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As an anti-air 623A is easily the best DP in the entire game for that purpose and will beat pretty much any aerial approach an opponent can offer thanks to its disjointed hitbox. Allowing you to follow up with a pursuit or punish a ground tech is just the cherry on top. Proper use of 623A on jump-in attempts will just force your opponents to stay grounded, which is another area where 623A shines.
As an anti-air 623A is easily the best DP in the entire game for that purpose and will beat pretty much any aerial approach an opponent can offer thanks to its disjointed hitbox. Allowing you to follow up with a pursuit or punish a ground tech is just the cherry on top. Proper use of 623A on jump-in attempts will just force your opponents to stay grounded, which is another area where 623A shines.


Tthough it may seem risky to use as a DP as a footsies tool, 623A actually shines brightly in this regard.  623A has a ton of invulnerability, stays close to the ground, advances forward, recovers very quickly, and is only -7 on block and -1 on hit. But it doesn't knock down! Well... This is in fact a good thing. A well-timed 623A will stuff just about any poke an opponent will throw thanks to both the invuln and forward movement usually leaving the opponent standing at +1. This leads to a unique and rewarding RPS scenario for Hon Fu.
Tthough it may seem risky to use as a DP as a footsies tool, 623A actually shines brightly in this regard.  623A has a ton of invulnerability, stays close to the ground, advances forward, recovers very quickly, and is only -7 on block and -1 on hit. But it doesn't knock down! Well... This is in fact a good thing. A well-timed 623A will stuff just about any poke an opponent will throw thanks to both the invuln and forward movement usually leaving Hon Fu at -1. This leads to a unique and rewarding RPS scenario for Hon Fu.


What makes this an RPS are two important factors that work in tandem; 623A's invulnerability and the hit frames being at -1. Simply put, if you hit an opponent in neutral with 623A they are faced with 3 possibilities from Hon Fu; attack/block/Sky of Fire. Hon Fu being -1 means the opponent is technically in their turn though only by one frame. A fast enough button will establish their turn but they risk eating another 623A, which has so much invulnerability that it will typically beat whatever button they start their turn with. In fact, if the opponent keeps trying to take their turn Hon Fu can just keep hitting 623A until they respect it. The opponent can ultimately "win" this exchange by simply letting their turn go and blocking so they can punish the 623A which is now -7. But this now means that Hon Fu has mental frame advantage, which allows him to treat this -1 as a plus situation. This basically means that any raw neutral hit of 623A is never set in stone and your opponent is effectively going to have to guess correctly if they want their turn, in some instances just giving you the turn out of fear of 623A.
What makes this an RPS are two important factors that work in tandem; 623A's invulnerability and the hit frames being at -1. Simply put, if you hit an opponent in neutral with 623A they are faced with 3 possibilities from Hon Fu; attack/block/Sky of Fire. Hon Fu being -1 means the opponent is technically in their turn though only by one frame. A fast enough button will establish their turn but they risk eating another 623A, which has so much invulnerability that it will typically beat whatever button they start their turn with. In fact, if the opponent keeps trying to take their turn Hon Fu can just keep hitting 623A until they respect it. The opponent can ultimately "win" this exchange by simply letting their turn go and blocking so they can punish the 623A which is now -7. But this now means that Hon Fu has mental frame advantage, which allows him to treat this -1 as a plus situation. This basically means that any raw neutral hit of 623A is never set in stone and your opponent is effectively going to have to guess correctly if they want their turn, in many instances just giving you the turn out of fear of 623A.


Lastly, 623A (along with 623C) is a break shot but it actually doesn't do well in this regard. It's best ignored in this capacity, as certain attacking hitboxes just don't mesh well when up close with 623A. Still, in a pinch it's nice to have.
Lastly, 623A (along with 623C) is a break shot but it actually doesn't do well in this regard. It's best ignored in this capacity, as certain attacking hitboxes just don't mesh well when up close with 623A. Still, in a pinch it's nice to have.

Revision as of 13:50, 16 January 2021

Introduction

Spam Sky of Fire A. That's it, that's the character.

Okay seriously, Hon Fu is just kind of okay. He does have some good buttons, decently damaging chains, and a relatively consistent pursuit attack but he doesn't particularly excel in either of those regards. Actually, he doesn't really excel at anything outside of having arguably the best DP in the game with his light Sky of Fire(623A). Thankfully, Sky of Fire is good enough that you can center your gameplan around it, because the rest of his moves are designed to be gimmicky and annoying rather than good. There aren't many things Hon Fu can do that others can't do better so he has to work a bit harder than most, but if you really like Jackie Chan or just like spamming DP you'll have a good time.

Pros Cons
  • Sky of Fire is just that good
  • Good chaining ability and combo damage
  • Can generally get in if he wants
  • Sometimes people just don't know how to deal with him
  • Lame mixups
  • Slow and bad P-Power, despite being a Breakshot
  • All sorts of unsafe stuff, including Sky of Fire
  • It's easy to Breakshot his offense

Normal Moves

Standing

5A
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
8 3/11 4 4 8 4 0 HL Y - -

Excellent range for a far jab. Chains into 5A>C for decent damage but the latter hit can whiff at father ranges. Hitbox is pretty high so it's likely to whiff on smaller characters and those crouching (which is a common issue with Hon Fu).

5B
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
10 3/10 6 5 13 -2 -6 HL Y - -

Decent poke that doubles as a starter on hit, block, or whiff for his 5B>B>C chain; which sends him airborne and ends in an overhead with good blockstun which can be input late for mixup shenanigans. That's assuming your opponent is respecting your offense, however. You can shave a frame off the recovery with an FC.

5C
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
23 6/21 8 3 28 -5 -10 HL N - -

Decent range and damage, but the hitbox ends just before the tip of the nunchaku. Narrows much of his hitbox aside from his extended arm, making this a decent footsie tool.

n.5A
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
8 3/10 5 3 9 4 0 HL Y - -

Hon Fu's fastest standing starter which goes into the majority of his chains, though the hitbox is somewhat high. You'll want to mind the spacing, as Hon Fu's chains can have problems when you're too far out.

n.5B
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
10 3/10 7 4 12 0 -4 HL Y - -

Looks like a low but it definitely isn't. Has a significantly lower hitbox than n.5A and goes into all the same chains aside from n.5A>C>C so it can be seen as an alternate combo starter.

n.5C
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
10*2 4/10*2 8 7 16 3 -3 HL Y - -

Hits twice with a slightly upward hitbox, but it's quite safe and can be made +3 on block and +9 on hit with a feint cancel. Unfortunately due to its upward hitbox, it can whiff easily on smaller characters.

Crouching

2A
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
8 3/10 5 4 7 4 0 HL Yes - No

Not a low, sadly. Basically a crouching version of n.5A with slightly better recovery that shrinks your hurtbox and can link into itself, n.5A and 5A. It's also an alternate starter for all the n.5A chains aside from n.5A>C>C.

2B
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
10 3/10 6 6 9 1 -3 L Yes - No

Hon Fu's fastest low despite appearances, with pretty good startup. The tip of his foot has no hurtbox as well. Another alternate n.5A chain starter aside from n.5A>C>C.

2C
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
23 6/26 8 3 20 - -6 L Yes - No

A cancellable sweep. Hon Fu's most threatening low. The range isn't the best but since it can be made +1 on block with a Feint Cancel this is actually a pretty great tool for Hon Fu.

Air

j.8A
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
9 3/10 5 8 6 - - H No - No

Basically an aerial jab. C Goes into a chain with j.8A>C that you will never land unless someone picks Krauser. This can also be said for his other air chains.

j.7/9A
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
9 3/10 5 10 6 - - H No - No

Slightly better than j.8A and can work as a deep jump in. Hon Fu's only viable crossup without using mid-air turn. Has a similarly useless chain into C.

j.8B
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
10 3/10 6 6 6 - - H No - No

Speedy aerial poke and probably his most reliable air-to-air normal. It's too bad this is locked to his neutral jump. Has another useless aerial chain into j.C. Seeing a pattern yet?

j.7/9B
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
10 3/10 6 8 6 - - H No - No

Decent jump in, and its downward hitbox ensures that's what you'll be using it for but good luck converting off this. And yes, this one also chains into a j.C.

j.8C
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
19 6/21 8 6 8 - - H No - No

A decent, chunky air normal. You can confirm off this one but it can be quite difficult with anything but 5A>C depending on the pushback.

j.7/9C
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
19 6/21 6 2,8 8 - - H No - No

A fast air normal with both an upward and downward hitbox depending on the active frames. While it can technically crossup on its own in extemely rare cases, this is actually pretty great in combination with mid-air turn as it provides Hon Fu's best cross up as a result. It's visually deceptive and quite fast, so it can be very tricky to block well. On top of all this you can confirm quite easily off a hit, though 5A>C is your best bet.

h.8A
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
9 3/10 8 ~ 6 - - H No - No

A version of j.8A that stays active, but the startup is worse. Not much use. For brevity's sake, none of Hon-Fu's hop normals are chainable.

h.7/9A
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
9 3/10 5 ~ 6 - - H No - No

A version of j.7/9A that stays active, and crosses up just as well.

h.8B
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
10 3/10 6 ~ 6 - - H No - No

Similar to j.8B but since it stays active it is arguably better as a defensive air-to air.

h.7/9B
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
10 3/10 4 8 6 - - H No - No

Quite literally a copy of j.7/9B but with a slightly faster startup.

h.C
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
19 3/10 12 4 8 - - H No - No

A nice, chunky jump-in that usually just means a knockdown with a feint cancelled 2C in most cases for oki. Not as active as it looks, and it's quite likely to trade but the hitbox does cover quite a bit of space.

Throws

4/6C
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
26 - - - - - - Unblockable No - No

Standard throw. Will always switch sides, no matter which direction you hold. Thanks to Hon Fu's pursuit attack, you can get a bit more damage afterwards.

3C
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
7*4 - - - - - - Unblockable No - No

Standard throw. Much better when you have the opponent cornered as this version does not switch sides. Like the previous throw you can use Hon Fu's pursuit afterwards for a bit more damage.

Command Moves

3A
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
19 4/4 6 2,9 20 -5 -11 HL Yes - No

May look like an anti-air, but it's not a very good one as Hon Fu's hurtbox is extended to his nunchaku. Despite appearances, this can be made +3 on block and +9 on hit with a feint cancel on the initial hitbox. 3C has two unique chains with 3A>C>C which is an easily hit comfirmable launcher which can end in 623C, and 3A>2C which ends in a safe low sweep. The issue with these chains is at max range the follow ups can whiff, so be careful with your spacing on this move. Thankfully you have what feels like a century to confirm 3A into 3A>C and you should take that time because mashing out the chain means it's possible for the 623C follow up to whiff at midscreen.

6B
Low inv. on frames 7~14.
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
19 6/6 14 3 20 3 -3 HL Kinda? - No

Hon Fu momentarily gains low invulnerability leading into an advancing kick. The low invulnerability is active from frames 7 through 14 and isn't all that reliable especially against very active lows. It's completely safe though, making this a decent footsies tool.

Interestingly enough, the kick itself is not cancellable but the startup is.

Pursuit 2C
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
11 6/6 9 12 26 - - - No - No

Hon Fu's pursuit. Can be avoided with quick recovery, allowing you to play oki mind games. It's extremely consistent and the timing is more important than aiming it, though in some instances you will need to space it especially in the corner (usually with a single backdash).

Side Nunchaku
5AB
High Avoid Attack
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
14 5/27 13 6 12 -2 -2 HL Yes - No

Hon Fu's evasive move, which shrinks his hurtbox a decent amount and has excellent range. It's cancellable but you're not likely to connect with anything at the spacing you'll be using it.

Fake-out Moves

Sky of Fire Feint
4A+C
Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
- - - - 15 - - - - - -

A feint of Hon Fu's DP that would be phenomenal if Hon Fu's normals had better range. As it stands while you can use it with chains at zero range, its best use is to shave frames off your normals and for stagger pressure. As far as feint cancels go, it's one of the best on paper and you should use it quite often as it can make some of your normals quite scarier.

Special Moves

Sky of Fire
623A/C
Light Sky of Fire
Heavy Sky of Fire
Version Damage Stun Startup Active Recovery Hit Advantage Block Advantage Guard Cancel BS Juggle
A 28 5 12 2,2 23 -1 -7 HL No Yes Yes

The move that makes Hon Fu shine. Sky of Fire A (623A from here on) is a move with many aspects, so we'll approach threefold as a reversal, anti-air, and as a footsies tool.

As a basic reversal 623A gets the job done. It has what feels like an infinite amount of invulnerability frames and pretty great block recovery for a reversal as it's only -7 on block which is hardly safe but it's very good recovery for a DP (for comparison, Kim's flash kick which is considered one of the best reversals is -32 on block). The downside is 623A does not knock down at all, but as you'll read later this isn't necessarily an issue.

As an anti-air 623A is easily the best DP in the entire game for that purpose and will beat pretty much any aerial approach an opponent can offer thanks to its disjointed hitbox. Allowing you to follow up with a pursuit or punish a ground tech is just the cherry on top. Proper use of 623A on jump-in attempts will just force your opponents to stay grounded, which is another area where 623A shines.

Tthough it may seem risky to use as a DP as a footsies tool, 623A actually shines brightly in this regard. 623A has a ton of invulnerability, stays close to the ground, advances forward, recovers very quickly, and is only -7 on block and -1 on hit. But it doesn't knock down! Well... This is in fact a good thing. A well-timed 623A will stuff just about any poke an opponent will throw thanks to both the invuln and forward movement usually leaving Hon Fu at -1. This leads to a unique and rewarding RPS scenario for Hon Fu.

What makes this an RPS are two important factors that work in tandem; 623A's invulnerability and the hit frames being at -1. Simply put, if you hit an opponent in neutral with 623A they are faced with 3 possibilities from Hon Fu; attack/block/Sky of Fire. Hon Fu being -1 means the opponent is technically in their turn though only by one frame. A fast enough button will establish their turn but they risk eating another 623A, which has so much invulnerability that it will typically beat whatever button they start their turn with. In fact, if the opponent keeps trying to take their turn Hon Fu can just keep hitting 623A until they respect it. The opponent can ultimately "win" this exchange by simply letting their turn go and blocking so they can punish the 623A which is now -7. But this now means that Hon Fu has mental frame advantage, which allows him to treat this -1 as a plus situation. This basically means that any raw neutral hit of 623A is never set in stone and your opponent is effectively going to have to guess correctly if they want their turn, in many instances just giving you the turn out of fear of 623A.

Lastly, 623A (along with 623C) is a break shot but it actually doesn't do well in this regard. It's best ignored in this capacity, as certain attacking hitboxes just don't mesh well when up close with 623A. Still, in a pinch it's nice to have.

C 38*2 2*2 12 1,3 29 BAD DAY VERY BAD DAY HL No Yes Yes

Outside of chain combos you will never use this. It functions similarly to 623A and technically has more upward hitboxes, but 623C sends Hon Fu flying to what is certain death on recovery as the invulnerability is nowhere near as good. It's death even on hit as it still doesn't knock down and the opponent recovers while you're up in the sky. The added height doesn't even help with anti-airs so just stick to 623A which is way more reliable in every conceivable manner. If you somehow use this as a breakshot I'm so sorry.

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