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Ex Kyo / Re: Kyo Kusanagi (NESTS)
« on: December 03, 2011, 05:47:59 PM »
yeah the loss of hikigane sucks... but they probably chose the running grab over it for a reason.
btw welcome to DC
btw welcome to DC
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Kyo Kusanagi / Re: Kyo Kusanagi
« on: December 02, 2011, 10:15:20 PM »
isn't the only thing that really changed about kyo for combos the addition of mid-screen qcf+k, and the new being able to juggle another qcf k after? ( and new HD combos with addition of 2 bar Neo max)
could someone set up the meter less combos kind of like this in the wiki:
( under all hitconfirms into down forward d) after the part where they put hcb k, write if close enough for both hits
to connect qcf d into hcb d
and also add for meter less corner combo: ( hit confirm into df. d) qcf d, rpd b, qcf b, rpd b, dp a
could someone set up the meter less combos kind of like this in the wiki:
( under all hitconfirms into down forward d) after the part where they put hcb k, write if close enough for both hits
to connect qcf d into hcb d
and also add for meter less corner combo: ( hit confirm into df. d) qcf d, rpd b, qcf b, rpd b, dp a
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General Discussion / Re: The King of Fighters XIII Video Thread
« on: December 02, 2011, 10:12:29 PM »
will somebody add them to there respective character forums? like how you did it with 2002
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General Discussion / Re: KOF XIII 6th General Thread: Console Released edition
« on: November 29, 2011, 10:48:37 PM »
just got my copy 
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Kyo Kusanagi / Re: Kyo Kusanagi
« on: November 29, 2011, 10:43:45 PM »
i watched his kyo and i think i know poongko's HD combo
( combo to confirm Df. d) HD df. d, qcf d, rpd b, qcb hcf p, qcf a, rpd b, dp p DC qcf d, hcb k max cancel qcf x2 ac
( combo to confirm Df. d) HD df. d, qcf d, rpd b, qcb hcf p, qcf a, rpd b, dp p DC qcf d, hcb k max cancel qcf x2 ac
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Shen Woo / Re: Shen Woo
« on: November 29, 2011, 03:02:09 AM »also @ shinsyn compared to shen's charge time in kof 2003 the punch is a lot faster and while you can easily roll out of it, and saying that after charging the move for that long it should guard break. isn't the case for a lot of characters in other fighting games with similar moves. plenty have moves that could be charged longer and the opponent has the to do something similar to a roll and block at the same time.
just so you don't get me wrong i'm not a fan of the nerf.
It's cool. I'm sure most of us aren't a fan of this nerf but it's still holds a great discussion for the character.
The 2003's version of the charge punch was way too long if you ask me. If the user was crazy enough to hold that full charge to attempt a guard break, the user be punished. Most charge moves that are in fighting games that gives you the option to hold the attack, and it's a physical attack (Mind you, there aren't many), it guard crushes.
Projectiles (more common moves that can be fully charged in fighters) do not fall under the category of guard crushing, on the exception of 2 that I know of; Ryu's Denjin Hadouken, and Yuri's Alternate Fireball (Similar to Ryu's Denjin Hakoukenin) in 2003 but in these cases, those projectiles just say guarding is irrelevant. In the end, it does stun which in a sense leave you as/if not more vulnerable after being hit with it.
[Yes, I just compared DM's to a Super, reason being is that the moves that Guard Crush on contact with charge in these games are DM's, Shen's DM does not have the Charge-Guard Break option so his Super move does.]
I can understand this nerf being something done for the "Interest of Fairness" for those who can't avoid and punish it, but it's an unnecessary nerf IMO since you have various options to avoid the situation of being guard crushed by it. But if it's true that there was an unavoidable set up for it, they could do what someone noted earlier, have it set to get rid of 75% of the guard gauge.
Well, this is how the game was made, and there's no changing it so I really don't have much of a choice, but to deal with it though.
actually i was refering to tekken with the point about charging moves. because over the years there have been plenty of moves that you can charge ( although they tend to be pretty quick ) that don't hit through.
also you can block sean's tackle in 3s and you execute the move by holding the move for the grab to come out.
and i also wanted to give you a welcome to DC
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Shen Woo / Re: Shen Woo
« on: November 28, 2011, 11:44:41 PM »I'd guess that toning down the guard crush to just 50% is to prevent it from being a punish to recovery rolling his sweep in the corner. At least, I'm pretty sure there was a video of corner cr.D, qcf+(C), CABC, (MC) Neomax basically killing if you recovery roll the sweep and get guard crushed. I don't think anyone else had a setup where a recovery roll would HAVE to be followed by a reversal or else give a free combo, and if the opponent didn't recovery roll, Shen could still cancel the punch and get some oki pressure on.
there was also that time where fixel took out bbz's raiden (full health) with corner it on wake-up only with that type of mixup.
also @ shinsyn compared to shen's charge time in kof 2003 the punch is a lot faster and while you can easily roll out of it, and saying that after charging the move for that long it should guard break. isn't the case for a lot of characters in other fighting games with similar moves. plenty have moves that could be charged longer and the opponent has the to do something similar to a roll and block at the same time.
just so you don't get me wrong i'm not a fan of the nerf.
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General Discussion / Re: The King of Fighters XIII Video Thread
« on: November 28, 2011, 10:27:31 PM »55
Shen Woo / Re: Shen Woo
« on: November 28, 2011, 10:12:45 PM »I'm really enjoying Shen in this game, he's a good character in my book even with his limitations which aren't that limited. The only thing I don't like is that his Punch charged at Max, doesn't crush guard anymore, it just doesn't make sense and kinda kills the whole point of charging it all the way.
Was there a specific reason behind that nerf because it was punishable if someone timed a roll correctly right?
yeah after the change there really isn't any point in charging it since by the time you get their guard low enough to
crushing they're probably going to no to escape.
but on the flip side don't you think it's a little unfair that if you mess up and block it on accident that you eat a super.
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General Discussion / Re: KOF XIII 6th General Thread: Console Released edition
« on: November 28, 2011, 10:07:52 PM »
that bug with iori was pretty shocking
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General Discussion / Re: KOF XIII 6th General Thread: Console Released edition
« on: November 27, 2011, 11:30:16 PM »
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General Fighting Game Discussion / Re: Skull Girls
« on: November 27, 2011, 10:23:24 PM »
i don't think his post made sense to him either.
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Iori Yagami (Claw) / Re: Iori Yagami (Claws)
« on: November 27, 2011, 09:12:21 PM »The only time I've been able to get the normal command grab off is rolling in on a slow move or drive cancelling from the qcb + k slash.
Thanks to everyone for the advice. The Iori crossup seems to be working wonders.
I think my problem is mostly nerves. I usually forget my combos when I do get a hit so I'm losing about 90% of my damage potential. That sounds like something I just need practice for though.
yeah if you just practice more you'll start to gain confidence, because you won't have to worry about messing up if you've done it consistently before.
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General Discussion / Re: KOF XIII 6th General Thread: Console Released edition
« on: November 27, 2011, 08:18:44 PM »
i was watching the archive of the poongko stream and noticed it there but i wanted to see how good he was.