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The King of Fighters XIII/Elisabeth Branctorche
Gameplay Overview
Elisabeth is a powerhouse character that revolves around punishing, counters, and juggles. She is a very scary character to jump-in against because of her ability to connect almost anything into Grand Rafale DM. She can safely build meter and nullify projectiles with Etincelles and Noble Blanc. She can avoid and fake out opponents with her Reverie-Souhaiter/Prier but also counter them to set-up BnBs/combos with her Reverie-jere. She can mix up in the corner with Mistral command grab and can carry/juggle the opponent to the corner with her Coup de Veine. Her HD combos consists of her doing her dp attack and Etincelles. Her play-style will fit anyone looking for a seek and destroy character, or just a great anchor.
Gameplay Notes
Pros
- Punishes jump-ins very well
- Very fast dp launcher
- Good corner mix-up
- Unique Maneuverability
- Very damaging juggle combos
- Can build meter quick, and nullify projectiles
- Good counter lock-down
Cons
- Homogeneous offensive play-style
- Needs meter to do damage
- Mediocre Neo Max combos
Normals
Standing
Stand A
Normal Hit: 25 Damage, 3 Stun
Counter Hit: 31 Damage, 3 Stun
Guard Damage: 6%
Special Properties: Chain Cancelable. Cancelable on block, hit, and whiff with a Special Move, Desperation Move, Neo Max, and Command Normal.
Frame Advantage on Block: Approximately, +2 or 3.
Analysis:
Elisabeth’s s.A is primarily used as an anti-air against hops, or poorly spaced airborne special moves, such as Terry Bogard’s Crack Shoot.
While you are at slight frame advantage on block, s.A is not a good pressure tool as it will whiff against all crouching characters except Raiden. This can leave Elisabeth susceptible to low hitting attacks; however, the lack of low vertical hit box can be used to your advantage by doing something such as c.B, s.A whiff, and then throw your opponent.
You can cancel her s.A into her command normal f+B but there’s not enough frame advantage on hit for the two to combo.
Stand B:
Normal Hit: 30 Damage, 3 Stun
Counter Hit: 37 Damage, 3 Stun
Guard Damage: 6%
Special Properties: Hits Low. Cancelable on block, hit, and whiff with a Special Move, Desperation Move, Neo Max, and Command Normal.
Frame Advantage on Block: Approximately, neutral.
Analysis:
The low and cancelable properties of this move make it good for a simple hit confirm. The range on stand B is very short though, and coupled with the fact that s.A whiffs on most crouching characters, its use for a surprise low in a pressure string is limited.
Close Stand C:
Normal Hit: 70 Damage, 7 Stun
Counter Hit: 87 Damage, 7 Stun
Guard Damage: 12%
Special Properties: Cancelable on block and hit only, with a Special Move, Desperation Move, Neo Max and Command Normal.
Frame Advantage on Block: Approximately, -3.
Analysis:
This is Elisabeth’s fastest normal with a decent sized hit box that can be used to anti-air hops. It doesn’t cover as much upper vertical range as her s.A but it does cover her lower hit boxes. It combos into her f+B command normal making this her primary normal for hit confirms.
Close Stand D:
Normal Hit: 70 Damage, 7 Stun
Counter Hit: 87 Damage, 7 Stun
Guard Damage: 12%
Special Properties: Cancelable on block, hit, and whiff with a Special Move, Desperation Move, and Command Normal.
Frame Advantage on Block: Approximately, -3.
Analysis:
Comes out relatively fast and has a really good vertical hit box. It can be used to anti-air certain jump arcs that close stand C can’t reach. It’s a versatile move and important in her command grab mind games. If your opponent has become conditioned to the command grab and starts jumping to counter it, you can use stand D to hit them out of the air. If you have meter you can then juggle into her Grand Rafale super for a good punish into a hard knockdown.
Far Stand C
Normal Hit: 80 Damage, 7 Stun
Counter Hit: 100 Damage, 7 Stun
Guard Damage: 12%
Special Properties: Cancelable on block and hit only, and only with a Special Move, Desperation Move, or Neo Max.
Frame Advantage on Block: Approximately, -4 or 5.
Analysis:
This attack is primarily a poking tool, as it has surprisingly good range because the hitbox stretches a little further away from her palm. However, the vertical hit box is small and will whiff on all crouching characters, except for Daimon, Maxima, and Raiden. This leaves Elisabeth susceptible to low hitting moves, much like her stand A.
Use this normal sparingly and based on your opponents movements and actions. On hit, you can combo into Coup de Vent and transition into a juggle combo; however, hit confirming from a stray hit can be very difficult. Its better if you buffer the motion during the attack animation or option select Coup de Vent each time you use this normal.
Far Stand D
Normal Hit: 80 Damage, 7 Stun
Counter Hit: 100 Damage, 7 Stun
Guard Damage: 12%
Special Properties: Raises Elisabeth's hurt box off the ground.
Frame Advantage on Block: Approximately, -5 or 6 on block.
Analysis:
This is Elisabeth’s longest reaching normal. It’s a good poking tool, and can preemptively anti-air. It’s versatile in the footsie game, as the correct spacing can option select a close stand D to anti-air jumps or a far stand D to poke. The unique thing about far stand D is that it raises Elisabeth’s hurt box off the ground so it allows her to go over low attacks, as well as ground fireballs, such as Kyo’s or Terry Bogard’s.
The only downside to this move is that it’s slow on start up and has lengthy recovery time so it can be punished with fast Desperation Moves, Neo Maxes, or EX moves during the start up or even fast Neo Maxes on block. Generally, it’s safe from a lot of things due to its range and push back.
Crouching
cr. A: 25 damage, chain/cancellable, hits high. It's the same as her st. A except she's crouching.
cr. B: 30 damage, chainable, hits low. A quick crouching kick. It's a pretty good poke that's great for chaining lights into combos.
cr. C: 75 damage, cancellable, hits high. Crouch light palm attack. The reach isn't too great but the vertical range is decent.
cr. D: 80 damage, (whiff) cancellable, hits low. Crouching kick. It's a soft knockdown on hit.
Jumping
j. A: 45(40) damage, hits overhead. Jumping light punch.A quick hit in the air, which is good for air-to-air hits.
j. B: 45(40) damage, hits overhead. Jump light kick.
j. C: 72(70) damage, hits overhead. Light palm attack in air. A pretty good attack in air-to-air if the opponent is close enough.
j. D: 70(68) damage, hits overhead. Good range, good priority, easily the preferred tool for jump-ins.
Blowback Attack
CD: 75 damage, (whiff) cancellable, hits high. A hard thrust kick attack with excellent reach. Can be whiff-canceled to give her special moves added range.
j. CD: 90(80) damage, hits high. Jumping hard kick which mimics her j.D with added knock back.
GCCD: 10 damage, hits high. Guard Cancel Blowback Attack
Throws
Manier = b/f + C/D close: 100 damage, throw. Can be broken with C or D. A simple grab then smack.
Command Moves
Cou de Pied Ann = f+B: 50 damage, cancellable, hits high. A hard thrust kick attack much like her CD attack. It has excellent reach and is good for stringing standing attacks into special attacks
Special Attacks
Etincelle - QCF+P
Elisabeth does a swiping attack with her Riding Crop that creates a streak of light. This special move causes a soft knockdown on hit, nullifies projectile based moves, builds meter on whiff, and is super cancelable, but not drive cancelable.
Etincelle is a very versatile move making it one of Elisabeth’s key moves to use in her game. The hit box of Etincelle is the entire streak of light, meaning it controls the space in front and slightly above Elisabeth. At certain ranges, throwing Etincelle out can make it difficult for your opponent to approach Elisabeth. While it can be used to anti-air opponents, it’s not her go-to anti-air move. Although, it can hit crouching opponents, the hit box of this move does not cover Elisabeth from the waist down leaving her susceptible to low attacks. An opponent who understands the range can just in front of it and then sweep Elisabeth during the recovery.
In the Arcade version of King of Fighters XIII, this move would build quite a bit of meter. The meter gain in the console version has been significantly decreased, only building a sliver now. The A and C versions of Etincelle build exactly the same amount of meter.
Etincelle can nullify projectile based moves, (Note: you do not gain additional meter for nullifying a projectile) which helps her significantly against zoning based characters, such as Athena or Ash. This allows Elisabeth to play a more reactionary game in these match ups as she can stand her ground, nullify her opponent’s projectiles, and build meter during the process.
At neutral position, Etincelle controls a lot of the key spaces in front and above her, making it difficult for your opponent to approach her directly. While your opponent is in the corner, by standing outside of their sweep range you can use Etincelle to keep the opponent pinned down. At that range your opponent can't directly attack Elisabeth from the front and they can't jump in on her carelessly.
A Version
Normal Hit: 70 Damage, 6 Stun
Counter Hit: 87 Damage, 6 Stun
Anaylsis:
The A Version of Etincelle has fast start up and recovery allowing you to be more reactive to your opponent’s actions. On block, Elisabeth is at slight frame disadvantage (around -2) but the push back moves her to a safe distance making it very difficult to punish for the opponent. The only known punish is Mai Shiranui’s Neomax and only when she’s in the corner. On hit, it knocks the opponent away from you causing a soft knockdown, but it also puts your opponent in a brief juggle state. From mid-screen on a grounded opponent, you can juggle into Grand Rafale or super cancel into Noble-Blanche. In the corner, you can combo into any close normal after wards. From mid-screen, if Etincelle hits an air borne opponent you can follow up with the A version of Coup de Vent and transition into a drive cancel combo from there. Depending on when you hit the opponent out of the air you might need to dash forward slightly for Coup de Vent to hit. In the corner, you can land a rising jumping normal and go for a mix up or a Grand Rafale juggle after wards.
In terms of its use within drive cancel or HD combos, it can help extend combos off the A version of Coup de Vent but there are there are other moves that can serve the same purpose and allow for better damage.
This move becomes very deadly on Counter Hit because it knocks the opponent high into the air, while maintaining the juggle state. From mid-screen on a grounded opponent, you can land a jumping normal into a mix up; go for a Grand Rafale juggle after the jumping normal, or instead of doing a jumping normal, combo into the A version of Coup de Vent and transition into a drive cancel combo. The key thing to note is that you no longer need the anti-air hit to combo into the A version of Coup de Vent.
C Version
Normal Hit: 50+47=97 Damage, 3+3=6 Stun
Counter Hit: 62+47=109 Damage, 3+3=6 Stun
Analysis:
Here are the key differences of the C version of Etincelle from the A version:
• 2 hits
• More damage and stun
• More startup frames
• More active frames
• 2nd hit knocks the opponent higher in the air
The recovery is the same between the two versions. On block, both hits form a true guard string; pushes Elisabeth away from the opponent, and leaves her at neutral frames, making this move completely safe on block. The C version of Etincelle allows Elisabeth to the control the space in front of her for a longer period of time, but it doesn’t really allow her to play more reactionary due to the longer start up. Learning to alternate between the A and C version of Etincelle is key; as it will keep your opponent guessing when they try to make their approach.
The first hit of the C version will knock the opponent the same height as the A version but the 2nd hit will knock them up slightly higher. This is important to know as the 2nd hit’s height allows Elisabeth to combo into the A version of Coup de Vent. This makes the C version particularly deadly, as a stray hit can be converted into big damage and positional advantage.
The C version is not a reactionary anti-air move but because it controls the vertical space for a longer period of time then the A version, it does carry anti-air capabilities. Elisabeth can convert the anti-air hit into the same combos as the A version.
In terms of its use in drive and HD combos, the C version is really good at extending combos and adds a lot of damage to her corner combos.
On counter hit, the first hit has additional hit stun to it, which allows for the 2nd part to hit more consistently during an anti-air. It doesn’t open up new combo opportunities but allows for an easier hit confirm into her juggle combos.
EX Version
Normal Hit: 60+60+54=174 Damage, 0 Stun
Counter Hit: 72+60+54=186 Damage, 0 Stun
Analysis:
The EX version of Etincelle has the same start up frames as the A Version, is active a bit longer then the A version but less than the C version, knocks the opponent up the same height as the A version, and has the quickest recovery among the 3 versions. Despite only knocking the opponent the same height as the A version, the fast recovery allows Elisabeth to combo into the A version of Coup de Vent on a grounded opponent. On an air borne opponent, she can go into Reverie-Sutei and combo into the C version of Etincelle to extend the combo further. On block, Elisabeth is not pushed away from the opponent like the A and C versions, but she’s at significant frame advantage after wards that you can continue offensive pressure safely or set up frame traps.
The EX version of Etincelle is a bit more reliable as anti-air then the A version, due to its active frames and fast recovery but it has no invincibility frames on start up.
There’s virtually no difference between a counter hit and normal hit with EX Etincelle other than a damage increase on the first hit.
Coup De Veine = dp+P - A very fast light uppercut that juggles the opponent. A version goes about half screen but can be chained together twice; C version goes farther and can be chained to the A version and has start-up invincibility. Both version can be drive/super canceled on hit. Combos from strong normals and Cou de Pied Ann. Combos into A Coupe de Veine, Grand Rafale DM and jump resets.
(EX) = dp+AC - Has complete invincibility during the dash, goes through projectiles and, when it hits, launches the opponent into the air vertically.
- Drive/Super Cancel-able
- Hit Detection: High
- Damage: 60/80
Reverie-Sutei = qcf+K - Forward dash, has lower body invincibility.
- Cancellable
Reverie-prier = qcb+K - Backward dash, has lower body invincibility. Not only is it good for backing away from the opponent (jump-ins/etc.), it can also be used to bait slow crouch normals that can be punished by her dp. Anytime the opponent throws out a random slow normal, use Reverie-prier to evade it then punish accordingly with her dp + dp follow-ups and her Grand Rafale combo ender.
- Cancellable
Reverie-jere = qcb+P - Instant counter teleport that punishes normals to EX attacks. A version works against air attacks although it's not fast enough to follow-up with a punish so it's more like a quick getaway move or reversal; C version works against low/mid attacks and the recovery is good enough to follow-up with a punish or a throw.
(EX) = qcb+AC - Instant counter that works on high/mid/low attacks. When successfully used, it temporarily locks the opponent in hit-stun long enough for you to start a combo and punish accordingly. When used on an airborn opponent, it automatically pulls them to the ground.
- Cancellable
- Hit Detection: Close High/Mid/Low on hit
Mistral = hcb f+P (close) - A light pillar instant command grab that launches the opponent into the air.
(EX) = hcb f+AC - Launches the opponent higher into the air which allows you to combo afterward.
- Hit Detection: Close
- Damage: 150/100
Desperation Moves
Noble Blanc = qcfx2+P - Elisabeth steps forward and makes a large light energy ball. It nullifies all projectiles thrown at it, good for interrupting jump-ins and breaks opponent attacks.
(EX) = qcfx2+AC - The light energy ball leaves her hand and hits the opponent 12 times. It also carries them to the other side of the screen whether they're on the ground or in the air.
- Hit Detection: High
- Damage: 18x10/20x14+60
Grand Rafale = qcf hcb+P - Light uppercut to a light palm attack in the air. It's obscenely fast so it easily connects after the majority of air-to-air attacks along with her weak Coup de Veine. It can be max-canceled on hit when in HD mode.
- Max Cancellable
- Hit Detection: High
- Damage: 40+10x13+30
Neomax
Etoile Filanto = qcb hcf+BD - Instant counter to full screen light wave attack. When used as a standalone move, it only activates as a counter; when max canceled, it completely bypasses the counter properties.
- Hit Detection: Hit
- Damage: 25x19
Combos
0 Stock, No Drive Gauge
Close st.C, f+B, dp+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 286 Damage, 36 Stun
Close st.C, f+B, dp+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.D = 284 Damage, 38 Stun
c.B, c.A, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 184 Damage, 23 Stun
c.B, c.A, dp+A, dp+A, j.D = 183 Damage, 25 Stun
(Corner) Close st.C, f+B, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C = 351 Damage, 42 Stun
1 Stock, No Drive Gauge
Close st.C, f+B, dp+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf hcb+P = 391 Damage, 36 Stun
Close s.C, f+B, dp+C, dp+A, dp+A, nj.D , qcf hcb+P = 389 Damage, 38 Stun
cr.B, cr.A, dp+A, dp+A j.C, qcf hcb+P = 292 Damage, 23 Stun
cr.B, cr.A, dp+A, dp+A nj.D, qcf hcb+P = 291 Damage, 25 Stun
(Corner) Close st.C, f+B, dp+C, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, nj.D, qcf hcb+P = 441 Damage, 42 Stun
(Corner) Close st.C, f+B, dp+C, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, nj.D, qcf hcb+P = 440 Damage, 44 Stun
Notes
-The above combos can be done anywhere on the screen
-To get two consecutive dp+A's after the dp+C you need to hit the opponent slightly before they touch the ground. To help with the timing, after the dp+C, you can whiff a s.B then whiff cancel into the dp+A.
-From midscreen, if you are trying to land Grand Rafale (qcf hcb+P) immediately after a forward j.C or j.D, it will whiff and you’ll be open for punishment by your opponent. Delay the super just slightly and you’ll avoid whiffing it. A neutral j.D will always put you at the right distance for an immediate Grand Rafale, however, if your dp+A did not hit the opponent from lowest possible juggle point the nj.D will whiff because the opponent is too high. This is why it’s preferable to do a forward j.C or j.D to avoid that.
-Using a j.C instead of a j.D prior to Grand Rafale (qcf hcb+P) will net you 1-2 more points of damage but will give you 2 less points of stun. Those numbers are really negligible but if you are keeping track of stun then the difference is worth noting.
2 Stock, No Drive Gauge
hcb~f+AC, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C, qcf~hcb+P = 421 Damage, 23 Stun
hcb~f+AC, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.D, qcf~hcb+P = 419 Damage, 25 Stun
dp+AC, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, nj.D, qcf~hcb+P
qcb+AC (counter), st.C, f+B, dp+C, dp+A, nj.D, qcf~hcb+P
(Combo Starter.X), dp+A, dp+A, nj.A (high as possible), qcf~hcb+P, qcf~hcb+P
(corner)hcb~f+AC, dp+C, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, nj.D, qcf~hcb+P
0 Stock, 1+ Drive Gauge
Close st.C, f+B, dp+C, dp+A, (DC) qcf+K, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C
1 Stock, 1+ Drive Gauge
(Combo Starter.X), dp+A, (DC) qcf+A~qcf+K, qcf+C, dp+A×2, nj.D, qcf hcb+P
(Corner) Combo Starter.X, dp+A, (DC) qcf+K, qcf+C×2, dp+A×2, j.C, qcf hcb+P
s.C, f+B, dp+C, dp+A, (DC) EX qcf+P, qcf+K, qcf+C, dp+A, dp+A, j.C
2 Stock, 1+ Drive Gauge
(Combo Starter.X), dp+A, (DC) qcf+AC~qcf+K, qcf+C, dp+A×2, nj.D, qcf hcb+P
(Corner) Combo Starter.X, dp+A, (DC) qcf+AC, qcf+C×2, dp+A×2, j.C, qcf hcb+P
Hyper Drive Combos
1 Stock
(1) st.C, f+B, [HD] st.C, f+B, dp+C, [dp+A, [HDC] qcf+K, qcf+C×1~2) dp+A, nj.D, qcf hcb+P
3 Stock
(1) cr.Bx2, [HD] st.C, f+B, dp+C, [dp+A, [HDC] qcf+K, qcf+C×1~2] dp+A, nj.D, qcf hcb+P, [MC] qcb hcb+BD
(2) s.C, f+B, [HD], s.C, f+B, dp+C, (opponent in the corner), qcf+C, dp+A, [HDC], qcf+B, qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, [HDC], qcb+B, qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, [HDC], qcf+B, qcf+C, qcfx2+P, Neomax
4 Stock
(1) j.B, st.C, f+B, [HD] st.C, f+B, dp+C, qcf+C, dp+A, [HDC] qcf+K, qcf+C×2, st.A, qcf hcb+P, [MC) qcb hcb+BD
(2) (Corner) st.C, f+B, [HD] st.C, f+B, dp+C, qcf+C, dp+A, (HDC) qcf+K, qcf+C×2, st.A, qcf hcb+P, [MC] qcb hcf+BD
(3) s.C, f+B, [HD] s.C, f+B, dp+C, (opponent in the corner), qcf+C, dp+A, [HDC], qcf+B, qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, [HDC], qcb+B, qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, [HDC], qcf+B, qcf+C, EX qcfx2+P, Neomax
(4) s.C, f+B, [HD] s.C, f+B, dp+C, (opponent in the corner), qcf+C, dp+A, [HDC], EX qcf+P, qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, [HDC], qcf+B, qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, [HDC], qcf+B, qcf+C, qcfx2+P, Neomax
5 Stock
(1) s.C, f+B, [HD], s.C, f+B, dp+C, (opponent in the corner), qcf+C, dp+A, [HDC], EX qcf+P, qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, [HDC], qcb+B, qcf+C, qcf+C, dp+A, [HDC], qcf+B, qcf+C, EX qcfx2+P, Neomax
Rear Combo Bug
(Combo Starter.X), dp+A×2, mid j.A
(Combo Starter.X), dp+AC, st.C, qcf+K/qcf hcb+P
(Combo Starter.X), hcb f+AC, qcf+K, qcf+A, dp+A×2, j.D, qcf hcb+P
st.A/cr.B, st.C
Combo Links/Combo Enders
j.X (Air Hit), qcf hcb+P
j.CD/qcf+A, qcf hcb+P
qcf+A (High Air Hit), dp+A
j.CD/qcf+A/dp+A (Counter hit), dp+A
Strategies
Far Range
Spam Etincelles like no tomorrow, does everything from building meter to zoning out your opponents projectiles.
Mid Range
Coup De Veine gets some use here, try to dp every single time your opponent jumps toward you, they'll hate it. Etincelles still can be used but not as much as it can in far range, Reverie-prier can also be used to weave through projectiles because of it's lower body invincibility.
Close Range
Everyone hates Elisabeth in close range. Coup de Veine can be used to juggle your opponent a couple times so they'll be scared to jump especially if you're not afraid to use an EX from time to time. Reverie-jere works very well as a reversal when opponents try a jump-in meaty attack. EX/Mistral can also be used but it's better to use Grand Rafale to really finish the match. EX Noble Blanc is also good but it requires specific set-ups.
Cornered Opponent
Same as close range, to get the full effect use HD mode.
Cornered
Use EX/Reverie-jere to switch places with them then start a combo of your own. Reverie-souhaiter works too because of it's upper body invincibility.
Mix Ups
Mid-screen Mix Ups
1) c.B, c.B, whiff c.A, whiff cancel into EX/Reverie-Souhaiter
- EX/Mistral:
- Take a step forward and roll, you’ll be behind your opponent
- Wait briefly and roll, you’ll be in front of your opponent
- Take a step back and do a small hop normal as a fake safe jump (normal will whiff) to bait certain reversals
- Take a step back and do a normal jump B for a cross up.
- If it’s EX Mistral you can transition into a combo ending in an aerial reset state or a hard knockdown with Grand Rafale.
- A Etincelle:
- If it hits grounded and is a not a counter hit, nothing can be done after wards
- If it hits the opponent out of a jump or is a counter hit, you can transition into a A Coup de Vent juggle combo, and end in an aerial reset state or a hard knockdown with Grand Rafale.
- If it’s blocked, you’re at neutral positioning.
- C Etincelle:
- If at least the 2nd hit of C Etincelle hits, you can transition into a A Coup de Vent juggle combo, and end in an aerial reset state or a hard knockdown with Grand Rafale.
- If it’s blocked, you’re at slight frame disadvantage.
Notes:
C Etincelle is situational in this mix up and should be used when you have conditioned your opponent into certain actions. Due to the longer start up of C Etincelle it’s very possible for your opponent to hit you out of it. Ideally, you want your opponent to twitch at the wrong moment and get counter hit C Etincelle for a much more damaging combo option.
- EX Etincelle:
- If at least the 3rd hit of EX Etincelle hits, you can transition into a A Coup de Vent juggle combo, and end in an aerial reset state or a hard knockdown with Grand Rafale.
- If it’s blocked, you’re at significant frame advantage and can transition into more pressure.
- A/C/EX Coup de Vent:
- If it hits, juggle combo into an aerial reset or Grand Rafale.
- If it’s blocked, depending on which strength of Coup de Vent is used you may be punishable.
- A/C/EX Reverie-Geler:
- If it’s the A or C version you may not be able to follow up with anything depending on what you countered.
- If it’s the EX version, C Coup de Vent into a juggle combo ending in an aerial reset state or a hard knockdown with Grand Rafale.
Notes:
What makes this setup effective is that you are utilizing the whiff cancel properties of Elisabeth’s c.A to make it look like c.B is being special cancelled. If you do the sequence fast enough, c.A won’t even be visible and Elisabeth will just immediately do Reverie-Souhaiter. This allows you to cancel into Mistral quicker than if you did c.B, c.A xx Reverie-Souhaiter, Mistral. Using A Etincelle occasionally in this setup is also good for catching people who want to jump out of Mistral, push buttons, or are alternate guarding.
Alternatively, you can use EX Reverie-Souhaiter and take advantage of its invincibility frames when doing the above mix ups. Keep in mind that any special move used during EX Reverie-Souhaiter will automatically be an EX move at 0 meter cost. You can use this for more damaging options should they hit or push the offense by utilizing the additional frame advantage some EX moves get.
2) Combo starter -> dp+A, dp+A, normal jump C, normal jump B
- The normal jump B will cross up the opponent regardless if they are standing or crouching. Just time the jump B late so that you can combo after wards.
3) Combo starter -> dp+A, dp+A, hyper hop A, land:
- Back dash, small hop j.B/C/D
- Back dash, tick throw or Mistral
- Hyper hop j.B for an ambiguous cross up/non-cross up. Delaying the hyper hop will determine whether j.B will cross up or not. You can combo close s.C or far s.C depending on how deep you land the j.B.
- Do nothing and bait a reversal
Note:
You will land behind your opponent, briefly, after the hyper hop A. Doing a run will come out as a back dash instead, and you will back dash behind your opponent.
4) Combo starter -> dp+A, dp+A, hop A, land:
- Run underneath your opponent and cross them over, then use a meaty close s.C or c.B
- Run and stop in front of your opponent, then use a meaty close s.C or c.B.
- Either of the above option into a tick throw or Mistral.
5) Counter Hit j.CD, Hyper Hop j.D, land:
- Run underneath the opponent and cross them over, then use a meaty close s.C or c.B.
- Run and stop in front of your opponent, then use a meaty close s.C or c.B.
Note
Time the hyper hop j.D as late as possible to make the running cross over possible.
Corner Mix Ups & Set Ups
The brunt of Elisabeth’s damage comes from the corner, as she is capable of running a multitude of high/low/throw games in rapid succession on top of additional mind games thanks to the threat of Mistral.
1) Guard String, EX/Reverie-Souhaiter, EX/Etincelle
- If A Etincelle hits:
- Stand A/C to place the opponent in an aerial reset:
i. Small jump C whiff, land, Mistal or EX Mistral (buffer Mistral during the small jump C whiff)
ii. Small jump B, confirm into a combo or a block string
- If C or EX Etincelle hit or A Etincelle hit as a Counter Hit or Anti-Air:
- Delayed A Coup de Vent into a juggle combo ending in j.C/j.D aerial reset or a hard knockdown with Grand Rafale.
2) Combo Starter xx dp+C, dp+A, whiff dp+A
- Stand CD whiff, whiff cancel:
- Mistral or EX Mistral if the opponent does a tech roll they will get grabbed
- Etincelle or Reverie-Geler
Note: The above mix up will only work if your opponent does a tech roll after the first dp+A.
Aerial Reset States
Essentially, a stray hit can lead into a juggle combo that places your opponent into an aerial reset state allowing you to repeat the mix ups. The following is a list of the mix ups after the opponent is placed into an aerial reset state from a sequence of A Coup de Vent, j.C/D.
1) Short hop or Hyper Hop j.B/C/D:
- If it hits, juggle combo back into A Coup de Vent, j.C/D into the aerial reset state
- If it’s blocked, you can do one of the following options:
i. Tick throw or Mistral or EX Mistral
ii. J.B/C/D or j.CD for better frame advantage into short hop or hyper hop pressure
iii. Safe block string, ie. c.B, c.A, A Etincelle
iv. Frame traps, ie. c.B, slight delay, close s.C
2) Empty Jump or Empty Hop
- c.B
i. If it hits, link into c.A or s.B xx A Coup de Vent, etc…
ii. If its blocked, refer to point 2 on “short hop or hyper hop j.B/C/D"
- Throw
- Mistral or EX Mistral
- Do nothing to bait a reversal
3) Run and do a meaty c.B
- If it hits, link into s.C, f+B, C Coup de Vent, etc… or link into c.A xx dp+A, etc…
- If it’s blocked, refer to point 2 on “short hop or hyper hop j.B/C/D"
4) Meaty C Etincelle (1st hit whiffs, 2nd hit hits)
- If it hits, delayed A Coup de Vent into a full juggle combo
- If it’s blocked, you’re pushed a character space away and are at +1 frame advantage
Tips
- When Jump A, Jump D, or Jump CD hit successfully air-to-air you can follow with the qcf hcb+P DM.
- st.A, cl.D, and st.C when successfully used as an AA can also lead to the qcf hcb+P DM as well.
- qcf+A when used as an AA can lead to dp+A.
- j.CD and dp+A on counter hit can lead to dp+C.
- If you use her dp and hit the opponent high enough into the air (in the corner,) then follow-up with Grand Rafale. Her stand C can be used to reset the opponent's body then follow-up with another Grand Rafale.
Console Changes
- Etincelle (qcf+P) builds up less meter
- Ex Reverie-Geler (qcb+P) has a longer recovery time on a success. Because of that, normal moves can’t be used to make an additional hit. The recovery time can be canceled with a special.
- An Ex version of her Reverie-Souhaiter (qcb+K) and Reverie-Prier (qcf+K) have been added in the game. It’s invincible while in movement and cancelable with a special. What’s more, the special will automatically come out as an Ex version without the cost of a meter. However, supers are an exception and will not turn into an Ex.
- Grand Rafale’s (qcf,hcb+P) damage has been dropped from 200 to 150.
- Noble-Blanche (qcf*2+P) has longer invincibility.
- Ex Noble-Blanche’s hitbox has been changed so that it’s easier to get in all the multiple hits. With this change, it lands full hit in the corner.
- Grand Rafale has more Max cancelable frames.
Producer Yamamoto says: With the new Ex version of Reverie-souhaiter and Reverie-prier, she has more options for attacks. It can even be used as a sort of running throw with Mistral (hcb~f+P), so please try things out. Grand Rafale’s damage has been reduced to 150, but it can be Max canceled even after the first hit now. Also, Noble-Blanche can be Max canceled as well, so it can be used in various situations such as the finishing touch on combos.
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