and 88% with it.
  • cl.C(2), BC run, cl.C(2), d~u+A, b~f+A, d~u+C, (C)b~f+A, b~f+A, d~u+C, (C)b~f+A, delay qcfx2+BD or qcb,hcf+BD (demo)
You have to delay the super so the opponent falls on it, this does more than not doing the super cancel on the previous one but the health gain favors that one. This route doesn't work on Yuri, Kasumi, Angel, and Yamazaki, changing the second d~u+C to d~u+A is enough to fix it for Yamazaki. 81%
  • cl.C(2), BC run, cl.C(2), d~u+A, (C) b~f+A, d~u+C, (C) b~f+A, d~u+C, (C) b~f+A, b~f+A, (d~u+A, (SC)) qcfx2+AC (demo)
The route you have to use against Kasumi and Angel. For Kasumi, you only have to slightly delay one of the d~u+C but you need to delay both for Angel and it's an annoyingly specific timing. I recommend removing the last b~f+A to make it more consistent on Angel. Without the last b~f+A, if you then delay the last d~u+A or skip it, it'll work on Yuri too. The full route does 86%, without the last b~f+A it does 81%


4 Stocks

  • cl.C, f+B(1), d~u+C (SC) qcb,hcf+BD
Looks cool but definitely not worth the meter for how hard it is and the better options. 60%


5 Stocks

  • cl.C(2), BC run, cl.C(2), d~u+A, b~f+A, [d~u+C, (C)b~f+A, b~f+A]x3, qcfx2+AC
All in, worth it if you have the meter to spend. 97%

Videos

Heidern Combos by Franck Frost
Heidern - Specific Combos by Franck Frost
Nikolai-保力達 (Heidern Best Rounds)
Nikolai-保力達 (Heidern Best Rounds 2)
Heidern Master Class

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