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Which 3 chrs do you feel are most effective at 50%?

Andy Bogard
3 (1.8%)
Ash Crimson
2 (1.2%)
Athena Asamiya
3 (1.8%)
Benimaru Nikaido
7 (4.3%)
Billy Kane
0 (0%)
Chin Gentsai
6 (3.7%)
Clark Still
1 (0.6%)
Duo Lon
1 (0.6%)
Elisabeth Branctorche
2 (1.2%)
Goro Daimon
3 (1.8%)
Hwa Jai
20 (12.2%)
Iori Yagami
7 (4.3%)
Joe Higashi
2 (1.2%)
K'
4 (2.4%)
Kim Kaphwan
2 (1.2%)
King
2 (1.2%)
Kula Diamond
3 (1.8%)
Kyo Kusanagi
11 (6.7%)
Leona Heidern
1 (0.6%)
Mai Shiranui
1 (0.6%)
Mature
4 (2.4%)
Maxima
2 (1.2%)
Raiden
4 (2.4%)
Ralf Jones
2 (1.2%)
Robert Garcia
0 (0%)
Ryo Sakazaki
1 (0.6%)
Saiki
2 (1.2%)
Shen Woo
6 (3.7%)
Sie Kensou
0 (0%)
Takuma Sakazaki
26 (15.9%)
Terry Bogard
1 (0.6%)
Vice
5 (3%)
Yuri Sakazaki
2 (1.2%)
Flame Iori
3 (1.8%)
NESTS Kyo
4 (2.4%)
Mr. Karate
21 (12.8%)

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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #165 on: October 26, 2012, 04:40:11 AM »
I don't, I even said that I may just be nitpicking, so don't mind me too much. I'm just stating my opinion~
Ok, forget.

I remember an Yuri player which his usual BnB was:  DiveKick/CrossUp/j.X, c.B, c.B, s.B, hcb.B
Freaking awesome! That was so exotic!  :D
Though... can't remember which torney and who was  :/

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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #166 on: October 26, 2012, 05:50:50 AM »
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any cr B not done right next to your opponent then the link will not hit.
I know that, but like you said, a lot of her openings come from her dp+K mixup, and you're close enough for it from that opening.
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its hard to confirm
It's not.
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or dpC DC into dm or sdm.
That's a waste of drive, you might as well do c.B c.B s.B EXDM.
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you need to watch that video with MAgo and tokido VS E.T the taiwanese player.
I started watching this video and got bored so I closed. Guess I'll stick with Shoki's Yuri , the rare times he plays her

Can you please stop assuming I don't know how to play Yuri ? I wasn't supposed to reply but to be honest, it's annoying me.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2012, 06:19:11 AM by Tikok »

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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #167 on: October 26, 2012, 07:32:23 AM »
Do you have any combos that you'd like to contribute to this thread, Tikok?
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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #168 on: October 26, 2012, 07:53:28 AM »
I'm very sorry for derailing this thread too much. Will a 2 meter no drive combo for Yuri do ?
If so I'll post it a bit later, since I need to boot up KoF XIII to check how much damage it does. I know it's 500+ but I don't know the exact value.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2012, 07:59:03 AM by Tikok »

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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #169 on: October 29, 2012, 02:41:27 PM »
You said:
The thing is a lot of combos aren't doable from a low, either because they require a hard attack's hitstun (like Yuri's EX Saiha combos)...
And then:
...and EX Saiha combos aren't and shouldn't be rare because she can link c.B > c.C/s.C and these are very easy, hitconfirmable 3f/2f links.
So what I missed?!! Something disturbes me... :/

Anyway, @Fadedsun, I tried to put out your combo, and that works very nice! 565dmg and 567 with dp.C! lol
And since we are there... starting from low(c.B link c.C), that does 525 dmg...
« Last Edit: October 30, 2012, 01:25:05 AM by Ky0 »

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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #170 on: October 29, 2012, 10:48:22 PM »
Tikok is right. Not everybody in the cast has an "easy" d.B -> heavy attack link, I think Yuri's one is precisely the easiest one so that's one counter example. Gl starting Shen combos with d.B to s.C for example (and gl thinking this is the kind of things you can master perfectly)
The combos that keep working starting from lows are the one following a "low -> command attack" pattern.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2012, 10:53:45 PM by Shaman »

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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #171 on: November 13, 2012, 12:21:25 AM »
Takuma, 1 stock, 1 drive, corner, start with grab.

;fd ;df ;dn ;db ;bk ;b, ;c, ;fd ;b, ;dn ;df ;fd ;d, ;db ;a, ;db ;a, ;db ;fd ;b ;d, ;dn ;df ;fd ;d, ;db ;fd ;b
(skip next line on loop #3)
;fd ;bk ;fd ;c [DC] (back to start) x3
;db ;fd ;b, ;c (stun)
;uf ;c, ;c, ;fd ;b, ;db ;fd ;d, ;db ;fd ;b, ;db ;fd ;b, ;dn ;df ;fd ;df ;dn ;db ;bk ;a

64 hits, 1025 damage.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2012, 12:26:12 AM by Mienaikage »

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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #172 on: December 16, 2012, 08:15:58 PM »
gave this combo a shot
Damn that link is hard to land 3 times in a row...
took me a solid 30-45 minutes to get

100% with 1 bar and 1 drive... at least it makes sense that it's hard right?
« Last Edit: December 16, 2012, 08:29:48 PM by Splurgendii »

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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #173 on: March 05, 2013, 04:50:09 AM »
Mai:

[Corner Variant] j.C, st.C, qcb AC, hcf D [Drive Cancel] qcb C, qcb C, Air Throw = 495 damage (1 Drive 1 Meter)

[Corner Variant] j.C, st.C, hcf D [Drive Cancel] air qcb A, qcb C, Air Throw = 432 damage (1 Drive 0 Meter)

[Corner Variant] j.C, st.C, hcf BD, qcb C [Drive Cancel] qcf A, qcb C, qcb C, Air Throw = 467 damage (1 Drive 0 Meter)

[Corner Variant] j.C, st.C, qcb AC, hcf D [Drive Cancel] qcf A, qcb C, qcb C, qcb C, Air Throw = 560 damage (1 Drive 1 Meter) (This combo will equal to 525 damage if done without the j.C starter)

[Corner Variant] j.C, st.C, qcb AC, hcf D [Drive Cancel] qcb C, qcb C, qcb C, st.C = 512 damage (1 drive 1 meter) 

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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #174 on: April 04, 2013, 06:08:53 AM »
Feel like this thread needs a boost. It's great for helping sort out second characters and efficient meter usage for conservation or dire situations. In light of a couple of nice Vice combos videos I've seen recently, I'd like to contribute.

For half drive meter and one bar super:

hop  ;c, close  ;d  ;fd ;a ;dn ;db ;bk ;c  st.  ;a ;bk ;db ;dn ;df ;fd ;b ;d st.  ;d ;fd ;a ;dn ;db ;bk ;c (DC)  ;bk ;db ;dn ;df ;fd ;d  ;dn ;db ;bk ;c ;dn ;df ;fd ;c

Great combo because it builds back all the super it spends, plus about 15% and gains back about 35% drive, making it a pretty meter positive combo, and it does 485 damage.

Edit: Landing the standing  ;a is a link into the free juggle  ;bk ;db ;dn ;df ;fd ;b ;d, which is a bit strict but not impractical in an offline match, just a risk reward on how on point you are the day. The key is to cancel into the first  ;dn ;db ;bk ;c late so that the fall speed of the character matches Vice's recovery. I got the idea from a combo performed by Persona on Leona so I random selected and got that link to work on Raiden. I'll check on the more common and neutral sized characters before I try and argue with anyone about this viability. Take it with a grain of salt until I provide video doing it on Kyo and Iori. Character fall speeds vs. size are a bit enigmatic in this game so feel free to help me out in testing. If this works on most of the cast it's a good bread and butter for vice with a bit of meter. May cross post to the vice forums for verification.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2013, 06:26:40 AM by Burn Your Ego »

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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #175 on: April 04, 2013, 04:09:16 PM »
Kim:

1 Stock, 1 Drive Gauge:

(corner) j.C, far D, s.C, qcb+BD, d~u+B (DC), qcf+K (whiff), qcb+D, d~u+D~down+D = 487 dmg

^ I don't really like that starter of j.C, far D, s.C because it is very hard to land in an actual match, so here is a more practical variant:

(corner) j.C, s.C/s.D, qcb+BD, d~u+B (DC), qcf+K (whiff), qcb+D, d~u+D~down+D = 473 dmg
(corner) d.Bx3, st.B, qcb+BD, d~u+B (DC), qcf+K (whiff), qcb+D, d~u+D~down+D = 398 dmg


XIII Kyo:

2 Stock, 1 Drive Gauge:

cr.Bx2, s.B, dp+A (DC), qcb~hcf+AC, qcf+A, qcf+A, rdp+D = 503 (534 if you add j.C as a starter)
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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #176 on: May 17, 2013, 04:20:27 AM »
3 bars and one drive with Vice

hop  ;c, close  ;d  ;fd ;a ;dn ;db ;bk ;c  st.  ;a ;bk ;db ;dn ;df ;fd ;b ;d st.  ;d ;fd ;a ;dn ;db ;bk ;c (DC)  ;bk ;db ;dn ;df ;fd ;d  ;fd ;df ;dn ;db ;bk x2 ;b ;d = 624

 

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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #177 on: July 24, 2013, 03:49:26 AM »
Been some time since anything's been added to this thread, but I have some additions for Kim.

[KOF XIII] Kim Kaphwan 1-2 Meter + 50% Drive Combos

(c.B x 2, s.B) or cl.C also works wherever I use s.D, c.B, sB. cl.C will, of course, do more damage.

[Corner 1 meter/50% Drive. 438 Damage) Pretty sure it's about 500 if started with j.C, cl.C
s.D, c.B, s.B, qcfqcf+B, (run) qcb+D, d~u+B [DC] qcf+B (whiff), qcb+B, d~u+D, d+D

(Corner 2 meter/50% Drive. 493 Damage) About 565 if started with j.C, cl.C
s.D, c.B, s.B, qcfqcf+B, (run) qcb+B, ff+A, qcb+BD, d~u+B [DC] qcf+B (whiff), qcb+B, ff+A, qcb+D


(Corner 2 meter/50% Drive. 499 Damage) 575 Damage if started with j.C, cl.C
s.D, c.B, s.B, qcfqcf+B, (run) qcb+B, d~u+B [DC] qcf+B (whiff), qcb+B, ff+A, qcb+BD, d~u+D, d+D


(Corner 2 meter/50% Drive. 600 Damage)
j.C, cl.C, qcfqcf+B, d~u+B, d~u+B [DC] qcf+B (whiff), qcb+B, ff+A, qcb+BD, d~u+D

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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #178 on: July 30, 2013, 08:05:17 AM »
Excellent quality additions and cost efficient at that.

Big ups on posting the video to boot.

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Re: The NEW 50% Character Thread (Tables and Voting on Page 1)
« Reply #179 on: August 25, 2013, 07:39:43 PM »
Some 2 Bars 1 drive Terry combos :

Jump  ;d , close ;d ,  ;df ;c ,   ;dn ;db ;bk ;a ,  ;dn ;db ;bk ;db ;fd ;a ;c
541 Dmg, can't work near corner. 0:00 on the video.

Jump  ;d, close  ;c,  ;df (maintain charge asap after the close C),  ;c,  ;up ;c,  ;dn ;db ;bk ;d,  ;dn ;db ;bk ;db ;fd ;a ;c
Pure style, or if you don't know which side you're landing after an ambiguous jump in. 527 Dmg, can't work near corner. 0:05 on the video.

Jump  ;d , close ;d ,  ;df ;c ,   ;dn ;db ;bk ;a ,  ;dn ;db ;bk ;d,  ;dn ;db ;bk ;db ;fd ;a ;c,  ;dn ;up ;c
549 Dmg, corner only.  0:16 on the video.

Terry combos
« Last Edit: August 25, 2013, 08:37:00 PM by Hyun Sai »