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KOF 2002UM Guard Cancel CD
« on: April 26, 2011, 04:06:02 PM »
Several characters in KOF 2002UMT have GCDs that can be whiffed by characters who have a low hit-box in their cr.C or cr.D.

GCD Category:

Highest: Daimon

High: Benimaru, Mature, Vice , Joe, Ryo, Yuri, Ralf, Vanessa, Yashiro, Orochi Yashiro, Angel, Lin

Mid:  Kim, Terry, Andy, Leona, Robert, Robert EX, Kensou, Kensou EX, K’, Kula, Seth, Foxy, Yamazaki, Blue Mary, Billy, Heidern, King

Low:Everyone else.

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Characters with high GCD can whiff over these characters' low attack:

cr. C: Athena, Bao

cr. D: Andy, Kensou, Kensou EX, Shermie, Orochi Shermie, Chris, Orochi Chris,  Ramon, Blue Mary, Chin, Leona

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Characters with mid GCD can whiff over these characters' cr.D:

Leona, Shermie, Orochi Shermie, Chin

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Now, there are characters who can block against all GCD after their light attacks. These lights attacks are +3 or higher on block and are used to make the opponent waste stock with their GCD.

Characters with light attacks that are +3 or higher on block:

1. Iori: Far st.A (+4)

2. Andy: cr.B (+3)

3. Angel: st.A (+4)

4. Kasumi: cl.A (+3)

5. Lin: Far st.A (+4), cl. A (+3), cl.B (+5), cr.B (+5)

6. K': cl.A (+3)

7. May Lee (Standard Mode): cr.A (+3)

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Some characters' GCD are faster than others. These GCDs have priority over set-ups such as Ryo's cl. C-> F. A (Parry).

Characters with fast GCD:
Iori, Whip, Leona, Angel, Shermie, Orochi Shermie, Choi, Billy, Chin, Kyo-2, Krizalid

Set-ups against GCD (Characters Specifics)
All moves must follow a cancel-able attack such as normal attacks.

Auto-Guard Moves:
(In process...)

Parries:
(In process...)

Evasive Move:
1. Daimon’s qcb+K:  This set-up only works on another Daimon’s GCD. This is the reason why Daimon’s GCD has the highest hit-box in the game. Daimon will roll direclty under the other Daimon’s GCD and can follow up by a grab or combo.

(More to come soon...)

Counter Moves:
(In process.....)

Invicible Start-up Moves:
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« Last Edit: May 25, 2011, 01:57:48 PM by AmedoS310 »

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Re: KOF 2002UM Guard Cancel CD
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2011, 07:04:52 PM »
Yeah Billy's GCD is fast, but I believe the hitbox is short... Maybe its slightly varied from that in OG2k2 I'm not sure..

For the list that's unfinished, are there characters who don't have any light attacks that would work for that situation??? Also, can light attacks that are +0 on block technically work to setup???

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Re: KOF 2002UM Guard Cancel CD
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2011, 07:39:08 PM »
For the list that's unfinished, are there characters who don't have any light attacks that would work for that situation??? Also, can light attacks that are +0 on block technically work to setup???

I believe not. I tested Athena's cl.D which is +6 and she still got GCD out of it. As for the second question, only light attacks with +3 or higher are quick enough for a character to block before getting GCD.

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Light Attacks Against GCD revised.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2011, 12:28:37 AM by AmedoS310 »

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Re: KOF 2002UM Guard Cancel CD
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2011, 08:30:59 PM »
Yo, this is great information and something I have been experimenting for quite a while now. If you don't mind I will help contribute some attacks I have found, and some set ups too.
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Re: KOF 2002UM Guard Cancel CD
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 10:04:05 PM »
Yo, this is great information and something I have been experimenting for quite a while now. If you don't mind I will help contribute some attacks I have found, and some set ups too.

Oh yes. Any help will be appreciated.

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Re: KOF 2002UM Guard Cancel CD
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2011, 04:18:58 PM »
Lin can do 623A/C out of blocked close moves / 6A + late-jumpins + whatnot. 6A gives you enough time to throw out a 623A and determine if they'll throw a GCCD out or not. Buffer the input, if you see the GCCD than just throw it out.

He can also teleport through it using his D teleport.

Lin is rape against GCCD's.
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