Tier lists and Character Discussion Thread

[BioBooster]

And sadly he got a few dmg nerfs for console...

[Frofighter]

Found this on SRK, originally posted by Laban. It's a tier list by Mari, a high level KOF '02:UM player from Japan:
http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/kof13/index.html#ya0-trng3jmk5p765kfb8cg278l53jnp9fgk5de78bfk6bhl3zda7iei3yd45dh762oc7jnp6z956wbz3seg9g8r5cef7ea19ikf5mcn6rlp7d654wit5zg04tb68o6yaid39hig35ng48p02rml36-bkf-naitimu_mari

Like Justius's tier list, it seems to break a lot of the current lines of thought in the U.S. scene. Things to note:

1. Ash is at the bottom of the list, but still in A tier.
2. Benimaru and Robert are around mid-range.
3. Leona, King, Maxima, and Mai are noticeably high.
4. Clark and Billy near the bottom.
5. EX Iori at the very top.

Makes me wonder what we're gonna see when we have Japanese players at Evo.... and just how the game is developing over there in general.

[Kane317]

Poor Chin.

[LouisCipher]

Like Justius's tier list, it seems to break a lot of the current lines of thought in the U.S. scene. Things to note:

1. Ash is at the bottom of the list, but still in A tier.
2. Benimaru and Robert are around mid-range.
3. Leona, King, Maxima, and Mai are noticeably high.
4. Clark and Billy near the bottom.
5. EX Iori at the very top.

Makes me wonder what we're gonna see when we have Japanese players at Evo.... and just how the game is developing over there in general.

Whhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaattttt???? Wow, that is just odd and I'm not just saying that because I main them but I think everyone can agree that they're very solid characters that do big damage.

I'd like to know what they see in Mai though.

[marchefelix]

I'd like to know what they see in Mai though.

If it'll give you any indication, you should see the Mai vid I just posted.

What I got from it was that she has some awesome EX moves and can air throw opponents out of any move that sends them into the air (and she seems to have many of those).

[Diavle]

So.... is this like the most balanced fighter ever or what?

[LouisCipher]

I assume you mean this: KoF XIII : Mai Shiranui Combo Vid

That's some interesting tech but the damage isn't that impressive. I can imagine some dirty tricks with her air-grab though and her jumping CD has amazing priority (as good as Takuma's).

[marchefelix]

Word. CD to air   +   was incredible!

(That was in that combo vid.)

[JennyCage]

Found this on SRK, originally posted by Laban. It's a tier list by Mari, a high level KOF '02:UM player from Japan:

It's not a bad list.  My opinions have changed a lot since I posted my own months back and this one is closer to how I view things now.  I would put Benimaru back into ultra top tier, and maybe give Robert and Kensou a bit of a raise, but otherwise it looks alright.  Finally a list that puts King where she belongs.  I also like that EX Iori is high, though he shouldn't be #1.  He isn't "inferIori," he's "versatilIori."

My own list nowadays would be something like:

A+:  Benimaru, Mr. Karate, EX Kyo, Kyo
A:  Iori/EX Iori, Saiki, Shen, Kensou, King, Duo Lon
A-:  Robert, Andy, K', Takuma, Kim, Billy, Leona, Yuri, Joe, Athena, Hwa Jai, Kula, Mai, Vice, Clark
B+:  Ash, Terry, Elizabeth, Daimon, Ralf, Chin, Mature, Raiden, Maxima

Some of the lower tiers are probably only there because they're under-represented.  My opinion will probably change again in another 3 months.

[Kane317]

My own list nowadays would be something like:

A+:  Benimaru, Mr. Karate, EX Kyo, Kyo
A:  Iori/EX Iori, Saiki, Shen, Kensou, King, Duo Lon
A-:  Robert, Andy, K', Takuma, Kim, Billy, Leona, Yuri, Joe, Athena, Hwa Jai, Kula, Mai, Vice, Clark
B+:  Ash, Terry, Elizabeth, Daimon, Ralf, Chin, Mature, Raiden, Maxima

Some of the lower tiers are probably only there because they're under-represented.  My opinion will probably change again in another 3 months.

Just kinda curious, and you're entitled to your opinion, as a Duo Lon user what's your reasoning for him being placed so high, relatively speaking of course.

[sibarraz]

I can't see how duo lon is that good to begin with it, he under pressure is not very good and his offensive is nothing to write home about imo

[desmond_kof]

I can't see how duo lon is that good to begin with it, he under pressure is not very good and his offensive is nothing to write home about imo

Have you ever played a decent to very good Dou Lon? His offense and mix-ups can be a nightmare...

[sibarraz]

I can't see how duo lon is that good to begin with it, he under pressure is not very good and his offensive is nothing to write home about imo

Have you ever played a decent to very good Dou Lon? His offense and mix-ups can be a nightmare...

Like I said, he's offensive is nothing to write home about in the sense that had good offensive, but that other characters could do the job way better, and the cons damage the pros imo

He is a reliable character, but at least he shouldn't be that high on the tier list

[Saitsuofleaves]

A good Duo Lon's offense puts a damn good majority of the cast's offense to shame.  Pure damage isn't everything.

[sibarraz]

Hiis good offensive means nothing next to other characters who maybe don't had the good mixups but can't cover better other areas, plus his not that big damage is still a problem specially in a game like XIII, plus, I found him a bit execution heavy

He is a reliable character, but no way he is that good