Topic: KOF XIII 7th General Thread: Evo 2012 countdown edition

[venusandeve]

About xiii mechanics vs new mechanics, I think the DC/HD system is a stroke of genius because it curbs OP combos while allowing them to be in the game. It's the best of every world really.

On the EX charas: how many of the old characters had EX moves that did the same damage as an DM? EX Iori and Kyo have DPs that hit for close to 220. to me, that is op, because of execution. dead fast, really strong.

The idea of an UM 13 is nice. but I wonder how much it would cost them to do that. I mean, we'd want whole teams right? if you put up a poll, I'm sure ppl would want at least 4 new teams (new faces, orochi, billy's team, ???) and that's a lot of animation. I am glad that the EX characters aren't just head swaps though.

[ELTRO]

If they make a IV give me Ryo's and Kyo far  from 98. Then I'll be a happy camper.

[sibarraz]

The only op character IMO is mr karate, but still I had seen worse from snk

[Saitsuofleaves]

No one's OP in the game at all.

[Homies Over Shotos]

I want an EX Chin, EX Terry and EX Clark.  Maybe an EX Vice.

[solidshark]

I want an EX Chin, EX Terry and EX Clark.  Maybe an EX Vice.

I'll second your EX Terry, maybe add EX/NESTS-style Andy and EX Mai.

[Running Wild]

EX Clark? Vice? Mai? Andy?

What?

C'mon now, we don't need that many EX characters. It would be easier to just give them the one or two to several moves they are missing, and call it a day instead of making a separate EX version.

Especially given it's not a huge drastic gameplay change compared to Kyo, Iori and Mr.Karate.

Even in Terry's case, all he needs is Power Dunk+Break and maybe Power Charge (MOTW style) and he's set. Give him a Garou attire (selectable whole holding start), and it's go time.

[ELTRO]

EX Clark? Vice? Mai? Andy?

What?

C'mon now, we don't need that many EX characters. It would be easier to just give them the one or two to several moves they are missing, and call it a day instead of making a separate EX version.

Especially given it's not a huge drastic gameplay change compared to Kyo, Iori and Mr.Karate.

Even in Terry's case, all he needs is Power Dunk+Break and maybe Power Charge (MOTW style) and he's set. Give him a Garou attire (selectable whole holding start), and it's go time.

Man that would be too good.

[Saitsuofleaves]

Running Wild still missed the one crucial thing missing from Terry.

[LouisCipher]

Maybe EX Ralf? Make him a grappler again? That's all I can think of.

[Homies Over Shotos]

EX Clark? Vice? Mai? Andy?

What?

C'mon now, we don't need that many EX characters. It would be easier to just give them the one or two to several moves they are missing, and call it a day instead of making a separate EX version.

Especially given it's not a huge drastic gameplay change compared to Kyo, Iori and Mr.Karate.

Even in Terry's case, all he needs is Power Dunk+Break and maybe Power Charge (MOTW style) and he's set. Give him a Garou attire (selectable whole holding start), and it's go time.

You can't say that XIII clark plays anything close to 02 clark.  That's good enough reason for an EX clark right there.  All them grabs and grabs into grabs.  With the DC system and we have a party.

[Running Wild]

Running Wild still missed the one crucial thing missing from Terry.

Oh right, ARE YOU OKAY needs to be put back.

You can't say that XIII clark plays anything close to 02 clark.  That's good enough reason for an EX clark right there.  All them grabs and grabs into grabs.  With the DC system and we have a party.

I never said he did.

That's why I said add MORE MOVES to the existing characters.

Think about it. Okay, so we have EX Clark and we'll base him on 2k2 Clark.

Add Mount Tackle + Follow-Ups
Add Napalm Stretch
Add Frankensteiner
Add Shining Wizard
Add Running Three DM

Plus he'll have the good ol' SAB, Gatling Attack... hey wait a minute... why not just give all of those moves above to regular Clark instead of making a separate character out of it? That's not what EX characters were meant for.

It makes more sense to add the missing moves back to the character rather than create a separate version of character with them, on top of having everything else they already had.

Maybe EX Ralf? Make him a grappler again? That's all I can think of.

Ralf never was a soely a grappler, but he had his own SAB. Just give the current Ralf his SAB back, and maybe Ralf Kick/Tackle as well.

[Proto Cloud]

Real talk. I want '93 Terry, Vice, Mature, Kyo, Iori and Mai.

[LazieFreddy]

Ralf is already really good as it is.  Giving him his sab back on top of what he has now would give me nightmares. 

I want to see Ex king (no air fireball, but has command grab and anti air tornado kick) and 99' maxima (with rekkas and super command grab) though. 

[Running Wild]

Why do you want the worst version of Tornado Kick back? I shake my head at people that also miss Illusion Dance and Silent Slash. Those were horrible DM's, especially Silent Slash. Just give King her proximity grab back which EX King in 98UM already had. Then XIII King will be like the definitive version of her.

Same with Maxima, give him back his old moves, the rekka, and particularly his overhead, and his Bunker Buster, and he's good. Super command grab won't hurt either

Ralf I think could really benefit with with the Tackle back or at least the SAB.

I think alot of characters in XIII need more buffing/more moves, etc.