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Andy Bogard (Console)

Started by nilcam, December 06, 2011, 05:13:53 AM

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Matt Alder

I've been messing around with Andy's far C. it's a really strong poke, but what most don't know is that you can start a full combo without activating HD mode with it. Far  ;c,  ;db ;fd ;c,  ;bk ;db ;dn ;df ;fd ;b [brake] works anywhere. It's just about impossible to confirm unless you're punishing something, but  ;db ;fd ;c is very difficult to punish, so vs most of the cast it's entirely safe to do on block.

Rex Dart

Quote from: lunarhostility on January 06, 2012, 06:38:27 PM
Is Andy a good anchor? I'm a total noob to this game, but it seems like he can get some major damage and pressure with his EX moves.

I think Andy works well in any position. If he's on point, he has great normals and meterless corner combos. As an anchor, he gets great HD combos and EX moves that help his poking/zoning game.

Matt Alder

Hiltzy asked in the arcade Andy thread which was locked if Andy's target combo,  B,D could be cancelled without cr.B. Yes it can. Into any special you want. It's marvelous.

fiol

i hate andy... really... dunno how to beat him.
today i met a guy whose team was: andy,kyo,iori
mine was billy,ralf,clark
with billy i ve a lot of problems to beat andy.. any suggestion?


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Reiki.Kito

Well, can't say I play Andy, but that match up shouldn't be as difficult if you play the defensive game.

You want to run and gun, get in his face for some damage and get away. Aside from his fireball and his normals, most of his moves are ones you can punish. Use d.C to stop Andy's jump ins and make use of back dashing to make him mess up his spacing with normals. You want to stick to your poking game. j.CD, hcf+C, qcb+A, f+B, anything you can get your hands on to space and poke you should use. If he does get in your face and you can't get him off, don't be ashamed to use meter to blowback or guard cancel roll. You can punish him if you GC Roll (GCAB) on his st.C if you know he'll do his f+A. He won't be able to cancel anything afterwards so you can hurt him bad. That's not easy though so you'll have to know it's coming.

Mienaikage

Quote from: Matt Alder on January 06, 2012, 08:14:59 PM
Far  ;c,  ;db ;fd ;c,  ;bk ;db ;dn ;df ;fd ;b [brake] works anywhere. It's just about impossible to confirm unless you're punishing something

Why would you need to confirm? You can't DC on block :P

Matt Alder

Quote from: Mienaikage on January 12, 2012, 03:41:00 PM
Quote from: Matt Alder on January 06, 2012, 08:14:59 PM
Far  ;c,  ;db ;fd ;c,  ;bk ;db ;dn ;df ;fd ;b [brake] works anywhere. It's just about impossible to confirm unless you're punishing something

Why would you need to confirm? You can't DC on block :P
True but  ;db ;fd ;c is punishable by some characters. It is pretty negative on block.

Mienaikage

Perhaps worth substituting for ;a then? (Granted that you're in range for it to hit)

Matt Alder

A version starts up quicker and deals way less damage, recovery is virtually the same. It's like -10f vs -12f on block. It's a powerful combo starter but only use it against characters without extremely fast punishers. For example I can use it all day against my friend's Mai or Billy, but if I did it against Mr. Karate I would be asking to eat his EXDM.

sibarraz

Which combos with 800-1000 damage does Andy had?


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Chowdizzle

Quote from: Matt Alder on January 14, 2012, 08:53:09 PM
A version starts up quicker and deals way less damage, recovery is virtually the same. It's like -10f vs -12f on block. It's a powerful combo starter but only use it against characters without extremely fast punishers. For example I can use it all day against my friend's Mai or Billy, but if I did it against Mr. Karate I would be asking to eat his EXDM.

Is  ;db ;fd ;a punishable? Supers are fast enough to punish? I've never been punished for it but no one I've played has tried with a DM.

sibarraz

I'm sure that could be punished, with blockstrings the only safe move imo is QCB + p without using meters


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hiltzy85

Can K` or Kula punish blocked  zaneiken (A or C) with dp+C or EX dp?  I feel like they're both really fast and have crazy range (Kula's dp+C hits from like just inside half screen)...
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milesw

I havent tested it but those moves arent fast at all. So I doubt it.
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Reiki.Kito

Kula and K' can both punish  ;db ;fd;a with a sweep or a 4 frame normal.