KOFXIII Not in Official Evo Line Up

[THE ANSWER]

Well I'm a little disapointed that John doesn't want to play Kula any more even when DG is offering a $1000.00 Bonus pot. I guess his happy being the best player in the 626/AI, I'm not going to hate on that we all have different goals in life, I've achieved mine and I'm happy and all I can do now is support the US KOF and not defend it like in the past.


Now let's move on and get back on topic.

Should we have a cutoff date to have a side tourney for KOF XIII at EVO? What I mean is that if the game is NOT out by XX/XX/2011 we should postpone it?

Or do should we just do a tourney even if the game is out a week before EVO?

[4leaf]

No need for cut off dates. People will show up regardless. Just prepare for it as if a lot of ppl will show up.

[Dark Geese]

Well I'm a little disapointed that John doesn't want to play Kula any more even when DG is offering a $1000.00 Bonus pot. I guess his happy being the best player in the 626/AI, I'm not going to hate on that we all have different goals in life, I've achieved mine and I'm happy and all I can do now is support the US KOF and not defend it like in the past.


Now let's move on and get back on topic.

Should we have a cutoff date to have a side tourney for KOF XIII at EVO? What I mean is that if the game is NOT out by XX/XX/2011 we should postpone it?

Or do should we just do a tourney even if the game is out a week before EVO?

Tough call, we'll discuss this on the phone as we will other things!!!

[Kane317]

Now let's move on and get back on topic.

Should we have a cutoff date to have a side tourney for KOF XIII at EVO? What I mean is that if the game is NOT out by XX/XX/2011 we should postpone it?

Or do should we just do a tourney even if the game is out a week before EVO?

I think if anything, we should get together as a community and play a mini-tourney, it doesn't have to be broadcasted so that way it'll avoid any aforementioned negativity yet'll we'll still accomplish our ultimate goal; growing the community. 

[Dark Geese]

Now let's move on and get back on topic.

Should we have a cutoff date to have a side tourney for KOF XIII at EVO? What I mean is that if the game is NOT out by XX/XX/2011 we should postpone it?

Or do should we just do a tourney even if the game is out a week before EVO?

I think if anything, we should get together as a community and play a mini-tourney, it doesn't have to be broadcasted so that way it'll avoid any aforementioned negativity yet'll we'll still accomplish our ultimate goal; growing the community. 

I agree with this, that way you can post just the Winners Finals or Grand Finals or stuff like that if you all are worried about the quality of play like we are talking about.

[THE ANSWER]

I see I will decline our participation in the live stream at EVO and let's get a few more comments on what people think.

[Terrastorm]

I think we should do a side tourney AND try to stream it regardless of whether or not the game comes out. We need to keep the interest in the game alive.

[metaphysics]

I am for as much exposure for the game as possible, so if the opportunity arises to stream the tournament I would hope we would take full advantage of it. I don't understand what we would be saving ourselves from by not.  Is it because we don't want to be criticized?

[Kane317]

I am for as much exposure for the game as possible, so if the opportunity arises to stream the tournament I would hope we would take full advantage of it. I don't understand what we would be saving ourselves from by not.  Is it because we don't want to be criticized?

Oscar's reasoning is that once we stream XIII in EVO, where the expectations is already high, plus we're going to be viewed live by literally thousands of Capcom fans; if it's not entertaining, then the prospective fans are going to dismiss it.

I dunno how I feel about this myself, but it's not an outrageous point either.

[Dark Geese]

I am for as much exposure for the game as possible, so if the opportunity arises to stream the tournament I would hope we would take full advantage of it. I don't understand what we would be saving ourselves from by not.  Is it because we don't want to be criticized?

Oscar's reasoning is that once we stream XIII in EVO, where the expectations is already high, plus we're going to be viewed live by literally thousands of Capcom fans; if it's not entertaining, then the prospective fans are going to dismiss it.

I dunno how I feel about this myself, but it's not an outrageous point either.

This is true. I keep people watching my vids on the older games how? I bring the hype, I show them high level play,  I bring Japanese/Asian players, Top players like Kula etc, and this causes people that may not even play the games at to least watch them! (Also more and more people due to these tournaments, high level play, top/international players coming over are learning more games in Mexico so it is contagious! High level play breeds more players/interest!)

I mean let me illustrate this- I have 700+ subscribers give or take. Which do you think more of them watch:
-Geese Tower matches me vs. MightyMar, or
-Battle 4 Mexico footage Kula vs. Zeus???????????

This is my point precisely!

This is the type of level people need to see in the USA at EVO for it to really catch on!

At EVO if people see play that isn't that high, as I've seen many times, they bat an eye an keep on going. It has to be something to keep their interest so the level of play has to be good! The higher the level of play the better!

[Terrastorm]

I am for as much exposure for the game as possible, so if the opportunity arises to stream the tournament I would hope we would take full advantage of it. I don't understand what we would be saving ourselves from by not.  Is it because we don't want to be criticized?

Oscar's reasoning is that once we stream XIII in EVO, where the expectations is already high, plus we're going to be viewed live by literally thousands of Capcom fans; if it's not entertaining, then the prospective fans are going to dismiss it.  
I dunno how I feel about this myself, but it's not an outrageous point either.

Those fans dismiss anything not Capcom though.

[Dark Geese]

I am for as much exposure for the game as possible, so if the opportunity arises to stream the tournament I would hope we would take full advantage of it. I don't understand what we would be saving ourselves from by not.  Is it because we don't want to be criticized?

Oscar's reasoning is that once we stream XIII in EVO, where the expectations is already high, plus we're going to be viewed live by literally thousands of Capcom fans; if it's not entertaining, then the prospective fans are going to dismiss it.  
I dunno how I feel about this myself, but it's not an outrageous point either.

Those fans dismiss anything not Capcom though.

Yes but remember if we are targeting these casual fans, then it has to be entertaining. If you take at EVO all this high level entertaining play in all these other games like Tekken, SSF4, BB, GG, anything you name it, but then you come to the KOF section and have subpar play, why would someone bother with that?

That's like going to a strip club where you see a bunch of "dimes" you can go spend time/money/VIP section BAYBEE HEHE with, then you got the average girl up the street that pulls up, why would anyone give her the time of day when they got all these dimes everywhere? She'd better offer ONE HELLUVA DEAL to even get people looking in her direction, it'd better be like 45 minutes in the VIP room for like $10 if she wants to even step on the floor with all those other girls!

If we want to COMPETE with the SF's, Blazblues etc, we've gotta at the least offer comparable level of play in our games! We are fighting an uphill battle as it is because we aren't mainstream, so we CANNOT offer an inferior product!!! Matter of fact if this was MY SHOW, I'd insist if we are gonna put our best foot forward our best foot would have to be BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE'S BEST FOOT!

Again, you can't be like everyone else! If you wanna get noticed or stand out, you've gotta offer something no one else offers! See my tournaments, I dont run them like everyone else does, but because of that it has my own staple to it, my own flair to it, people watch it on youtube etc because they know they are gonna get a show!! They know they are going to get entertained! They know I am going to give them something to watch!!!!

-DG

[desmond_kof]

If y'all so worried about what people think, why not have a free tournament open to anyone, then have a invitational 5v5 streamed or recorded only and have DG rock some spikey grey hair Don King style? :p

[Kane317]

That's like going to a strip club where you see a bunch of "dimes" you can go spend time/money/VIP section BAYBEE HEHE with, then you got the average girl up the street that pulls up, why would anyone give her the time of day when they got all these dimes everywhere? She'd better offer ONE HELLUVA DEAL to even get people looking in her direction, it'd better be like 45 minutes in the VIP room for like $10 if she wants to even step on the floor with all those other girls!

LOL.  Interesting choice of an analogy to illustrate your point, seems like more like an anecdote =)

[Dark Geese]

If y'all so worried about what people think, why not have a free tournament open to anyone, then have a invitational 5v5 streamed or recorded only and have DG rock some spikey grey hair Don King style? :p

Yo I'm trying!! That's why the Whole Mr. KOF/AI vs. Kula thing is SOOOO important! We had options for that at EVO, AI, Puebla and other things, and I KNEW that would be the thing that everyone would want to see, it would make everyone watch KOF at EVO or really ANYWHERE it's at!

So now it seems I gotta go back to the drawing board..=(

Kane- You are right an anecdote lol.