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K' (Arcade Version)

Started by nilcam, October 27, 2010, 06:23:20 AM

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Amedø310

Quote from: Reiki.Kito on July 17, 2011, 07:52:18 PM
You probably could do that. The only problem is you'd have to do hcb+f A to do the dp+A motion or you're going to end up doing a super.

Or he could just press and hold C after doing dp+A.

Reiki.Kito

Oh right, sticky method!

Atb_555

Quote from: AmedoS310 on July 17, 2011, 08:57:02 PM
Quote from: Reiki.Kito on July 17, 2011, 07:52:18 PM
You probably could do that. The only problem is you'd have to do hcb+f A to do the dp+A motion or you're going to end up doing a super.

Or he could just press and hold C after doing dp+A.

Im pretty sure that method is not possible in XIII compared to older KoFs'

THE ANSWER

Quote from: Demoninja on July 17, 2011, 10:12:16 AM
so I've been wondering this for a little while but haven't had time to test. Since K' can DC his dp+A into qcf+C into D follow up, can he do this as a 1 drive no meter bnb? st.C(2), qcf+A, f+D, qcb+D, qcb+D, dp+A, (DC), qcf+C, f+D, qcb+D, qcb+D, dp+C?

Yes you can but Reiki.Kito said you would have to do the long input to avoid input overlapping. Also even with the long input it is not that easy to do and I wouldn't risk it on tight tournament situation.

Dune feels like that combo is better since you save a meter and his trying to get Japanese players to use it.
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Amedø310

#49
Quote from: Atb_555 on July 18, 2011, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: AmedoS310 on July 17, 2011, 08:57:02 PM
Quote from: Reiki.Kito on July 17, 2011, 07:52:18 PM
You probably could do that. The only problem is you'd have to do hcb+f A to do the dp+A motion or you're going to end up doing a super.

Or he could just press and hold C after doing dp+A.

Im pretty sure that method is not possible in XIII compared to older KoFs'

I take back what i said. It's only possible in HD for K'.

Demoninja

The timing on the dp+A (DC) qcf+C is strange. I think it's something like you have to do dp+A as late as possible because sometimes my qcf+C whiffs after the dp+A hits. It's definitely very good. It deals around 400 damage for 1 DC no meter. I forgot to try it from mid screen so I'm not 100% sure if it works there as well. It probably should though because dp+A doesn't really send them flying.

Reiki.Kito

That's as close as you're going to get to Raiden for no super meter. K' = Pushing the limits of KoF shenanigans TO THE EXTREME!

Amedø310

For that paritcualr combo. Is the trade-off 1 drive meter lost for 1 and 1/2+ power meter gain?

Demoninja

I'm not sure exactly how much meter you gain from that combo but I'd say it's definitely worth using that instead of DC into qcb+BD, especially if you run people that use meter like crazy.

Reiki.Kito

#54
Just thought about something.

In the corner, can you do d.bx2 -> qcf+A -> f+D -> j.CD -> qcb+b -> [DC] qcf+BD -> dp+C?

I saw someone do that at gamecenter, but I couldn't really remember the order. Just curious as it's not listed as an actual combo.

DJMirror949

it's down B x2 to Ein Trigger to Second Shell to Jump CD to EX Air Minute Spike since i think the jumping CD to Normal Air Minute Spike doesn't work

I do this corner combo instead (kinda flashy) standing C to Ein trigger to Second Shell to A ver of Crow bite -> Drive Cancel in regular minute spike then you drive cancel to EX minute spike to EX Crow bite or just A ver of crow bite.

Reiki.Kito

If that's the case, it might not even be a DC.

I was asking because I'd rather not do dp+A into qcb+k loops. This seems to do about the same damage I'd get if I tried to do an EX dp+A -> qcb+BD DC combo.

I do appreciate the suggestion and I'll give it a shot, but I am just looking to make playing K' for me a bit more easier.

DJMirror949

I see well I just think K HD Combos are hard to do but it just gonna take alot of practices to do it.

I just checked the damage of my combo today...so it takes 2 drives and 2 super and does 405 damage...Hopefully I'll have my HD Combos down before console comes out since I somewhat have my kula HD combos down.

Demoninja

Quote from: DJMirror949 on September 20, 2011, 10:55:31 AM
I do this corner combo instead (kinda flashy) standing C to Ein trigger to Second Shell to A ver of Crow bite -> Drive Cancel in regular minute spike then you drive cancel to EX minute spike to EX Crow bite or just A ver of crow bite.

Why would you do a combo like this? The normal BNB with him is st.C, qcf+A, f+D, qcb+D, qcb+D, dp+A. You do the exact same thing but you changed the order around so you use an extra DC for no reason. Off the dp+A you can still DC into qcb+BD and get the dp+AC or dp+A.

DJMirror949

I'm horrible on doing narrow spike after canceling my crow bite in minute spike