The King of Fighters XIII/Saiki

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Gameplay Overview

Gameplay Notes

Pros

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Cons

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Normals

Standing

s.A: 25 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. Your typical stand jab. Nothing special, half decent against hop in attempts which it will be used mainly for, but other than that, not that great. Whiffs on crouchers as well.

s.B: 30 damage, cancel-able, hits low. Not a terrible move. Decently quick, and it does hit low from a standing position which can be tricky for some to deal with especially after hop in pressure. Range is bad though. Use it every so often to keep your opponent honest while you're standing.

s.C: 70 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. For the time being, the main go to when canceling into Saiki's specials. Also a somewhat solid reactionary anti-air, made better by being Special cancel-able. However, be very wary. It can miss on some crouchers. If you're trying to confirm into something big, it might be better to go with the more reliable cl.D as it won't miss on crouchers.

s.D: 70 damage, cancel-able, hits low. A very solid move, a hard hitting move from standing that cancels into anything and hits low? Pretty damn nice. Also it does not whiff on crouchers making this a bit more reliable when going in for something big. Be warned however, it has one weakness. Where both versions of st.C are cancel-able in which you do not have to worry as much about distance as both will cancel, far.D is NOT cancel-able which means if you're off on your distance and you get far.D, you don't get anything afterwards. Be careful about that. Of course, if it's to go into HD mode, you can HD far.D as well so it doesn't matter as much.

far C: 70 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. One of Saiki's better far standing pokes. Being cancel-able makes it all the more better and it's good enough to cancel into HD mode from. It can be a slight bit slow, but it's not a terrible deal. It might miss on some crouchers as well, more testing is needed, but do be a bit cautious with the move. Also, keep noted, Saiki does move forward a bit while performing the move. Now, if he finishes it without canceling into anything, he returns to his previous position. However, if you whiff cancel it during active frames, Saiki stays forward. Not a bad way to sneak up your positioning.

far D: 80 damage, hits mid. Very good poke for Saiki. Great range, moves him forward and during active frames you can actually hop over some characters d.Bs which is very very nice indeed. Good poke to use to keep the pressure on. It's not cancel-able by anything other than HD mode though, so it's something to keep in mind, however getting that long poke into HD if you can predict your opponent's patterns can be a great tool.

Crouching

d. A: 25 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. Meh range, hits mid, doesn't combo into anything that c.B doesn't. At best it MIGHT be a frame faster starting up than c.B, but I'm not sure of that. But it honestly doesn't really do anything of note that is special. Beating hop-ins is what s.A does and does it better so...yeah...

d. B: 30 damage, cancel-able, hits low. Good range (though deceptive, it does not go as far as his foot does, but it still has good range), and cancel-able, and it hits low obviously. However...d.B only can combo into QCB+B and his DPs and QCF+AC. Still solid, but you won't be getting his best stuff off it that often outside of burning meter. However still a great poke to use.

d. C: 70 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. Nice solid move too, mostly used for anti-airs however. It's a bit slow, so it's best saved for either knowing a hop is coming, or reacting to slower jumps. Being cancel-able helps apply meaty pressure if you AA-d at the right distance. All in all, not a bad move, but maybe not the go-to one you need, but Saiki's advantage is that he has a lot of normals to do different things, and this has its own niche.

d. D: 80 damage, whiff/cancel-able, hits low. Saiki's sweep, and it's a solid enough sweep. Solid range, and you can cancel into Specials to keep safe. It also moves him forward, but unlike his far C, he maintains his forward position with or without the cancel so keep that in mind.

Jumping

j. A: 40 (45) damage, hits overhead. Surprisingly a decent hop in move. A good downward angle and it's cancel-able into his air command normals giving you a better confirm off of it, but only off of jumps and not hops. Good to use it to mix things up since Saiki has good all around air normals.

j. B: 40 (45) damage, hits overhead. Probably your best air to air move, and it's still not a terrible way to jump in. Has an amazing horizontal hitbox which, unlike his c.B, goes as far as the foot goes. It can win a lot of air to air battles especially if done early. It can also crossup standing opponents but it's a bit hard to combo after. Be forewarned, this thing does misses on crouchers as Saiki hits the ground before he hits the opponent. This can be bad AND good in a sense. Bad because...we just missed, but it can be used for tricky high-low setups if your opponent gets antsy and goes to block high late.

j. C: 70 (72) damage, cancel-able, hits overhead. This is probably the worst of Saiki's air normals, but it's not...terrible by any means it's just...it doesn't have the horizontal hitbox like j.B so it won't win as many air to airs, it misses on crouchers and doesn't have the vertical hitbox like j.A so being cancel-able isn't as helpful either. It does do the most damage though outside of his j.CD so...there's an upside...

j. D: 68 (70) damage, hits overhead. Probably your go to Aerial Normal. It's certainly the best one you have for jumping in. It has a damn good hitbox in both the vertical and horizontal which means jumping in from farther out isn't much of a problem and it can win its share of air to airs (though again, j.B is a lot safer to go with). And it's a solid hop normal too. Only downside is that you can't do it as late as some of his other normals while hopping, which is remedied by...you know, using j.A when you wanna do a hop normal late. All and all, great move.

Blowback Attack

CD: 75 damage, whiff/cancel-able, hits mid. Saiki's Standing Blowback. You probably won't be using this move too much outside of Guard Cancels, it's a decent move though. It's a bit telegraphed however. Best used to whiff cancel forward like far C since it goes the furthest distance of the three normals.

j. CD: 80 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. A very tricky jumping blowback. It's not unlike his standing one in terms of animation, but you're more likely to use this one raw. It has a tricky hitbox which can do some nasty crossups if the opponent isn't careful. It can seem like Saiki's already past you and won't do anything then BOOM, you just got hit by a j.CD and it has this weird vortex where the opponent goes where Saiki was arcing. So if you hit them from behind, they'll go the way you're jumping and right past you. So you can't use this to put people back in the corner if your back is to it but you can get someone coming out of it. It's also cancel-able so that helps a bit as well.

GCCD: 10 damage, hits mid.

Throws

Sha = b/f + C/D close

Command Moves

In (in air) = f+a

Hatsu (in air) = f+b: 50 damage, hits mid.

• Saiki's only command normals, and they happen to be in the air. They're decent, they do change his trajectory in the air, so say you start your super jump and you see something you don't like, immediately j.4B to hit the brakes. On the other hand, you jump and see you just don't got the distance, use j.6B to give yourself that extra little push. The hitbox isn't great at times, and you can whiff (but unlike j.B, it can hit crouchers because they halt Saiki's momentum before touching the ground so it will stay active) depending on where you are. Also...it has one bad downside. Unlike all his other air normals where you can do a normal immediately after touching the ground, you have some recovery off of these moves and it's not instant, meaning it's a lot more of a pain to combo off of these normals which means you have to hit it deep and low and still hope. It has more use as a movement option.

Special Attacks

Kiyoku no Tsuki = (qcf+P) - A Version is a projectile that goes across the screen at a leisurely pace. C Version is a burst projectile at Saiki's head and a bit above.

(EX) = qcf+A+C: is two quick multi-hitting bursts, one hitting low and mid, and the other mid and high, allowing for juggle opportunities afterward

- Super-Cancel-able

- Hit Detection: Mid

- Damage: 60/70/181 (if all hits land on EX)

• Saiki's Fireball and what allows him to dictate the pace of a match. His A version is different than others, in the way that normally characters that have a Fireball have a slow and fast version and whatnot, Saiki only has the A version as the traditional fireball, so it runs at a speed that's inbetween. Slow enough to run behind if done far enough away, but fast enough where it's hard to use for meaty pressure. Still a solid fireball with a very good hitbox. His C version is his anti-air, use it to catch people jumping in too often expecting a fireball. They run into one of these, they stop getting too hoppy. This is also used in a lot of his juggle and HD combos.

• The EX version can be comboed from lights and can start a juggle, however it can be a bit of a pain to follow up mid-screen. As of now, you won't see it being used too much as his meter is better spent on other avenues.

Hanetsurube no Nata = (dp+k) - Both versions are relatively the same. Both have basic Somersault/Flash Kick animations, the D Version goes a bit farther and has two hits. D Version also has followups.

(EX) = dp+B+D: Seems to have faster startup than the two normal versions and around the same range as the D Version. It also hits multiple times and has followups as well.

- Super-Cancel-able

- Hit Detection: Mid

- Damage: 70/78(123)/141(208)

Kazahazushi no Tsuchi = (hold A/B/C/D) during D version or EX: during D version or EX-Does a teleport followup that switches positions (unless directly in the corner) and the follow up is either a Blowback, or a barrage depending if you used the D or EX DP.

• This is Saiki's DP, and a solid one at that. While it doesn't seem to have the overwhelming invincibility of some other DP's (Kyo's for example), it makes up for it in utility. A successful followup after his D or EX version will switch positions, making it perfect for putting opponents into the corner if they're getting greedy on you. It also has some deceptive range so it does well for putting opponents on guard. When following up, it's best to hold D, for two reasons. One, you're already holding it for your D or EX DP, so it saves time. And two, if you hold in say a punch button, and you do it too early it will end up Drive Canceling into his FBs, which isn't a bad thing when you actually want to, but you don't want to accidentally cost yourself 50% Drive for a stupid mistake.

Hiori no Kusabi = (qcb+K) - Both versions have Saiki doing a Donkey Kick (think 3S/MvC3 Ryu). B Version is much faster than D version, but D allows for a teleport afterwards.

(EX) = qcb+B+D - EX version is slightly faster than D it seems, and also causes a Wall bounce (counter-wire) along with the same teleports afterwards.

- Super Cancel-able

- Hit Detection: Mid

- Damage: 60/60/120

Ura Shichiri = (hold A/B/C/D) during D version or EX: during D version or EX-The Teleport after the kick, the teleport varies based on the button pushed. They end up in the same spots as the raw teleports do, so use that to know which followup does which.

• Saiki's Donkey Kick, a relatively decent move. B Version is one of the few things Saiki can actually combo into from his d.Bs making it a quick and easy 2-1 or hit confirm to push the opponent, however it doesn't do more than that. His D version is nice because it allows for a Teleport however it only combos from his Heavies or certain juggles. Best ones to use are C and D. C is best used midscreen to follow your opponent and nail him with a DP, be forewarned. Depending on the distance you hit the Donkey Kick, you might switch sides with your opponent forcing you to flip your inputs for your DP. Be VERY cautious about that. D Teleport is best in the corner, as you follow your opponent in the air, you can hit him with a j.4B and a followup DP or Super on the ground afterwards.

• His EX has most of the same advantages and disadvantages as the D version, except you do not want to use this in the corner unless you like switching positions. Again, his meter would be better served on other things like his DMs or his EX DP.

Shichiri Gake = (d, d + A/B/C/D):

• Saiki's basic Teleport. Goes 4 positions. A version makes Saiki travel a bit backwards. B Version sends Saiki a bit forward. C Version sends Saiki about a half screen forward. D Version sends Saiki a bit forward and puts him in the air at jump height. They have a lot of lag time towards them, are a bit telegraphed (even worse off because you can't attack right away out of them) and they're not that invincible. Use VERY sparingly if at all.

Desperation Moves

Washiba Otoshi = (qcfx2+K) -

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Yami Otoshi = (qcfx2+K) in the air -

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Tokoyami no Fune = (qcfx2+P) -

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Kyoryu no Ori = (hcbx2+P) close -

(EX) = hcbx2+A/C -

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Neomax

Kasumi = qcb~hcfx2+A+C -

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Combos

UNDER CONSTRUCTION

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Hyper Drive

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Videos, Links & References

Technical Reference

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stY9GVyBHfI

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