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@Mr Bakaboy: I would like to continue our discussion but it seems it wont be appropriate here, anyways it was nice and I dont think it can go much further than this; I agree with most of what you said.

SBO SUCKS!! it seems they are not sticking to their "only arcade games rule" and they are including shitty games (IMO) and excluding KoF. I liked SBO until last year.



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General Discussion / Re: Tier lists and Character Discussion Thread
« on: July 26, 2012, 05:00:19 PM »
Really, I only thought about most of this stuff after EVO, when I realized that my Robert wasn't doing much but being very annoying at the back of my team.

Yeah' maybe now people could see Robert differently; he needs to be tested more I think.

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I wouldn't say the quality of fighting games was better in the past. I would say the business model of today is to lure people who play rpg's and other games that always see constant results with the more time spent in game and to have a path laid out for them on how to improve always there. FG's in the past never really had that and there was always a difference between people who naturally have skills in fighters (I.e. hand eye coordination) and people who don't no matter how long they played. Now the line is skewed so the public can feel there is a so called reason to play.

Compared to older games FG's now get insanely more updates and companies are fixing the bugs that in the past we would just have to deal with. Personally though I prefer the older titles cause to me the companies caused the titles now to have less paths to how you want to play that game. There is now a specfic way to play FG's and to me it's disappointing that the old style of playing, of making a style that is your very own, is obselete.

I am not talking about fighting games in general I am only talking about capcom.  Capcoms quality in their games is gone; I brought few examples of comparison to their titles in my previous reply.

About the natural skill and picking up the game. Some people really do have natural skill but some people are hard workers who obtained their skill by hard work; it just needs time. Making a style of your own is still there, in KoF XIII, so hopefully more games will go the same direction that KoF XIII did.

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Sometimes it is a matter of taste. I know most of you will shoot me for saying this but I love KOF MI RA so much. Me and my friends played it for more than a year before my PS2 decided not to start again. I would really love to see a PSN port. I don't like recent Capcom games as well but there are people out there who love them including SFxT and nothing that you guys say will change that. I am just happy that FGs are popular again and whatever the future brings it is welcomed.

Nothing to dispute here bru. People can like whatever they want but the fact is that capcom's games were much better in quality than now; compare previous SFighters with SSFIV, Marvel2 and marvel3, look at CvS2 how good that game was, there is no game that capcom has now that could compare in quality to CvS2 now; heck even compare previous resident evils with the current ones. There is just no comparison.

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General Discussion / Re: Tier lists and Character Discussion Thread
« on: July 26, 2012, 02:39:05 AM »

AirLancer' thanks for your contribution. It's really useful.

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So what if Capcom is bigger?  That's no excuse for SNKP to have the same problems year round. 

I don't really believe too hard in being a fan of a company because all companies are capable of great games just as much as they're capable of shitting the bed.  Everything should be looked at a game to game basis.  Otherwise, Capcom was never good and SNK and SNKP has WAY more bad than good.

What's important are the singular games.  People always lose sight of that.

Yes' your right but being a fan of a company that means your giving it your support and you are willing to make it bigger by buying their products so the company can give you more and better products. If a company is bigger it has more liquidity and resources to make better stuff not make shitty stuff; that being said, focusing on singular games is more important for us as consumers.

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Yeah, and you know what happens if they made CvS3?  They rerelease CvS2, so even if CvS3 is shit, guess what?  You can now play CvS2 without having to jump through ten hoops.

Who gives a shit if they ruin CvS3 or not?  The notion that one game sucking ruins a franchise's memory is completely fucking stupid and is childish.  SNKP can do whatever they want while CvS3 is being made, nothing's saying they have to do a SvC as well, or that they can't use different development teams.  If nothing else, SNKP gets more money and exposure out the deal, and the players get a rerelease of CvS2.

And besides, you want to throw track records into this, how about SNK and SNKP's?    It takes them three really meh games just to make one good one.  The only time that changed was the Ash Saga where we got XI and XIII, but in between was the most god awful game to ever call itself KOF.  They have the shittiest netcode of nearly every FG out in existence right now as well, and are just as prone to On-Disc DLC as the next company.

I'm not a fan of Capcom as much as the next person, but let's not fucking act like SNK and SNKP are the pinnacle of FG development right now.

Who said that "if" CvS3 sucked it will ruin the whole franchise?! CvS2 is a great and it'll stay like that. 3rd strike is the second best for me even though SSFiV is shit compared to it and btw I didnt praise SNK or SNKP. I am salty because Crapcom here used to make one of the best franchises out there and in an over night decided ohh well why make quality while our shit just sells out there. I was a fan of capcom until they fucked up shit; just look at there previous games and compare them with their recent ones and whats their recent fighting game they made? SFxT! Besides capcom is way bigger company than SNK just keep that in mind.


Is there even any incentive for SNKP to allow Capcom to re-release cvs2 or do a cvs3?
Yeah' why wont they. They will get exposure and revenue from it.

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I'm not really looking forward to a CVS3. There's a chance Capcom won't fuck it up and enforce comeback mechanics, gems, and on-disc DLC but that's pretty slim. The only good that could come of that would be an SVC2 that hopefully won't be broken as fuck.

I respect CVS2 but the negative edge window really took me out of that game.

There's a chance ANY game can be completely fucked up like that.  KOFXIII also has On-Disc DLC, and the whole debate on extra meter + HD being a comeback factor.

If everyone should be afraid of any game being fucked up if made, then not a single game should come out ever again.

Thats true but Crapcom ruined every title they have, not just their fighting games. Their development quality is shit compared to their previous titles and compared to other companies. So chances are that they will ruin CvS3 as they did with all of their titles.

For me I'd prefer a next KoF or a dream match for the next game. Now that they have this cast they can add to it and add more details in the game (details which have been in KoF 98). Diverting from KoF would be hard right now for SNK.

I'll add you Eripio but I doubt that I'll have a good connection with you. The thing is people who are close to me, I dont connect very well with them. I have constant delay.

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Unfortunately' Saitsue's prediction was right. "If" there will be an announcement from SNK it would come in TGS; oooh bru, CvS3 is just a dream, it's one of my wishes and I dont think it'll happen. If cacpom will re-release CvS2 they would ruin it as they did with 3rd Strike (arcade perfect my ass!!!) and they will try to milk us real good. I think CvS2 re-release and CvS3 are out of the question.

Note: Capcom's quality just turned to shit right now. "If" they make CvS3 lets just hope they will make it a solid, competitive game and one of the important things for me is that they make it a 2d game not 2.5D (that I can dream of I know it just wont happen, bru).

Freaking Crapcom!!!

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Agreed Eripio. I am hoping that more "pro" Fighting gamers non KoF players pick up the game and really play it not just go though it or play it for the money.

Tyrant are you European m8? If yes add me on PSN: Eripio69

Ahh sorry bru, I am from the Middle East (Bahrain) Unfortunately I wont be able to play KoF with you bru.

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Agreed Eripio. I am hoping that more "pro" Fighting gamers non KoF players pick up the game and really play it not just go though it or play it for the money.

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General Discussion / Re: Tier lists and Character Discussion Thread
« on: July 24, 2012, 07:29:17 PM »

Thanks for the break down David. I agree with Diavle here though. Yes' Robert is lacking in many ways but if they made him safe in most of his specials he'll be broken. The only thing that needs correction and thats "if" it needs correction is that he builds his opponent's meter quite alot. Thats my opinion atleast.

P.S. his hit confirm (cr.b, st. a or cr.a into frw.b) Is really good IMO you can start HD quite easily with that.

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General Discussion / Re: Tier lists and Character Discussion Thread
« on: July 23, 2012, 09:38:28 PM »

David' I also dont think that Robert sucks. He can confirm his hit, he has a command grab, he has an anti air, good wake up, good normals, good air CD, has a cross-up and activates HD easily.

Maybe I am missing something here, I mean you played him alot could you explain please why you think that robert sucks?

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It's been awfully slow here guys :(.

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Podcast / Re: Drive Cancel Radio Episode 11: EVO 2012 recap
« on: July 18, 2012, 06:18:31 AM »

Thanks for the great podcast guys and please keep it up.

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