The King of Fighters XIII General Discussion Thread

[Diavle]

Glad XIII didn't lose its place in the list prior to the release of the patch, good chances it will make it to next month's list as well then.

3rd Strike still fighting the good fight I see, guess SF4 isn't as popular there as it is in NA, unless they ditched the arcades for the console SSF4 or are waiting for the arcade edition.

[Violent Ryo]

Good news on the arcade list top ten.  KOF XIII seems to be redeeming it self..it's doing better than 2002 UM.  I personally like 98 UM more but 2002 UM seemed like the most popular one.

I'm glad the 2D SF is doing better than 3D SF, hope things like this come to the notice of Capcom management...


Question to the AI regulars:  when you apply the unspoken rule..do new players notice something fishy or are they shocked at when you guys play each other? haha

[sibarraz]

I think that SF IV will be at top again after the realease of arcade edition

[Kane317]

Question to the AI regulars:  when you apply the unspoken rule..do new players notice something fishy or are they shocked at when you guys play each other? haha

I'd like to think I make it the most convincing since there's very little acting involved with me haha; among the regulars I probably need the most work if you know what I mean.  For me, it's more like character selection (they usually won't see my Chin/Shen unless I'm playing the regulars).  When I play random, I'm kinda clueless too so it looks normal heh.  

[MUSOLINI]

I think that SF IV will be at top again after the realease of arcade edition

has sf4 even been top? gundam, t6br & bb & ggac have pretty much remained top 4 for as long as i can remember.

[sibarraz]

I was speaking of the TOP 10 : P

I think that the best thaT sf iv did was third or fourth place by the first months when was released

[solidshark]

Good news on the arcade list top ten.  KOF XIII seems to be redeeming it self..it's doing better than 2002 UM.  I personally like 98 UM more but 2002 UM seemed like the most popular one.

I'm glad the 2D SF is doing better than 3D SF, hope things like this come to the notice of Capcom management...

Wonderful news. Agreed about SF 2D as well. Arcade edition may become popular again, but I bet 3S will still outlast. Can't wait to see the numbers for XIII grow.

[Shiranui_ninja]

Interesting note coming from MMCafe's Professor (japan):

Amongst players that are still playing KOFXIII, things are starting to take the same path as they did back with the awfully unbalanced arcade version of KOFXI. That is, the players are proposing ratio styled matches for tournaments, meaning that if you pick the stronger characters, you'll need to chose the weaker characters for the rest of your team. The latest proposal for the ratios via Shitarababbs was this. It probably needs some more tuning though.


Alloted Maximum Ratio = 5

Ratio / Character
5 K', Raiden
4 Kyo, Elisabeth, Takuma
3 Andy, Iori, Shen, Kula
2 Robert, Chin, Yuri, Maxima, Leona, Ash, Benimaru, Kim
1 Duolon, Goro, Terry, Clark, Hwa, King
0 Joe, Kensou, Athena, Ralf, Ryo, Mai, Mature, Vice

So, is Mature low tier now?......

What do you think? If the game is really so bad balanced I think ratio matches could be a good solution. I mean, even the game should include this ratio matches for a next patch or for the console version. Ratio match mode in CVS, for example, was a nice way to have a balanced team. I think this game mode for console version could be cool (at least as alternative game mode).

P.D: Oh, no. My main team is between 1-0 ratio  O_o  I'm going to suffer with this game...

[JeremyH]

It's not a bad idea, assuming the balance is that bad, but I think further testing would be needed to decide ratios for each character

[Zabel]

Far to early to call that, game has only had one major tournament showing and it still isn't that old yet really.

[TYRANNICAL]

Guess that's a sign that there will not be a balanced patch coming?  Oh well.

[Kane317]

Far to early to call that, game has only had one major tournament showing and it still isn't that old yet really.

I think it's just about time (3 months), the ratios can adjust over time but they're not going to change that much.  I agree with most of the tiering except maybe Mature should be at the 3 level (even without her infinite) and Iori should be at 4 IMHO.

Guess that's a sign that there will not be a balanced patch coming?  Oh well.

Just means not anytime soon, who knows in a month or so, we'll see.

[Shiranui_ninja]

A patch is quite expensive for SNKP. It's not about make an update online, is send a new HDD cabinet, if I'm not wrong. So, it's difficult see a balancing patch for now. But maybe in future, they could release some kind of expansion revision with more characters and balancing features.

[sibarraz]

For being ratio 2 leona and kim are FUCKING beasts

[Diavle]

For being ratio 2 leona and kim are FUCKING beasts

Yeah honestly, there's all sort of wrong with that list. Takuma over Kula? Hwa and Clark over Mature and Vice?

Aside from K' and Raiden, who are clearly ahead of the pack, though still very much beatable, I would put the vast majority of the rest in A and B class, with barely any in C. The game's balance isn't that bad really without the aforementioned two, based on the vids seen. Its like MOTW in that regard, there are tiers but most of the cast is viable.