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| 70 || 7 || 5 || -3 || | | 70 || 7 || 5 || -3 || Fastest Str attack | ||
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| 75 || 10 || 14 || -8 || | | 75 || 10 || 14 || -8 || Now kara-cancellable | ||
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! | !An Cou de Pied Ann | ||
| 40 || 6 || 15 || -9 || | | 40 || 6 || 15 || -9 || | ||
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! | !Manier (throw) | ||
| 100 || 0 || 1 || - || | | 100 || 0 || 1 || - || | ||
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!GCCD | !GCCD | ||
| 4 || 0 || 13 || -15 || | | 4 || 0 || 13 || -15 ||vs: Wk 13, Str 17, Jump 17 attacks | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !A Etincelles | ||
| 70 || 6 || 10 || -4 || | | 70 || 6 || 10 || -4 || | ||
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! | !C Etincelles1 | ||
| 50 || 3 || 23 || - || | | 50 || 3 || 23 || - || | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !C Etincelles2 | ||
| 47 || 3 || - || +1 || | | 47 || 3 || - || +1 || | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !Mistral | ||
| 150 || 0 || 7 || - || | | 150 || 0 || 7 || - ||Whiff 37 | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !A Coup De Vent | ||
| 50 || 6 || 13 || -4 || | | 50 || 6 || 13 || -4 || | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !A Coup De Vent (high) | ||
| 35 || 6 || 13 || -4 || | | 35 || 6 || 13 || -4 ||When hitbox high | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !C Coup De Vent | ||
| 60 || 6 || 18 || -8 || | | 60 || 6 || 18 || -8 || | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !Reverie Geler | ||
| 0 || 0 || 1-16 || - || | | 0 || 0 || 1-16 || - ||Full animation 30 | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !Reverie Prier | ||
| 0 || 0 || - || - || | | 0 || 0 || - || - ||Full animation 37 | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !Reverie Souhaiter | ||
| 0 || 0 || - || - || | | 0 || 0 || - || - ||Full animation 28 | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !EX Etincelles1 | ||
| 60 || 0 || 11 || - || | | 60 || 0 || 11 || - || | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !EX Etincelles2,3 | ||
| 60 || 0 || - || +12 || | | 60 || 0 || - || +12 || | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !EX Mistral | ||
| 100 || 0 || 5 || - || | | 100 || 0 || 5 || - ||Whiff 35 | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !EX Coup De Vent | ||
| 80 || 0 || 13 || -10 || | | 80 || 0 || 13 || -10 || | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !EX Reverie Geler | ||
| 0 || 0 || 1-16 || - || | | 0 || 0 || 1-16 || - ||As 1 hit, Full animation 35 | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !EX Reverie Prier | ||
| 0 || 0 || - || -|| | | 0 || 0 || - || -||Full animation 37 | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !EX Reverie Souhaiter | ||
| 0 || 0 || - || - || | | 0 || 0 || - || - ||Full animation 28 | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !Noble Blanche1 | ||
| 20 || 0 || 40(11) || - || | | 20 || 0 || 40(11) || - ||Freeze 29 | ||
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! | !Noble Blanche2-9 | ||
| 20 || 0 || - || - || | | 20 || 0 || - || - || | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !Grand Rafale1 | ||
| 30 || 0 || 35(6)-38(9) || - || | | 30 || 0 || 35(6)-38(9) || - ||Freeze 29, Distance change on start | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !Grand Rafale2-9 | ||
| 10 || 0 || - || - || | | 10 || 0 || - || - || | ||
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! | !Grand Rafale10-14 | ||
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! | !Grand Rafale15 | ||
| 40 || 0 || - || - || | | 40 || 0 || - || - || | ||
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! | !EX Noble Blanche1 | ||
| 20 || 0 || 39(10) || - || | | 20 || 0 || 39(10) || - ||Freeze 29 | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !EX Noble Blanche2-14 | ||
| 20 || 0 || - || - || | | 20 || 0 || - || - || | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !EX Noble BlancheB15 | ||
| 60 || 0 || - || - || | | 60 || 0 || - || - || | ||
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! | !Etoile Filante1 | ||
| 25 || 0 || 1-24 || - || | | 25 || 0 || 1-24 || - ||Whiff 49 | ||
|- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | |- style="color:#003366; background-color:#99CCFF;" align="left" | ||
! | !Etoile Filante2-19 | ||
| 25 || 0 || - || - || | | 25 || 0 || - || - || | ||
|} | |} |
Revision as of 11:28, 24 May 2012
0 Stock, No Drive Gauge |
Low, Anywhere |
c.B, c.A xx dp+A, dp+A, j.C |
1 Stock, No Drive Gauge |
Anywhere |
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P |
1 Stock, 1 Drive Gauge |
Anywhere |
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC, qcf+K xx qcf+C, dp+A, j.C |
Console Changes
- Etincelle (qcf+P) builds up less meter
- Ex Reverie-Geler (qcb+P) has a longer recovery time on a success. Because of that, normal moves can’t be used to make an additional hit. The recovery time can be canceled with a special.
- An Ex version of her Reverie-Souhaiter (qcb+K) and Reverie-Prier (qcf+K) have been added in the game. It’s invincible while in movement and cancelable with a special. What’s more, the special will automatically come out as an Ex version without the cost of a meter. However, supers are an exception and will not turn into an Ex.
- Grand Rafale’s (qcf,hcb+P) damage has been dropped from 200 to 150.
- Noble-Blanche (qcf*2+P) has longer invincibility.
- Ex Noble-Blanche’s hitbox has been changed so that it’s easier to get in all the multiple hits. With this change, it lands full hit in the corner.
- Grand Rafale has more Max cancelable frames.
Producer Yamamoto says: With the new Ex version of Reverie-souhaiter and Reverie-prier, she has more options for attacks. It can even be used as a sort of running throw with Mistral (hcb~f+P), so please try things out. Grand Rafale’s damage has been reduced to 150, but it can be Max canceled even after the first hit now. Also, Noble-Blanche can be Max canceled as well, so it can be used in various situations such as the finishing touch on combos.
Gameplay Overview
Elisabeth is a powerhouse character that revolves around punishing, counters, and juggles. She is a very scary character to jump-in against because of her ability to connect almost anything into Grand Rafale DM. She can safely build meter and nullify projectiles with Etincelles and Noble Blanc. She can avoid and fake out opponents with her Reverie-Souhaiter/Prier but also counter them to set-up BnBs/combos with her Reverie-jere. She can mix up in the corner with Mistral command grab and can carry/juggle the opponent to the corner with her Coup de Veine. Her HD combos consists of her doing her dp attack and Etincelles. Her play-style will fit anyone looking for a seek and destroy character, or just a great anchor.
Gameplay Notes
Pros
- Punishes jump-ins very well
- Very fast dp launcher
- Good corner mix-up
- Unique Maneuverability
- Very damaging juggle combos
- Can build meter quick, and nullify projectiles
- Good counter lock-down
Cons
- Homogeneous offensive play-style
- Needs meter to do damage
- No reliable reactionary anti-airs
Normals
Standing
Stand A: Elisabeth’s stand A is primarily used as an anti-air against hops, or poorly spaced airborne special moves, such as Terry Bogard’s Crack Shoot. While you are at slight frame advantage on block, s.A is not a good pressure tool as it will whiff against all crouching characters except Raiden. This can leave Elisabeth susceptible to low hitting attacks; however, the lack of low vertical hit box can be used to your advantage by doing something such as crouch B, stand A (whiff), and then throw or command grab your opponent.
You can cancel her stand A into her command normal forward+B but there’s not enough frame advantage on hit for the two to combo.
- Normal Hit: 25 Damage, 3 Stun
- Counter Hit: 31 Damage, 3 Stun
- Guard Damage: 6%
- Frame Advantage on Block: Approximately, +2 or 3.
- Special Properties: Chain Cancelable. Cancelable on block, hit, and whiff with a Special Move, Desperation Move, Neo Max, and Command Normal.
Stand B: The low and cancelable properties of this move make it good for a simple hit confirm but the range on it is very limited. Due to the fact that stand A whiffs on crouching characters and combined with it's limited range, you can't really apply the low hitting properties of stand B into an up close mix up that other characters, such as Claw Iori, EX Kyo, or Mr.Karate can.
- Normal Hit: 30 Damage, 3 Stun
- Counter Hit: 37 Damage, 3 Stun
- Guard Damage: 6%
- Frame Advantage on Block: Approximately, neutral.
- Special Properties: Hits Low. Cancelable on block, hit, and whiff with a Special Move, Desperation Move, Neo Max, and Command Normal.
Close Stand C: This is Elisabeth’s fastest normal, carrying a good sized hit box that can be used to anti-air hops. It doesn’t cover as much upper vertical range as her stand A but it does cover her hurt box from the waist down. It combos into her forward B command normal, this makes stand C her primary normal for hit confirms. It's also quite good for frame traps after a crouch A, EX Etincelle, or a meaty crouch B.
- Normal Hit: 70 Damage, 7 Stun
- Counter Hit: 87 Damage, 7 Stun
- Guard Damage: 12%
- Frame Advantage on Block: Approximately, -3.
- Special Properties: Cancelable on block and hit only, with a Special Move, Desperation Move, Neo Max and Command Normal.
Close Stand D: Elisabeth does a thrusting kick into the air. It has a relatively fast start up, and carries a good upper vertical hit box but a poor lower vertical & horizontal hit box. It's best application is to anti-air higher jump arcs that close stand C can’t reach, such as normal or super jumps. As I mentioned earlier, it has a poor lower vertical & horizontal hit box meaning you'll whiff this attack on a grounded opponent unless you're right next to them. It's a versatile move and important in her command grab game. If your opponent has become conditioned to the command grab and starts jumping to counter it, you can start using stand D instead to hit them out of the air. If you have meter you can then follow up with her Grand Rafale super for a good punish into a hard knockdown allowing for a mix up after wards.
You can also combo into her command normal, forward+B, but as mentioned earlier her close stand C is better suited for hit confirms.
- Normal Hit: 70 Damage, 7 Stun
- Counter Hit: 87 Damage, 7 Stun
- Guard Damage: 12%
- Frame Advantage on Block: Approximately, -3.
- Special Properties: Cancelable on block, hit, and whiff with a Special Move, Desperation Move, and Command Normal.
Far Stand C: This attack is, primarily, a poking tool because the hit box stretches a little further away from Elisabeth's palm, giving it surprisingly good range. That being said, the vertical hit box is small and will whiff on all crouching characters, except for Daimon, Maxima, and Raiden. This leaves Elisabeth susceptible to low hitting moves, much like her stand A.
Use this normal sparingly, as it is punishable on block and whiff. On hit, you can combo into Coup de Vent and transition into a juggle combo; however, hit confirming from a stray hit is difficult. To make hit confirming from far stand C easier, you should buffer the Coup de Vent motion during the attack animation so you only need to push A, C, or AC after far stand C connects.
- Normal Hit: 80 Damage, 7 Stun
- Counter Hit: 100 Damage, 7 Stun
- Guard Damage: 12%
- Frame Advantage on Block: Approximately, -4 or 5.
- Special Properties: Cancelable on block and hit only, and only with a Special Move, Desperation Move, or Neo Max.
Far Stand D: This is Elisabeth’s longest reaching normal and is her primary footsie tool from close-to-mid range. It’s a really solid poking tool, and can preemptively anti-air opponents from their pre-jump frames. It’s versatile in the footsie game, as the correct spacing can option select a close stand D to anti-air jump ins or a far stand D to poke. The unique thing about far stand D is that it raises Elisabeth’s hurt box off the ground; allowing her to go over low attacks, as well as ground fireballs, such as Kyo’s or Terry Bogard’s.
The only downsides to this move is that it’s not canceable, is slow on start up, and has lengthy recovery time. It can be punished on whiff and block but it's character specific. Generally, it’s safe from a lot of things due to its range and push back.
- Normal Hit: 80 Damage, 7 Stun
- Counter Hit: 100 Damage, 7 Stun
- Guard Damage: 12%
- Frame Advantage on Block: Approximately, -5 or 6 on block.
- Special Properties: Raises Elisabeth's hurt box off the ground.
Crouching
Crouch A: It's the same as her st. A except she's crouching.
- Normal Hit: 25 Damage
- Counter Hit:
- Guard Damage:
- Frame Advantage on Block:
- Special Properties: Chain Cancelable, Cancelable on block, hit, and whiff with a Special Move, Desperation Move, Neo Max, and Command Normal.
Crouch B: A quick crouching kick. It's a pretty good poke that's great for chaining lights into combos.
- Normal Hit: 30 Damage
- Counter Hit:
- Guard Damage:
- Frame Advantage on Block:
- Special Properties: Chain Cancelable.
Crouch C: Crouch light palm attack. The reach isn't too great but the vertical range is decent.
- Normal Hit: 75 Damage
- Counter Hit:
- Guard Damage:
- Frame Advantage on Block:
- Special Properties: Chain Cancelable, Cancelable on block, hit, and whiff with a Special Move, Desperation Move, Neo Max, and Command Normal.
Crouch D: Crouching kick. It's a soft knockdown on hit.
- Normal Hit: 80 Damage
- Counter Hit:
- Guard Damage:
- Frame Advantage on Block:
- Special Properties: Chain Cancelable, Cancelable on block, hit, and whiff with a Special Move, Desperation Move, Neo Max, and Command Normal.
Jumping
Jump A: Jumping light punch. A quick hit in the air, which is good for air-to-air hits.
- Normal Hit: 45(40)Damage
- Counter Hit:
- Guard Damage:
- Frame Advantage on Block: NA
- Special Properties: Hits overhead.
Jump B: Jump light kick. Her best jumping normal for cross ups.
- Normal Hit: 45(40)Damage
- Counter Hit:
- Guard Damage:
- Frame Advantage on Block: NA
- Special Properties: Hits overhead.
Jump C: Light palm attack in air. A pretty good attack in air-to-air if the opponent is close enough.
- Normal Hit: 72(70)Damage
- Counter Hit:
- Guard Damage:
- Frame Advantage on Block: NA
- Special Properties: Hits overhead.
Jump D: Good range, good priority, easily the preferred tool for jump-ins.
- Normal Hit: 70(68)Damage
- Counter Hit:
- Guard Damage:
- Frame Advantage on Block: NA
- Special Properties: Hits overhead.
Blowback Attack
Stand CD: A hard thrust kick attack with excellent reach. Can be whiff-canceled to give her special moves added range.
- Normal Hit: 75 Damage
- Counter Hit:
- Guard Damage:
- Frame Advantage on Block: NA
- Special Properties: Cancelable on block, hit, and whiff with a Special Move, Desperation Move, Neo Max, and Command Normal.
Jump CD: Jumping hard kick which mimics her Jump D with added knock back.
- Normal Hit: 90(80) Damage
- Counter Hit:
- Guard Damage:
- Frame Advantage on Block: NA
- Special Properties: None.
Guard Cancel CD: Guard Cancel Blow Back attack.
- Normal Hit: 10 Damage
- Counter Hit: NA
- Guard Damage:
- Frame Advantage on Block:
- Special Properties: None.
Throws
Manier = b/f + C/D close: 100 damage, throw. Can be broken with C or D. A simple grab then smack.
Command Moves
Cou de Pied Ann (Forward+B): A hard thrust kick attack much like her CD attack. It has excellent reach and is good for stringing standing attacks into special attacks
- Normal Hit: 40 Damage, 6 Stun
- Counter Hit: 50 Damage, 6 Stun
- Guard Damage: 8%
- Frame Advantage on Block:
- Special Properties: Cancelable on block, hit, and whiff with a Special Move, Desperation Move, Neo Max, and Command Normal.
Special Moves
Etincelle - QCF+P
Elisabeth does a swiping attack with her Riding Crop that creates a streak of light. This special move causes a soft knockdown on hit, nullifies projectile based moves, builds meter on whiff, and is super cancelable, but not drive cancelable.
Etincelle is a very versatile move making it one of Elisabeth’s key moves to use in her game. The hit box of Etincelle is the entire streak of light, meaning it controls the space in front and slightly above Elisabeth. At certain ranges, throwing Etincelle out can make it difficult for your opponent to approach Elisabeth. While it can be used to anti-air opponents, it’s not her go-to anti-air move. Although, it can hit crouching opponents, the hit box of this move does not cover Elisabeth from the waist down leaving her susceptible to low attacks. An opponent who understands the range of Etincelle can space themselves just outside of it's reach and then sweep Elisabeth during her recovery.
In the Arcade version of King of Fighters XIII, this move would build quite a bit of meter on whiff. The meter gain in the console version has been significantly decreased, only building a sliver of meter now. The A and C versions of Etincelle build exactly the same amount of meter.
Etincelle can nullify projectile based moves, (Note: you do not gain additional meter for nullifying a projectile) which helps her significantly against zoning based characters, such as Athena or Ash. This allows Elisabeth to play a more reactionary game in these match ups as she can stay stationary, nullify her opponent’s projectiles (while building meter in the process), and force the opponent to make a move.
At neutral position, Etincelle controls a lot of the key spaces in front and above her, making it difficult for your opponent to approach her directly. While your opponent is in the corner, you can stand just outside of their sweep range and start throwing out Etincelles to effectively keep them pinned down in the corner. At this particular range, varying between A and C Etincelle can cover direct approaches or poorly timed jumps. You're not doing this to fish for a stray hit but instead, limit your opponent's movements by controlling the space in front of Elisabeth.
Etincelle can act as an anti-air but are not ideal for this purpose as it can't be used as a realiable anti-air on reaction. It's more of a preemptive anti-air against small hops or poorly timed/spaced jumps. Another bit of useful information is that if Etincelle's trade with an opponent's attack you can recover and then combo into a Coup de Vent juggle combo.
A Version
The A Version of Etincelle has fast start up and recovery allowing you to be more reactive to your opponent’s actions. On block, Elisabeth is at slight frame disadvantage (around -2) but the push back moves her to a safe distance making it very difficult to punish for the opponent. The only known punish is Mai Shiranui’s Neomax and only when Mai's in the corner. On hit, it knocks the opponent away from you causing a soft knockdown, but it also puts your opponent in a brief juggle state. From mid-screen on a grounded opponent, you can juggle into Grand Rafale or super cancel into Noble-Blanche. In the corner, you can combo into any close normal after wards. From mid-screen, if Etincelle hits an air borne opponent you can either follow up with a jumping normal and then go for a mix up after or combo into the A version of Coup de Vent and transition into a drive cancel juggle combo. Depending on when you hit the opponent out of the air you might need to dash forward slightly for Coup de Vent to hit.
In terms of its use within drive cancel or HD combos, it can help extend combos off the A version of Coup de Vent but there are there are other moves that can serve the same purpose and allow for better damage.
This move becomes very deadly on Counter Hit because it knocks the opponent high into the air, while maintaining the juggle state. From mid-screen on a grounded opponent, you can land a jumping normal into a mix up; go for a Grand Rafale juggle after the jumping normal, or instead of doing a jumping normal, combo into the A version of Coup de Vent and transition into a drive cancel combo. The key thing to note is that you no longer need the anti-air hit to combo into the A version of Coup de Vent.
Due to juggle properties of the move, staggering your guard strings into A Etincelle is really good to catch opponents trying to counter attack or jump away in anticipation of her command grab. If you counter hit a poke or catch a jump you'll be able to transition into juggle combos for really good damage. In combination with her command grab game this gives Elisabeth a really dangerous tool set to play mind games with the opponent.
- Normal Hit: 70 Damage, 6 Stun
- Counter Hit: 87 Damage, 6 Stun
C Version
Here are the key differences of the C version of Etincelle from the A version:
• 2 hits
• More damage and stun
• More start up frames
• More active frames
• 2nd hit knocks the opponent higher in the air
On block, both hits form a true guard string; pushes Elisabeth away from the opponent, and leaves her at neutral frames, making this move completely safe on block. The C version of Etincelle allows Elisabeth to the control the space in front of her for a longer period of time, but it doesn’t really allow her to play more reactionary due to the longer start up. Learning to alternate between the A and C version of Etincelle is key; as it will keep your opponent guessing when they try to approach Elisabeth.
The first hit of the C version will knock the opponent the same height as the A version but the 2nd hit will knock them up slightly higher. This is important to know as the 2nd hit’s height allows Elisabeth to combo into the A version of Coup de Vent. This makes the C version particularly deadly, as a stray hit can be converted into big damage and positional advantage.
The C version is not a reactionary anti-air move but because it controls the vertical space for a longer period of time then the A version, it does carry anti-air capabilities. Elisabeth can convert the anti-air hit into the same combos as the A version.
In terms of its use in drive and HD combos, the C version is really good at extending combos and adds a lot of damage to her corner combos.
On counter hit, the first hit has additional hit stun to it, which allows for the 2nd part to hit more consistently during an anti-air. It doesn’t open up new combo opportunities but allows for an easier hit confirm into her juggle combos.
- Normal Hit: 50+47=97 Damage, 3+3=6 Stun
- Counter Hit: 62+47=109 Damage, 3+3=6 Stun
EX Version
The EX version of Etincelle has the same start up frames as the A Version, is active a bit longer then the A version but less than the C version, knocks the opponent up the same height as the A version, and has the quickest recovery among the 3 versions. Despite only knocking the opponent the same height as the A version, the fast recovery allows Elisabeth to combo into the A version of Coup de Vent on a grounded opponent. On an air borne opponent, she can go into Reverie-Sutei and combo into the C version of Etincelle to extend the combo further. On block, Elisabeth is not pushed away from the opponent like the A and C versions, but she’s at significant frame advantage after wards that you can continue offensive pressure safely or set up frame traps.
The EX version of Etincelle is a bit more reliable as an anti-air then the A version, due to its active frames and fast recovery.
There’s virtually no difference between a counter hit and normal hit with EX Etincelle other than a damage increase on the first hit.
- Normal Hit: 60+60+54=174 Damage, 0 Stun
- Counter Hit: 72+60+54=186 Damage, 0 Stun
Coup De Veine - dp+P - A very fast light uppercut that juggles the opponent. A version goes about half screen but can be chained together twice; C version goes farther and can be chained to the A version and has start-up invincibility. Both version can be drive/super canceled on hit. Combos from strong normals and Cou de Pied Ann. Combos into A Coupe de Veine, Grand Rafale DM and jump resets.
(EX) = dp+AC - Has complete invincibility during the dash, goes through projectiles and, when it hits, launches the opponent into the air vertically.
- Drive/Super Cancel-able
- Hit Detection: High
- Damage: 60/80
Reverie-Sutei = qcf+K - Forward dash, has lower body invincibility.
- Cancellable
Reverie-prier = qcb+K - Backward dash, has lower body invincibility. Not only is it good for backing away from the opponent (jump-ins/etc.), it can also be used to bait slow crouch normals that can be punished by her dp. Anytime the opponent throws out a random slow normal, use Reverie-prier to evade it then punish accordingly with her dp + dp follow-ups and her Grand Rafale combo ender.
- Cancellable
Reverie-jere = qcb+P - Instant counter teleport that punishes normals to EX attacks. A version works against air attacks although it's not fast enough to follow-up with a punish so it's more like a quick getaway move or reversal; C version works against low/mid attacks and the recovery is good enough to follow-up with a punish or a throw.
(EX) = qcb+AC - Instant counter that works on high/mid/low attacks. When successfully used, it temporarily locks the opponent in hit-stun long enough for you to start a combo and punish accordingly. When used on an airborn opponent, it automatically pulls them to the ground.
- Cancellable
- Hit Detection: Close High/Mid/Low on hit
Mistral = hcb f+P (close) - A command grab that launches the opponent into the air in a light pillar.
(EX) = hcb f+AC - Launches the opponent higher into the air which allows you to combo afterward.
- Hit Detection: Close
- Damage: 150/100
Desperation Moves
Noble Blanc = qcfx2+P - Elisabeth steps forward and makes a large light energy ball. It nullifies all projectiles thrown at it, good for interrupting jump-ins and breaks opponent attacks.
(EX) = qcfx2+AC - The light energy ball leaves her hand and hits the opponent 12 times. It also carries them to the other side of the screen whether they're on the ground or in the air.
- Hit Detection: High
- Damage: 18x10/20x14+60
Grand Rafale = qcf hcb+P - Light uppercut to a light palm attack in the air. It's obscenely fast so it easily connects after the majority of air-to-air attacks along with her weak Coup de Veine. It can be max-canceled on hit when in HD mode.
- Max Cancellable
- Hit Detection: High
- Damage: 40+10x13+30
Neomax
Etoile Filanto = qcb hcf+BD - Instant counter to full screen light wave attack. When used as a standalone move, it only activates as a counter; when max canceled, it completely bypasses the counter properties.
- Hit Detection: Hit
- Damage: 25x19
Combos
0 Stock, 0 Drive
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 286 Damage, 36 Stun
c.B, c.A xx dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 184 Damage, 23 Stun
j.CD (Counter Hit), dp+A, dp+A, j.C
qcf+A (Counter Hit or Anti-Air)/qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C (Corner) qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 351 Damage, 42 Stun
1 Stock, 0 Drive
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 391 Damage, 36 Stun
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C, dp+A, dp+A, nj.D , qcf hcb+P = 389 Damage, 38 Stun
cr.B, cr.A xx dp+A, dp+A j.C, qcf hcb+P = 292 Damage, 23 Stun
hcb~f+AC, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 316, 23 Stun
j.CD (Counter Hit), dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P
qcf+A (Counter Hit or Anti-Air)/qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C (Corner) qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 441 Damage, 42 Stun
(Corner) hcb~f+AC, dp+C, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 360 Damage, 29 Stun
Notes
- To get two consecutive dp+A's after the dp+C you need to hit the opponent slightly before they touch the ground. To help with the timing, after the dp+C, you can whiff a s.B then whiff cancel into the dp+A.
- From mid screen, if you are trying to land Grand Rafale (qcf hcb+P) immediately after a forward j.C or j.D, it will whiff and you’ll be open for punishment by your opponent. Delay the super just slightly and you’ll avoid whiffing it. A neutral j.D will always put you at the right distance for an immediate Grand Rafale, however, if your dp+A did not hit the opponent from lowest possible juggle point the nj.D will whiff because the opponent is too high. This is why it’s preferable to do a forward j.C to avoid that.
- Using a j.C instead of a j.D prior to Grand Rafale (qcf hcb+P) will net you 1-2 more points of damage but will give you 2 less points of stun. Those numbers are really negligible but if you are keeping track of stun then the difference is worth noting.
2 Stocks, 0 Drive
hcb~f+AC, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 421 Damage, 23 Stun
dp+AC, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 401 Damage, 23 Stun
qcb+AC (Counter), dp+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 296 Damage, 23 Stun
(Corner) hcb~f+AC, dp+C, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 453 Damage, 29 Stun
Note
- With the combos starting with qcb+AC (EX Counter) when you do j.C or j.D you'll need to do a jump back j.C or j.D. If you neutral jump or jump forward you'll put yourself in the corner, which will reverse the motions.
Drive Cancel Combos
0 Stock, 1 Drive
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+A, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 367 Damage, 48 Stun
c.B, c.A xx dp+A, [DC], qcf+A, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 273 Damage, 35 Stun
j.CD (Counter Hit), dp+A, [DC], qcf+A, dp+A, dp+A, j.C
qcf+A (Counter Hit or Anti-Air)/qcf+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+A, dp+A, dp+A, j.C
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C (Corner) qcf+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 454 Damage, 57 Stun
(Corner) c.B, c.A xx dp+A, [DC], qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 317 Damage, 38 Stun
1 Stock, 1 Drive
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC, qcf+K xx qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 477 Damage, 48 Stun
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+A, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 457 Damage, 49 Stun
c.B, c.A xx dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC, qcf+K xx qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 394 Damage, 35 Stun
c.B, c.A xx dp+A, [DC], qcf+A~qcf+K, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 366 Damage, 35 Stun
j.CD (Counter Hit), dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC, dp+A, dp+A, j.C
j.CD (Counter Hit), dp+A, [DC], qcf+A, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P
qcf+A (Counter Hit or Anti-Air)/qcf+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC, dp+A, dp+A, j.C
qcf+A (Counter Hit or Anti-Air)/qcf+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+A, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC (Corner) qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 525 Damage, 57 Stun
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C (Corner) qcf+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 514 Damage, 57 Stun
(Corner) c.B, c.A xx dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC, qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 434 Damage, 41 Stun
(Corner) c.B, c.A xx dp+A, [DC], qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 395 Damage, 38 Stun
Notes
- The mid screen combos involving qcf+AC will carry the opponent from corner-to-corner and leave you in positional advantage with an aerial reset. Check the mix-ups section to see follow ups.
- An easy way to combo dp+A into qcf+A, C, or AC is to roll the stick to forward after the dp+A. It would look like this - forward, down, down~forward+P ~ forward+A, C, or AC. The timing is really quick so you're doing the entire thing in one swift motion.
- You can also end in up~forward to help prevent input overlaps with other special moves.
2 Stocks, 1 Drive
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC, qcf+K xx qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 537 Damage, 48 Stun
c.B, c.A xx dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC, qcf+K xx qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 457 Damage, 35 Stun
hcb~f+AC, qcf+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC, qcf+K xx qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 421 Damage, 23 Stun
j.CD (Counter Hit), dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P
qcf+A (Counter Hit or Anti-Air)/qcf+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P
Close s.C, f+B xx dp+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC (Corner) qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 585 Damage, 57 Stun
(Corner) c.B, c.A xx dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC, qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 494 Damage, 41 Stun
(Corner) hcb~f+AC, dp+C, qcf+C, dp+A, [DC], qcf+AC, qcf+K, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 553 Damage, 44 Stun
Note
- The Grand Rafale DM at the end of the combos is significantly scaled so it's best not to use the extra bar unless you want to guarantee the kill.
Double Grand Rafale Combos
c.B, c.A, dp+A, dp+A, nj.A, qcf hcb+P, c.C, qcf hcb+P = 309 Damage, 28 Stun
Close s.C, f+B, dp+A, dp+A, nj.A, qcf hcb+P, c.C, qcf hcb+P = 364 Damage, 35 Stun
Close s.C, f+B, dp+C, dp+A, dp+A, nj.A, qcf hcb+P, c.C, qcf hcb+P = 410 Damage, 41 Stun
qcb+AC (Counter), dp+A, dp+A, nj.A, qcf hcb+p, qcf hcb+p = 256 Damage, 15 Stun
Notes
- To combo 2 Grand Rafale's you need to first, be at least 2 normal jumps away from the corner that is facing the opponents back. Second, you need to hit the neutral j.A as early as possible to raise the opponent as high as possible before the first Grand Rafale hits.
- What happens is the opponent is so high up that the last 2 hits of Grand Rafale whiff. The result is the opponent slowly falls to the ground instead of the immediate hard knockdown. During this extended falling state, you can combo a normal or Grand Rafale but you can't combo into her qcfx2+P DM or any special moves.
- If you are too far away from the corner you'll have to omit the c.C and just combo into another Grand Rafale.
Hyper Drive Combos
Notes:
- The HD combos listed here can be activated off of cr.Bx2, unless otherwise specified, at the expense of damage
- The HD combos listed here can be made to use more or less meter
1 Stock
Close s.C, f+B, [HD], Close or Far s.C xx dp+C [dp+A [HDC] qcf+K xx qcf+C] x1~2 dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P
Close s.C, f+B, [HD], Close or Far s.C xx dp+C (Corner) qcf+C [dp+A [HDC] qcf+C, qcf+C] x3, qcf hcb+P
Notes
- For an easier hit confirm you can add a f+B after the HD close s.C. The f+B's are omitted to reduce damage scaling
- Using a far s.C in a HD combo will maximize the damage but the timing can be difficult. In order to get a far s.C after the HD activation you need to be holding back to stop the forward dash momentum
- Use this as a guideline to learning the far s.C timing; if Elisabeth doesn't move forward after the HD activation but she does close s.C it means you pressed C too soon. If you get a far s.C but it didn't combo you pressed C too late. Experimenting between these two extremes should help you find the correct timing
3 Stocks
Close s.C, f+B, [HD], Close or Far s.C xx dp+C, qcfx2+P (10 hits) xx Neomax
Close s.C, f+B, [HD], Close or Far s.C xx dp+C (Corner) qcf+C [dp+A [HDC] qcf+C, qcf+C] x3, qcfx2+P (10 hits) xx Neomax
4 Stocks
Close s.C, f+B, [HD], Close or Far s.C xx dp+C, qcfx2+AC xx Neomax (qcb hcf+BD)
Close s.C, f+B, [HD], Close or Far s.C xx dp+C (Corner) qcf+C [dp+A [HDC] qcf+C, qcf+C] x3, qcfx2+AC xx Neomax
j.C, s.C, f+B, [HD], Far s.C xx dp+C (Corner) qcf+C [dp+A [HDC] qcf+C, qcf+C] x3, qcfx2+AC xx Neomax
Notes
- The EX DM (qcfx2+AC) stays on screen during the Neomax so even if you Neomax cancel on the first hit of the DM the opponent will be hit by both the DM and the Neomax at the same time.
5 Stocks
j.C, Close s.C, f+B, [HD], Far s.C xx dp+C (Corner) qcf+C [HDC] dp+AC [HDC] qcf+C (whiff), dp+A [HDC] qcf+C, qcf+C, qcfx2+AC xx Neomax = 1003 Damage
j.C, Close s.C, f+B, [HD], Far s.C xx [dp+A [HDC] qcf+A] x5, j.CD, qcf hcb+P (1 hit) xx Neomax, qcfx2+AC = 1026 Damage
Note
- The 5 Stocks HD combos were created by IGL B.A.L.A
Strategies
Far Range
Spam Etincelles like no tomorrow, does everything from building meter to zoning out your opponents projectiles.
Mid Range
Coup De Veine gets some use here, try to dp every single time your opponent jumps toward you, they'll hate it. Etincelles still can be used but not as much as it can in far range, Reverie-prier can also be used to weave through projectiles because of it's lower body invincibility.
Close Range
Everyone hates Elisabeth in close range. Coup de Veine can be used to juggle your opponent a couple times so they'll be scared to jump especially if you're not afraid to use an EX from time to time. Reverie-jere works very well as a reversal when opponents try a jump-in meaty attack. EX/Mistral can also be used but it's better to use Grand Rafale to really finish the match. EX Noble Blanc is also good but it requires specific set-ups.
Cornered Opponent
Same as close range, to get the full effect use HD mode.
Cornered
Use EX/Reverie-jere to switch places with them then start a combo of your own. Reverie-souhaiter works too because of it's upper body invincibility.
With No Meter/No Drive
With 1+ Meter/No Drive
With No Meter/50%-100% Drive
With 1+ Meter/50%-100% Drive
Mix-Ups & Set Ups
Mid-screen Mix-Ups
1) c.B, c.B, c.A (whiff), whiff cancel into EX/Reverie-Souhaiter:
- EX/Mistral:
- Take a step forward and roll, you’ll be behind your opponent
- Wait briefly and roll, you’ll be in front of your opponent
- Take a step back and do a normal jump B for a cross up
- If it’s EX Mistral you can transition into a combo ending in an aerial reset state or a hard knockdown with Grand Rafale
- A Etincelle:
- If it hits grounded and is a not a counter hit, nothing can be done after wards
- If it hits the opponent out of a jump or is a counter hit, you can transition into a A Coup de Vent juggle combo, and end in an aerial reset state or a hard knockdown with Grand Rafale
- If it’s blocked, you’re at neutral positioning
- C Etincelle:
- If at least the 2nd hit of C Etincelle hits, you can transition into a A Coup de Vent juggle combo, and end in an aerial reset state or a hard knockdown with Grand Rafale
- If it’s blocked, you’re safe but are at slight frame disadvantage
- EX Etincelle:
- If at least the 3rd hit of EX Etincelle hits, you can transition into a A Coup de Vent juggle combo, and end in an aerial reset state or a hard knockdown with Grand Rafale
- If it’s blocked, you’re at significant frame advantage and can transition into more pressure
- A/C/EX Coup de Vent:
- If it hits, juggle combo into an aerial reset or Grand Rafale
- If it’s blocked, depending on which strength of Coup de Vent is used you may be punishable
- A/C/EX Reverie-Geler:
- If it’s the A or C version you may not be able to follow up with anything depending on what you countered
- If it’s the EX version, C Coup de Vent into a juggle combo ending in an aerial reset state or a hard knockdown with Grand Rafale
Notes:
- This set up works by utilizing the whiff cancel properties of Elisabeth’s c.A to make it look like c.B is being special cancelled. If you do the sequence fast enough c.A won’t be visible and Elisabeth will just immediately do Reverie-Souhaiter. This allows you to cancel into Mistral quicker than if you did c.B, c.A xx Reverie-Souhaiter xx Mistral. Using A Etincelle in this set up is also good for catching people trying jump out of Mistral or are pushing buttons
- You can also use EX Reverie-Souhaiter and take advantage of its invincibility frames when doing the above set up. Keep in mind that any special move used during EX Reverie-Souhaiter will automatically be an EX move at 0 meter cost. You can use this for more damaging options should they hit or push the offense by utilizing the frame advantage of EX Etincelle.
2) Combo starter -> dp+A, dp+A, normal j.C, normal j.B
- The normal j.B will cross up
3) Combo starter -> dp+A, dp+A, hyper hop j.A, land:
- Back dash, neutral hop j.B/C/D
- Back dash, throw or Mistral
- Hop j.B for an ambiguous cross up/non-cross up
- Walk forward, meaty c.B or close s.C
- Empty Hop, Mistral or EX Mistral
- Do nothing and bait a reversal or a roll
Notes
- This set up creates Elisabeth's most ambiguous cross ups & cross unders because when you land from the hyper hop A you will be behind your opponent for a brief moment.
- Doing a run upon landing will cause Elisabeth to do a back dash and she'll end up back dashing behind the opponent just as they land.
- Doing a hop upon landing creates the ambiguous cross up. Depending on how you delay the hop, Elisabeth can look like she's landing on the opponent in the same direction they are facing.
- Walking forward creates the ambiguous cross under or non-cross under mix-up.
4) Combo starter -> dp+A, dp+A, hop j.A, land:
- Run and cross under your opponent, meaty close s.C or c.B
- Run and stop in front of your opponent, meaty close s.C or c.B.
- Either of the above option into a tick throw or Mistral.
5) Combo starter -> dp+A, dp+A, sj.C, land:
- Reverie-Sutei/Prier xx Coup de Vent
Note
- When Elisabeth lands, she'll be briefly behind your opponent and depending on how quickly you input QCF+K you'll get Reverie-Prier. In either case with QCF+K, Elisabeth will cross under the opponent. You're then cancelling Reverie-Sutei/Prier into Coup de Vent as quickly as possible to capitalize on the cross under.
- Unfortunately, this mix-up doesn't set up the perfect timing for Mistral because the opponent will land just as Elisabeth crosses under so they still have throw invulnerability.
6) Counter Hit j.CD, hyper hop j.D, land:
- Run and cross under your opponent, meaty close s.C or c.B.
- Run and stop in front of your opponent, meaty close s.C or c.B.
Note
- Time the hyper hop j.D as late as possible to make the cross under possible.
Corner Mix-Ups & Set Ups
The brunt of Elisabeth’s damage comes from the corner, as she is capable of running a multitude of high/low/throw games in rapid succession. She also gains additional mind games with the opponent's limited movement options and the threat of Mistral.
1) Guard String -> EX/Reverie-Souhaiter xx EX/Etincelle
- If A Etincelle hits:
- Stand A/C to place the opponent in an aerial reset:
i. Small jump C whiff, land, Mistal or EX Mistral (buffer Mistral during the small jump C whiff)
ii. Small jump B, confirm into a combo or a block string
- If C or EX Etincelle hit or A Etincelle hit as a Counter Hit or Anti-Air:
- Delayed A Coup de Vent into a juggle combo ending in j.C/j.D aerial reset or a hard knockdown with Grand Rafale
2) Combo Starter xx dp+C, dp+A, whiff dp+A
- Stand CD (whiff), whiff cancel:
- Mistral or EX Mistral if the opponent does a tech roll they will get grabbed
- Reverie-Souhaiter xx C Etincelle (Meaty)
Notes:
- The above mix up will only work if your opponent does a tech roll after the first dp+A. Normally, recovering from a knockdown gives you a few frames of throw invulnerability; however, there are no throw invulnerability frames after a tech roll. This set up utilizes this information for an instant grab.
- The s.CD can only whiff at point blank range and this only occurs when the opponent is either knockdown or is doing a tech roll. This makes it difficult for an opponent to detect the command grab.
- You can't use the s.CD whiff cancel as a means to Kara-Mistral as the game will detect the opponent's hurt boxes before you can whiff cancel s.CD in time.
- You can only cancel s.CD during the attack and not at the end, so you can't do Hwa Jai-esque s.CD command grab set ups even on a hard knockdown.
Aerial Reset States
Elisabeth has a lot of ways to convert stray hits into a juggle combo that places your opponent into an aerial reset state allowing you to repeat the mix-ups. The following is a list of the mix-ups after the opponent is placed into an aerial reset state from a sequence of A Coup de Vent, j.A/C/D.
1) Short Hop or Hyper Hop j.B/C/D:
- If it hits, combo into A Coup de Vent, j.A/C/D for the aerial reset
- If it’s blocked, you can do one of the following options:
i. Tick throw or EX/Mistral
ii. Safe block string
iii. Frame traps
2) Empty Jump or Empty Hop:
- c.B:
i. If it hits, link into c.A or s.B xx A Coup de Vent, etc…
ii. If its blocked, refer to point 2 on “Short Hop or Hyper Hop j.B/C/D"
- Mistral or EX Mistral
i. If EX Mistral lands, transition into a juggle combo ending in an aerial reset or a hard knockdown with Grand Rafale
3) Run -> Meaty c.B
- If it hits, link into s.C, f+B, C Coup de Vent, etc… or link into c.A xx dp+A, etc…
- If it’s blocked, refer to point 2 on “Short Hop or Hyper Hop j.B/C/D"
4) Meaty C Etincelle (1st hit whiffs, 2nd hit hits - Corner Only)
- If it hits, delayed A Coup de Vent into a full juggle combo
- If it’s blocked, you’re pushed a character space away and are at +1 frame advantage
Note
- To get the meaty C Etincelle you need to do create the aerial reset state with a neutral hop j.A
Team Position
Elisabeth is versatile enough that she can be placed in any position on your team to counter pick or be moved away from bad match ups; however, the optimal placement of her will be dependent on the rest of your team composition based on meter requirements. She can be a good battery for meter dependent characters like Claw Iori; hold down middle with cost effective 1 bar & drive combos, or anchor a team with 1 touch kill combos.
1st Position
As a starting character, she can build good meter with Etincelle's and juggle combos. In the early-to-mid game of round one, Elisabeth won't be able to deal optimal damage so you'll have to rely on her mix up game until you have meter to work with. This also means that you won't have her reversal options available to you so you'll be in trouble if you get put on the defensive early on. This also means that your opponent won't have meter for reversal options as well allowing Elisabeth to play a more aggressive game at the beginning. Since Elisabeth is meter dependent to deal high damage, create openings, or have reversal options, you'll need to meter manage her early on depending on the rest of the team line-up.
2nd Position
As a second position character, Elisabeth gains full access to all of her offensive and defensive tools that make her a threat that is equivalent to Shen/Claw Iori with Meter. If your anchor character is not meter intensive, you can be more liberal with your meter usage. She can convert stray hits into 20% damage with Grand Rafale's anywhere juggle properties; solid hits will lead into 500+ damage drive cancel combos; and with 4 meters she gains access to her ToD HD combos. On top of this, she becomes harder to pressure with the majority of her EX moves having invincibility frames.
3rd Position
As anchor, her options doesn't change from being a 2nd position character. Since doesn't have to worry about conserving meter at this point and can spend it accordingly. The only major meter management concern she has as anchor is to either spend meter to create openings, escape pressure, or to save it for the one chance ToD HD combo.
Tips
- When Jump A, Jump D, or Jump CD hit successfully air-to-air you can follow with the qcf hcb+P DM.
- st.A, cl.D, and st.C when successfully used as an AA can also lead to the qcf hcb+P DM as well.
- qcf+A when used as an AA can lead to dp+A.
- j.CD and dp+A on counter hit can lead to dp+C.
- If you use her dp and hit the opponent high enough into the air (in the corner,) then follow-up with Grand Rafale. Her stand C can be used to reset the opponent's body then follow-up with another Grand Rafale.
Character Matchups
Andy Bogard
Ash Crimson
Athena Asamiya
Benimaru Nikaido
Billy Kane
Chin Gentsai
Clark Still
Duo Lon
Elisabeth Branctorche
Goro Daimon
Hwa Jai
Iori Yagami (Claw)
Iori Yagami (Flame)
Joe Higashi
K'
Kim Kaphwan
King
Kula Diamond
Kyo Kusanagi (XIII) (mirror match)
Kyo Kusanagi (NESTS)
Leona Heidern
Mai Shiranui
Mature
Maxima
Raiden
Ralf Jones
Robert Garcia
Ryo Sakazaki
Saiki
Shen Woo
Sie Kensou
Takuma Sakazaki
Mr. Karate
Terry Bogard
Vice
Yuri Sakazaki
Move Metadata
Move | Damage | Stun | Startup | On Guard | Remarks |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
s.A | 25 | 3 | 4 | +2 | Short range, but frame adv. |
d.A | 25 | 3 | 5 | +1 | |
far A | 25 | 3 | 4 | +2 | |
j.A | 45 | 3 | 5 | - | |
h.A | 40 | 3 | 5 | - | |
s.B | 30 | 3 | 4 | +1 | |
d.B | 30 | 3 | 4 | +2 | Short range, but frame adv. |
far B | 30 | 3 | 4 | +1 | |
j.B | 45 | 3 | 4 | - | |
hop B | 40 | 3 | 4 | - | |
s.C | 70 | 7 | 5 | -3 | Fastest Str attack |
d.C | 70 | 7 | 8 | -5 | |
far C | 80 | 7 | 5 | -3 | |
j.C | 72 | 7 | 7 | - | |
hop C | 70 | 7 | 7 | - | |
s.D | 80 | 7 | 8 | -3 | |
d.D | 80 | 7 | 7 | -9 | |
far D | 80 | 7 | 12 | -7 | |
j.D | 70 | 7 | 6 | - | |
hop D | 68 | 7 | 6 | - | |
st.CD | 75 | 10 | 14 | -8 | Now kara-cancellable |
j.CD | 90 | 8 | 12 | - | |
hop CD | 80 | 8 | 12 | - | |
An Cou de Pied Ann | 40 | 6 | 15 | -9 | |
Manier (throw) | 100 | 0 | 1 | - | |
GCCD | 4 | 0 | 13 | -15 | vs: Wk 13, Str 17, Jump 17 attacks |
A Etincelles | 70 | 6 | 10 | -4 | |
C Etincelles1 | 50 | 3 | 23 | - | |
C Etincelles2 | 47 | 3 | - | +1 | |
Mistral | 150 | 0 | 7 | - | Whiff 37 |
A Coup De Vent | 50 | 6 | 13 | -4 | |
A Coup De Vent (high) | 35 | 6 | 13 | -4 | When hitbox high |
C Coup De Vent | 60 | 6 | 18 | -8 | |
Reverie Geler | 0 | 0 | 1-16 | - | Full animation 30 |
Reverie Prier | 0 | 0 | - | - | Full animation 37 |
Reverie Souhaiter | 0 | 0 | - | - | Full animation 28 |
EX Etincelles1 | 60 | 0 | 11 | - | |
EX Etincelles2,3 | 60 | 0 | - | +12 | |
EX Mistral | 100 | 0 | 5 | - | Whiff 35 |
EX Coup De Vent | 80 | 0 | 13 | -10 | |
EX Reverie Geler | 0 | 0 | 1-16 | - | As 1 hit, Full animation 35 |
EX Reverie Prier | 0 | 0 | - | - | Full animation 37 |
EX Reverie Souhaiter | 0 | 0 | - | - | Full animation 28 |
Noble Blanche1 | 20 | 0 | 40(11) | - | Freeze 29 |
Noble Blanche2-9 | 20 | 0 | - | - | |
Grand Rafale1 | 30 | 0 | 35(6)-38(9) | - | Freeze 29, Distance change on start |
Grand Rafale2-9 | 10 | 0 | - | - | |
Grand Rafale10-14 | 0 | 0 | - | - | |
Grand Rafale15 | 40 | 0 | - | - | |
EX Noble Blanche1 | 20 | 0 | 39(10) | - | Freeze 29 |
EX Noble Blanche2-14 | 20 | 0 | - | - | |
EX Noble BlancheB15 | 60 | 0 | - | - | |
Etoile Filante1 | 25 | 0 | 1-24 | - | Whiff 49 |
Etoile Filante2-19 | 25 | 0 | - | - |
Videos, Links & References
Elisabeth Master Class
Elisabeth 5 Stocks HD Combos by IGL Bala
Discussion Threads
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