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==Gameplay Overview== | ==Gameplay Overview== | ||
Geese Howard is a man who needs no introduction. His normally sizable movelist has been slimmed down compared to previous entries; his combos are generally short | Geese Howard is a man who needs no introduction. His normally sizable movelist has been slimmed down compared to previous entries; his combos are generally short and he also has far fewer special moves than most other characters in Real Bout 2, but that's not stopping him from being one of the best characters in the game. Command grabs are incredibly powerful and Geese gets to command grab you from basically halfscreen. That alone would put him close to top tier, but he also has great damage off of small openings thanks to his powerful Pursuit attack that can be set up off of various knockdowns. Geese either outright ignores the rules of the game or enforces them on the opponent to an insane degree. He's the perfect pick for people who can handle having a specialized toolkit in exchange for dominating neutral and offensive prowess. | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image= | |image=RBFF2_Geese_n5a.jpg | ||
|caption= | |caption= | ||
|name= | |input=(within 48px of opponent) | ||
|name=n.5A | |||
|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-RBFF2 | {{AttackData-RBFF2 | ||
|damage= | |damage=9 | ||
|stun=3/12 | |stun=3/12 | ||
|startup= | |startup=5 | ||
|active= | |active=5 | ||
|recovery= | |recovery=7 | ||
|hitAdv= | |hitAdv=+4 | ||
|blockAdv= | |blockAdv=0 | ||
|guard=Mid | |guard=Mid | ||
|cancel=Y | |cancel=Y | ||
|bs=N | |bs=N | ||
|juggle=N | |juggle=N | ||
|description= | |description=The fact that this normal can be crouched under even at point blank combined with mediocre combo potential compared to 2A and 2B immediately erases its usefulness. | ||
}} | }} | ||
}} | }} | ||
{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image= | |image=RBFF2_Geese_5b.jpg | ||
|caption= | |caption= | ||
|name= | |name=5B | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-RBFF2 | {{AttackData-RBFF2 | ||
|damage= | |damage=11 | ||
|stun=3/ | |stun=3/12 | ||
|startup= | |startup=7 | ||
|active= | |active=4 | ||
|recovery= | |recovery=12 | ||
|hitAdv=0 | |hitAdv=0 | ||
|blockAdv=- | |blockAdv=-4 | ||
|guard=Mid | |guard=Mid | ||
|cancel=Y | |cancel=Y | ||
|bs=N | |bs=N | ||
|juggle=N | |juggle=N | ||
|description= | |description=Your primary poke. Its range is good and the recovery isn't terrible, but its damage is low. You have useful cancels off of this, primarily being either Reppuken or Feint Reppuken. Cancelling into Feint Reppuken is difficult to see coming, and frequently gives you enough time to go in with a 4B kara throw. Reppuken will not combo, instead serving as a frame trap that punishes opponents for trying to poke you out of a Feint tick grab. | ||
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{{MoveData | |||
|image=RBFF2_Geese_5c.jpg | |||
|caption= | |||
|name=5C | |||
|data= | |||
{{AttackData-RBFF2 | |||
|damage=9*3 | |||
|stun=3/8*3 | |||
|startup=12 | |||
|active=22 | |||
|recovery=16 | |||
|hitAdv=0 | |||
|blockAdv=-6 | |||
|guard=Mid | |||
|cancel=N | |||
|bs=N | |||
|juggle=N | |||
|description=Slow and really lame multi-hitting palm strike. The priority is alright but this move stays out for way too long and doesn't fill any niche that your other normals don't already do better. | |||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image=RBFF2_Geese_n5c.jpg | |image=RBFF2_Geese_n5c.jpg | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image=RBFF2_Geese_6a.jpg | |image=RBFF2_Geese_6a.jpg | ||
|caption= | |caption=9f Upper body invuln | ||
|input=6A | |input=6A | ||
|name=Buzzsaw | |name=Buzzsaw | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-RBFF2 | {{AttackData-RBFF2 | ||
|damage= | |damage=16 | ||
|stun= | |stun=0 | ||
|startup= | |startup=30 | ||
|active= | |active=5 | ||
|recovery= | |recovery=22 | ||
|hitAdv= | |hitAdv=-1 | ||
|blockAdv= | |blockAdv=-7 | ||
|guard= | |guard=H | ||
|cancel= | |cancel=N | ||
|bs= | |bs=N | ||
|juggle= | |juggle=N | ||
|description= | |description=Horribly slow forward moving overhead. The canned follow-up chain combo into 5C 360A does very nice damage, but pretty much anyone can react and block this or just jab you out of it if used raw. This mostly is useful because the later active frames actually hit low enough that it triggers a bug rendering it unblockable. There are setups to hit consistently with this as a meaty, mostly off of 2C and other similar knockdowns. Overall still not that useful. | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image=RBFF2_Geese_3a.jpg | |image=RBFF2_Geese_3a.jpg | ||
|image2=RBFF2_Geese_3a2.jpg | |||
|image3=RBFF2_Geese_3a3.jpg | |||
|caption= | |caption= | ||
|input=3A | |input=3A | ||
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|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-RBFF2 | {{AttackData-RBFF2 | ||
|damage= | |damage=10*2 | ||
|stun= | |stun=0 | ||
|startup= | |startup=8 | ||
|active= | |active=3,2,4 | ||
|recovery= | |recovery=13 | ||
|hitAdv= | |hitAdv=+4/+7 | ||
|blockAdv= | |blockAdv=-2/+1 | ||
|guard= | |guard=HL | ||
|cancel= | |cancel=Y | ||
|bs= | |bs=N | ||
|juggle= | |juggle=N | ||
|description= | |description=An anti-air attack that is mostly too slow and too lacking in priority to get the job done unless used very preemptively. It has a chain combo followup with 5C 2C that can be further followed up with Divine Punishment, but the sequence is unsafe on block and just outclassed in damage output. | ||
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|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-RBFF2 | {{AttackData-RBFF2 | ||
|damage= | |damage=19 | ||
|stun= | |stun=6/27 | ||
|startup= | |startup=22 | ||
|active= | |active=3 | ||
|recovery= | |recovery=10 | ||
|hitAdv= | |hitAdv=+11 | ||
|blockAdv= | |blockAdv=+7 | ||
|guard= | |guard=HL | ||
|cancel= | |cancel=N | ||
|bs= | |bs=N | ||
|juggle= | |juggle=N | ||
|description= | |description=This move is undeservingly good. It travels a great distance, is plus on block, leads to a braindead confirm on hit, and the kara cancel window is enormous. This kara cancel opens up Geese's pressure and neutral, and other assorted tricks. The basic use for this is to kara cancel (cancel during the forward movement -- before the kick itself comes out) into Vacuum Throw or Rashomon. Once they start playing around this tactic, you can still maintain the upper hand by cancelling into the appropriate counter to stuff their checks, or if they jump over it you will frequently go underneath them and recover in time to punish their recovery. Become very acquainted with the ins and outs of this move -- if you can't use it effectively, just pick another character. | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image=RBFF2_Geese_pursuit.jpg | |image=RBFF2_Geese_pursuit.jpg | ||
|caption=Pursuit | |caption=Pursuit; within 53px | ||
|input=2C when opponent is knocked down | |input=2C when opponent is knocked down | ||
|name=Divine Punishment | |name=Divine Punishment | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-RBFF2 | {{AttackData-RBFF2 | ||
|damage= | |damage=24 | ||
|stun= | |stun=7 | ||
|startup= | |startup=0 | ||
|active= | |active=N/A | ||
|recovery= | |recovery=N/A | ||
|hitAdv= | |hitAdv=KD | ||
|blockAdv= | |blockAdv=N/A | ||
|guard= | |guard=N/A | ||
|cancel= | |cancel=N | ||
|bs= | |bs=N | ||
|juggle= | |juggle=N | ||
|description= | |description=See that 24 damage? Highest damaging pursuit in the game. This move is genuinely crazy good. It sports great range for a pursuit further compounded by the ability to cancel Lightning Spin Kick into it to pick up combos from nearly any knockdown. Unlike every other pursuit (and unlike in previous Real Bout games, oddly enough) there is no whiff animation for this, so a missed kara pursuit usually won't put you in much danger. But like Yamazaki's Todome pursuit, this will throw the opponent behind you on success. This means sometimes you might want to sacrifice some extra damage to keep the pressure going -- so don't always autopilot every knockdown into this. Just most of them. | ||
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|data= | |data= | ||
{{AttackData-RBFF2 | {{AttackData-RBFF2 | ||
|damage= | |damage=14 | ||
|stun= | |stun=5/19 | ||
|startup= | |startup=8 | ||
|active= | |active=3 | ||
|recovery= | |recovery=20 | ||
|hitAdv= | |hitAdv=+3 (+6) | ||
|blockAdv= | |blockAdv=-3 (0) | ||
|guard= | |guard=HL | ||
|cancel= | |cancel=Y | ||
|bs= | |bs=N | ||
|juggle= | |juggle=N | ||
|description= | |description=Your most useful anti-air normal, though even with its solid priority it can still trade at inopportune times. Despite its flaky nature, you still want to maximize use of this both as an anti-air and as a counterpoke in close-up abare situations. Feint cancelling will give you better advantage on hit and safety on block, and resetting an airborne opponent will usually leave them in range to threaten with a kara Vacuum Throw if their first instinct after the reset is to turtle. | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image=RBFF2_Geese_ja.jpg | |image=RBFF2_Geese_ja.jpg | ||
|image2=RBFF2_Geese_ja2.jpg | |||
|caption=Normal Jump/Hop, Diagonal Hop | |||
|caption2=Diagonal Jump | |||
|name=j.A | |name=j.A | ||
|data= | |data= | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image=RBFF2_Geese_jc.jpg | |image=RBFF2_Geese_jc.jpg | ||
|image2= | |image2=RBFF2_Geese_jc2.jpg | ||
|caption=Jump C | |caption=Jump C | ||
|caption2=Hop C | |caption2=Hop C | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image= | |image=RBFF2_Geese_throw3.jpg | ||
|caption= | |caption= | ||
|input=3C | |input=3C | ||
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|bs= | |bs= | ||
|juggle= | |juggle= | ||
|description=Chokehold throw that deals the most damage of any of Geese's | |description=Chokehold throw that deals the most damage of any of Geese's throws outside of Rashomon. It leaves the opponent on the same side, thus making this the throw to use if you want to keep your opponent's back to the wall. You can tack on even more damage with a well-timed Lightning Spin Kick kara cancel Divine Punishment afterwards -- this is much easier in the corner. | ||
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|bs= | |bs= | ||
|juggle= | |juggle= | ||
|description=Basic fireball fakeout. Despite the longer duration this can fake people out during pressure or neutral | |description=Basic fireball fakeout. Despite the longer duration this can fake people out during pressure or neutral. | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image=RBFF2_Geese_41236a.jpg | |image=RBFF2_Geese_41236a.jpg | ||
|image2=RBFF2_Geese_41236a2.jpg | |||
|caption= | |caption= | ||
|input=41236A | |input=41236A | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image= | |image=RBFF2_Geese_41236b.jpg | ||
|caption= | |caption= | ||
|input=41236B | |input=41236B | ||
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== | ==S-Power== | ||
{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image=RBFF2_Geese_641236bc.jpg | |image=RBFF2_Geese_641236bc.jpg | ||
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== | ==P-Power== | ||
{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image=RBFF2_Geese_360c.jpg | |image=RBFF2_Geese_360c.jpg | ||
|image2=RBFF2_Geese_360c2.jpg | |||
|caption=58px range | |caption=58px range | ||
|input=360C | |input=360C | ||
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|bs=N | |bs=N | ||
|juggle=N | |juggle=N | ||
|description=The undisputed best command grab in the game. If you take Vacuum Throw and give it monstrous damage and a hair more range, you get this. | |description=The undisputed best command grab in the game. If you take Vacuum Throw and give it monstrous damage and a hair more range, you get this. It's largely identical in application to Vacuum Throw -- just be warned that depending on screen positioning your opponent might be able to act before you after this connects. | ||
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{{MoveData | {{MoveData | ||
|image=RBFF2_Geese_632146a.jpg | |image=RBFF2_Geese_632146a.jpg | ||
|image2=RBFF2_Geese_632146a2.jpg | |||
|caption= | |caption= | ||
|input=632146A ~ AABBBCCC 214C | |input=632146A ~ AABBBCCC 214C | ||
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===Punch Starters=== | ===Punch Starters=== | ||
*5A, 5B, 5C | |||
*5A, 5B, 2C, 2BC, 4B (Kara) 2C | |||
NOTE: This combo uses Kara divine punishment, which is possible because of Geese's cancellable sweep, cancel into raging storm feint and then 4B and before the kick comes out press 2C when near to get the divine punishment. | |||
*3A, 5C, 2C --> 2C | |||
NOTE: As soon as Geese lands press 2C for Divine Punishment followup | |||
*6A, 63214C, 8A | |||
NOTE: When Geese hits the ground do the half circle back motion, and if the single hit followup comes out press 8A for a vaccum throw! | |||
*2A, 5C/2C | |||
NOTE: Can add extra 2A but usually won't get both hits of 5C, still will combo but if you want both hits of 5C tighten up your timing or omit a 2A, if doing two 2As into 5C it has to be point blank in order for it to connect. 2C after 2A does more damage. | |||
===Kick Starters=== | ===Kick Starters=== | ||
*n.5B, 5C | |||
*2B, 2B, 2C/3C, 2BC 4B (Kara) 2C | |||
NOTE: After the feint raging storm, immediately input 4B, before the kick comes out and you are close to the opponent tap 2C for divine punishment | |||
*4B, 5D | |||
One of Geese's strongest hitconfirm into deadly rave | |||
*4B, 2D 2BC 4B (Kara) 2C | |||
NOTE: Like the 2B starter combo this uses kara cancelling a 4B into divine punishment after a raging storm feint | |||
===Strong Starters=== | ===Strong Starters=== | ||
None | None | ||
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==Combos== | ==Combos== | ||
====Meterless==== | ====Meterless==== | ||
*360A 2C | |||
NOTE: This combo is only possible in the corner, and you have to TAP 2C not hold down, otherwise you will get sweep, does a ton of damage. | |||
====Metered==== | |||
*2A 2A 5C 632146A | |||
= | Here is a combo video of some of Geese's BnBs | ||
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaNSsMlyeKo | |||
==Strategy== | ==Strategy== |
Latest revision as of 19:49, 9 November 2023
Gameplay Overview
Geese Howard is a man who needs no introduction. His normally sizable movelist has been slimmed down compared to previous entries; his combos are generally short and he also has far fewer special moves than most other characters in Real Bout 2, but that's not stopping him from being one of the best characters in the game. Command grabs are incredibly powerful and Geese gets to command grab you from basically halfscreen. That alone would put him close to top tier, but he also has great damage off of small openings thanks to his powerful Pursuit attack that can be set up off of various knockdowns. Geese either outright ignores the rules of the game or enforces them on the opponent to an insane degree. He's the perfect pick for people who can handle having a specialized toolkit in exchange for dominating neutral and offensive prowess.
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Normals
Standing
5A |
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n.5A (within 48px of opponent) |
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5B |
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n.5B (within 43px of opponent) |
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5C |
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n.5C (within 70px of opponent) |
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Crouching
2A |
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2B |
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2C |
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Command
Buzzsaw 6A |
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Rising Palm 3A |
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Lightning Spin Kick 4B |
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Divine Punishment 2C when opponent is knocked down |
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Slash Uppercut 5AB |
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Jumping
j.A |
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j.B |
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j.C |
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Oversway Actions
5D (opponent in oversway) |
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2D (opponent in oversway) |
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A (from oversway) |
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B (from oversway) |
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C (from oversway) |
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Throw
Clamp of the Tiger 4/6C |
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Fatal Blow Bopper 632C during Clamp of the Tiger |
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Mauling Tiger Crunch 3C |
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Feints
Feint Reppuken 2AC |
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Feint Raging Storm 2BC |
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Special Moves
Reppuken 214A |
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Double Reppuken 214C |
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Palm Blast 41236A |
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Dragon Throw 41236B |
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Push of the Tiger 41236C |
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Vacuum Throw 360A |
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S-Power
Raging Storm 641236BC |
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P-Power
Rashomon 360C |
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Deadly Rave 632146A ~ AABBBCCC 214C |
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Chain Attacks
Punch Starters
- 5A, 5B, 5C
- 5A, 5B, 2C, 2BC, 4B (Kara) 2C
NOTE: This combo uses Kara divine punishment, which is possible because of Geese's cancellable sweep, cancel into raging storm feint and then 4B and before the kick comes out press 2C when near to get the divine punishment.
- 3A, 5C, 2C --> 2C
NOTE: As soon as Geese lands press 2C for Divine Punishment followup
- 6A, 63214C, 8A
NOTE: When Geese hits the ground do the half circle back motion, and if the single hit followup comes out press 8A for a vaccum throw!
- 2A, 5C/2C
NOTE: Can add extra 2A but usually won't get both hits of 5C, still will combo but if you want both hits of 5C tighten up your timing or omit a 2A, if doing two 2As into 5C it has to be point blank in order for it to connect. 2C after 2A does more damage.
Kick Starters
- n.5B, 5C
- 2B, 2B, 2C/3C, 2BC 4B (Kara) 2C
NOTE: After the feint raging storm, immediately input 4B, before the kick comes out and you are close to the opponent tap 2C for divine punishment
- 4B, 5D
One of Geese's strongest hitconfirm into deadly rave
- 4B, 2D 2BC 4B (Kara) 2C
NOTE: Like the 2B starter combo this uses kara cancelling a 4B into divine punishment after a raging storm feint
Strong Starters
None
Combos
Meterless
- 360A 2C
NOTE: This combo is only possible in the corner, and you have to TAP 2C not hold down, otherwise you will get sweep, does a ton of damage.
Metered
- 2A 2A 5C 632146A
Here is a combo video of some of Geese's BnBs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaNSsMlyeKo