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'''Notation'''
[[image:a.gif]] - Light Punch
[[image:b.gif]] - Light Kick
[[image:c.gif]] - Heavy Punch
[[image:d.gif]] - Heavy Kick
'''Throws'''
Issetsu Seoi Nage - ''(close)'' [[image:bk.gif]] / [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:c.gif]]
Hikiri Tsuchi - ''(close)'' [[image:bk.gif]] / [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:d.gif]]
'''Command Normals'''
Ge-Shiki Gou Tsui - [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]]
Ge-Shiki Kubu Tsuchi - [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]]
'''Special Moves'''
108 Shiki Yami Barai - [[image:qcf.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]]
100 Shiki Oniyaki - [[image:dp.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]]
427 Shiki Kamukakari - [[image:hcb.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]] / [[image:d.gif]]
110 Shiki Nata Guruma - [[image:dp.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]] / [[image:d.gif]]
720 Shiki Homuragasane 1 - [[image:qcb.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]]
: ┗ 720 Shiki Homuragasane 2 - [[image:qcb.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]]
'''Desperation Moves'''
Ura 108 Shiki Orochinagi - [[image:qcb.gif]][[image:hcf.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]]
1207 Shiki Tsumugari - [[image:qcf.gif]][[image:qcf.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]]
== Introduction ==
Saisyu is a rushdown character with some of the most potent pressure in the game, giving him free reign to run mixups on the opponent. Alternatively, he can play a patient game with his ground projectile and DP. His neutral ground game is rather weak comparatively, with generally poor far standing normals that can easily get counter-poked or avoided entirely. Saisyu has to make up for this deficit with strong reactions and positioning during neutral, so he can shift the momentum in his favour and begin to run his suffocating offence.
== Gameplay Overview ==
{{StrengthsAndWeaknesses
| intro = '''''Saisyu is a rushdown character with suffocating pressure, compensated for with a mediocre grounded neutral.'''''
| pros=
* '''Balanced Kit''': Saisyu's specials give him a balanced moveset, with a decent ground fireball that helps Saisyu defend his space, a DP to anti-air, a rekka, a hard knockdown combo ender and an advancing overhead with a short bout of invulnerability.
* '''Suffocating Pressure''': Once he has gained an advantage, Saisyu makes the most of it, with various ways to score plus frames and hard knockdowns.
* '''Strong Mixups''': Saisyu has various ways to mix up the opponent, including two standing overheads and the infamous Kusanagi j.B for crossups, alongside some very strong low confirms.
* '''Explosive Damage''': With meter available, Saisyu can make his confirms count with consistent and highly damaging combos into super.
| cons=
* '''Unsafe Specials''': While he has various uses for his specials, almost all of them are unsafe on block and all of them leave Saisyu incredibly vulnerable on whiff. This forces you to be more delicate with how you use them.
* '''Stubby Buttons''': Saisyu's buttons are extremely short, especially while standing, meaning he struggles in neutral when trying to poke out other characters. Alongside this, his activation range for close normals is [https://clips.twitch.tv/FilthyBrightWombatTheRinger-PNN3-qxnhs_DMk68 really, really, really, really, really bad], so you can end up getting punished majorly for the wrong normal coming out.
}}
===System Mechanics===
'''Run VS Step'''
* Saisyu does his best with Run enabled, as this greatly enhances his pressure and allows him to unleash his explosive mixups more easily.
* While his step dash shares the animation with his overhead special, 427 Shiki Kamukakari (63214K), this isn't too good of a point, considering the risk/reward for using Kamukakari isn't too great anyway.
'''Roll VS Dodge'''
* As usual for most 98 UMFE characters, Saisyu does very well with Dodge due to it's natural advantages. Also, his reversals are quite good, so they can be buffered after doing a spot dodge. His dodge attack isn't the greatest as it doesn't allow for any special combos, but it still functions well for what it does.
* Roll is the more intuitive option, and Saisyu can still benefit from having it enabled. Using roll cancels can allow him to create very ambiguous left/right mixups from standing hits, and he can set an ambiguous left/right using a roll after performing a hard knockdown.
'''Advanced VS Extra'''
* Extra gauge has the most benefit for Saisyu, as Quick MAX gives him access to his most damaging combo routes, especially in red health. It also gives him the opportunity to convert from his 6A overhead, greatly enhancing his mixup potential.
* Advanced is still a good pick for Saisyu, as having an abundance of meter still gives him access to high damage, considering he still has the chance to convert into super from crouching lights.
'''Team Position'''
* With Advanced gauge, Saisyu is best mid or anchor, as to truly shine without Quick MAX he requires a lot of meter to be able to cash out into supers and MAX Mode.
* In Extra gauge, Saisyu doesn't have a best team position. His hard knockdowns give him easy opportunity to charge meter, and he doesn't rely on red health for solid damage.
== Changes from Previous Versions ==
'''98 to 98UM'''
Normals:
* cl.C's activation range has been reduced, it can still be linked from a cl.A or 2A
* 5B now has 3 more active frames
* Ge-Shiki Gou Tsui (6A) how has 2 frames less startup
Specials:
* 108 Shiki Yami Barai (236P) now has 3 frames less recovery
* Light 427 Shiki Kamukakari (63214B) now has 2 frames less startup, now connects from heavies and 6A
* Light 720 Shiki Homuragasane 1 (214A) now has 2 frames less startup.
* You can now juggle from the A version of 720 Shiki Homuragasane (214A)'s second hit.
Supers:
* 1207 Shiki Tsumugari (236236P) now has less startup; both A and MAX versions have 5 frames less startup and can now connect from lights.
* Heavy 1207 Shiki Tsumugari (236236C) is now invulnerable until after the first active frame.
'''98UM to 98UMFE'''
Specials:
* Light 110 Shiki Nata Guruma (623B)'s second hit now has a larger hitbox, so it shouldn't whiff if the first connects
* 427 Shiki Kamukakari (63214K) now has less recovery, second hit should be easier to connect if the first connects
* 720 Shiki Homuragasane 1 (214P)'s first hit now has a bigger hitbox and less recovery
Supers:
* 1207 Shiki Tsumugari (236236P)'s A and MAX versions have faster startup
== Normal Moves ==
'''Close'''
* cl.A: Can stop hops, otherwise useless. Chainable and cancelable.
* cl.B: Use 2A instead for more reliable range and same combo potential. Cancelable.
* cl.C: 2f start up, 2 hits, both cancelable. Can link from 2B. Your heavy normal for combos.
* cl.D: Same as 5D.
'''Standing'''
* 5A: Crappy range, can stop hops from close up but no other use for it really. Chainable.
* 5B: Farthest range of his normals. Good as a poke. Combos after 2B.
* 5C: Cancelable, but slow and crappy range and whiffs on crouchers. Rarely useful.
* 5D: Can work as anti-air against hops, but 623P is much more reliable.
'''Crouching'''
* 2A: Fast and good range for a 2A. Use this in confirms and blockstrings after 2B and as a short poke. Chainable and cancelable.
* 2B: Low combo starter. Links into cl.C. Chainable.
* 2C: Not a reliable anti-air. Can be used in punish or combo situations when too far away for cl.C. Cancelable.
* 2D: Cancelable sweep. Not bad at what it does.
'''Jumping'''
* j.A: Nice air-to-air.
* j.B: Typical Kusanagi knee. Often beats weaker anti-airs and air normals, and can crossup without much hassle. VERY GOOD.
* j.C: Decent jump-in, but nothing special about it. Use this on characters j.D might whiff on.
* j.D: Most damaging jump button (except for j.CD). Usually used for air zoning out of a hop. Can whiff on small crouchers and low-profile moves.
'''CD Normals'''
* 5CD: Quite fast, enough range to hit after some light-button blockstrings. Saisyu has good safe options to fish for counterhit combos with this. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff.
* j.CD: Great move. Often wins against other good moves and anti-airs thanks to good hitbox. Good for fishing counterhit combos just like regular CD.
== Throws ==
'''Issetsu Seoi Nage:''' <code>4/6C (close)</code>
* Regular throw, techable.
* Does not switch sides.
* Hard knockdown.
'''Hikiri Tsuchi:''' <code>4/6D (close)</code>
* Regular throw, techable.
* Goes fullscreen and switches sides.
* Backturned hard knockdown, but okizeme is only possible in the corner.
== Command Moves ==
'''Ge-Shiki Gou Tsui:''' <code>6A</code>
* Hits overhead when done on its own.
* Links into 236236A and 5C (Tall crouchers and standing opponents only) when Quick MAX is used.
* No overhead but cancelable when cancelled into. Acts as heavy normal for the purpose of combos.
* Combos from cl.C and is a true blockstring. 0 on block.
* One of the best command normals in the game.
'''Ge-Shiki Kubu Tsuchi:''' <code>6B</code>
* Plus on block, but combos from nothing. You can link into a variety of moves on hit.
* Mostly exists to extend your offense with plus frames, can be interrupted since it's not a true block string.
== Special Moves ==
'''108 Shiki Yami Barai:''' <code>236A/C</code>
* Ground traveling projectile.
* Rather slow. Use it sparingly.
'''100 Shiki Oniyaki:''' <code>623A/C</code>
* A DP with very good range and active frames.
* Due to his poor anti-air normals, this is his main anti-air. Learn to DP on reaction.
* Both versions are extremely unsafe on block.
* The C version has more invulnerability.
'''427 Shiki Kamukakari:''' <code>63214B/D</code>
* Another standing overhead.
* Around the same speed as 6A, and shares a startup animation with his step dash.
* Both versions have a small amount of startup invulnerability, with the D version having more.
* Due to the invulnerability, the D version can be used to bait Guard Cancel CD.
* Unsafe on block, with a soft knockdown on hit.
'''110 Shiki Nata Guruma:''' <code>623B/D</code>
* B version combos from 2A, D only combos from heavy buttons.
* Very nice go-to combo move that causes a hard knockdown and has decent damage.
* B version is a good meterless raw punish tool, more horizontal range than DP. Unsafe on block.
* D version is only really good for comboing from heavy buttons. Safe on block.
* The last hit of the move can be ducked on block under by even regular crouchers, leaving you open for a punish.
'''720 Shiki Homuragasane:''' <code>214A/C (x2)</code>
* Saisyu's rekka. Combos from heavy buttons. A version combos into 623C.
* Gives Saisyu access to his biggest meterless damage (although with only a soft knockdown).
* The second hit of the A version can combo into Orochinagi if you use Quick MAX, giving Saisyu consistent damage.
* Both versions are unsafe on block.
== Desperation Moves ==
'''Ura 108 Shiki Orochinagi:''' <code>2141236A/C (can be held)</code>
* A/C versions are identical. Combos from heavy buttons and from using Quick MAX on the 2nd hit of his rekka. His highest damage super.
* SDM deals even more damage and does multiple hits, while being plus on block. On an air hit (only hits once), you can juggle for one more damage in the corner.
* Best Orochinagi archetype DM in the game.
'''1207 Shiki Tsumugari:''' <code>236236A/C</code>
* A version has very fast startup. Combos from 2A and 6B. Can punish almost anything unsafe. One of the best raw super punishes in the game, and very strong light confirm tool.
* C version is slower than A but is a true reversal.
* SDM is like the A version but deals more damage. Combos from 2A/6B and is just as fast but isn't a reversal.
== Videos ==
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