guys i feel lag with even ssf4 on a 70mb dl sp connection playing other people in the netherlands who also have at least 30 to 40mb dl sp that live less than 100 miles away from me. going by what ive read so far, the game might be unplayable for me without a patch. im like super lag sensetive, i go crazy over 2 frames of difference just by using different tv set ups. if what people are saying is true, people need to bitch and moan all they can to snkp. as good as the ssf4 netcode is (way better than 3soe ggpo bs) it still sucked. if 13 isn't even on par with 4's, it straight up sucks ass, fact. i love snk and kof more than anybody, but people should not praise fuck ups no matter what. so far from what im reading, it seems they really fucked up big time. in the netcode department that is (and no Yamazaki, tsk tsk).