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Started by nilcam, December 06, 2011, 06:30:06 AM

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t3h mAsTarOth...!

It's useless... Never use the 1bar version... EX version is tricky to use... It doesn't have that much range... Only good for mid range anti air and going through some FBs...
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Sir Octopus (Saiki)

In all honesty I have not tried to use it, seeing as it has no special properties, but, I haven't actually given it the time to have a good look at it.

PS: 20% drive and 60% of a stock leads to 800 DMG and stun

bigvador

no good but i think it has guard point like his EX

Diavle

Experimented some more with it yesterday and yeah, there doesn't seem to be a single thing useful about it. No guard point, no invincibility and short range. His only useless move imo.

Quote from: t3h mAsTarOth...! on December 20, 2012, 08:02:56 PM
It's useless... Never use the 1bar version... EX version is tricky to use... It doesn't have that much range... Only good for mid range anti air and going through some FBs...

Nothing tricky about it. Its fast and it has invincbility/guard point, such a move is always a blessing. The fact that you can delay it is a nice bonus.

Quote from: bigvador on December 21, 2012, 04:42:03 AM
no good but i think it has guard point like his EX

I saw it in a vid and tried to replicate it to no success, checked back on the vid and the guy was using the PC dump for his vid. The guard point was there but taken out in the console version it seems. No big loss though, EX Hammer does the same thing and also costs one bar.

bigvador

using his valcan punches as a anti air really pays off

Sir Octopus (Saiki)

To whoever asked one day if Ralf's df.A connected after his cl.D. Yes, it does connect. Just delay your df.A a bit so it comes out at the ending cancelable frames (not the last frame or it will wiff). This allows for more damaging combos and serves as a late confirm as well as an antiair in case your cl.D is jumped over.

Hope this information helps. For an example, you can look up "Sir octopus CMV II" and have a loot at a couple of Ralf combos.

bigvador

sounds like 2 much work... but then u wont b able 2 link cr.C after burning hammer... am i correct

Sir Octopus (Saiki)

I'm assuming it will not. But the again, this to optimize HD combo damage, any cl.C will scale damage quite a lot, hence why cl.D into df.A is your best option and just s.C into hammer after it, no cl.C is the key in high damage combos, again, only in HD, outside of that, cl.C into hammer into cl.C, df.A, in EX hammer is by far your best omtion on driveless or 1 drive combos.

bigvador

i do see where ur comin from when using it 2 go into HD but i believe cl.D comes out slower then cl.C making it harder 2 pull of also be as close as possible iz another factor

Sir Octopus (Saiki)

This "good" to know info, not "need" to know. Just there when you think you can use it but not making it a priority.

t3h mAsTarOth...!

Tried it out... Honestly i like keeping things simple... Focusing more on gameplay... As long as i'm doing solid combos that are efficient and practical with consistency, i'm happy... Combos that are too complicated tend to be dropped more often...
KOFXIII - Raiden, Billy, Mai, Karate, Kim, Ralf, Ryo, Robert

SC 1-5 - Astaroth

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bigvador

a good discovery non the less

TrulyAmiracle

So what are the current best 1 bar 1 drive corner combos?

Pretty sure that mine are really outdated..
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Sir Octopus (Saiki)

3/4 of the screen, almost half. Watch Sir Octopus cmv II on youtube. You'll get to see 1D1S and 2D2S new combos there. about 83% with 1stock and 25% drive.

t3h mAsTarOth...!

GREAT combo video man... OMG those Ralf combos... Specially the 1 bar 1 drive one... Looks like it might actually be a viable combo in match just like the Joe stun combo... and the 2 bar HD kill combo is pretty freaking awesome as well...
KOFXIII - Raiden, Billy, Mai, Karate, Kim, Ralf, Ryo, Robert

SC 1-5 - Astaroth

SaMsTarOth t3h mAsTarOth of AsTarOth...!