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<center><font size="4"><b>Athena Asamiya</b></font></center> | |||
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==Movelist== | |||
'''Throws''' | '''Throws''' | ||
''Psychic Attack'': [[image:bk.gif]]/[[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:c.gif]]/[[image:d.gif]] | ''Psychic Attack'': Close, [[image:bk.gif]]/[[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:c.gif]]/[[image:d.gif]] | ||
'''Command Moves''' | '''Command Moves''' | ||
''Phoenix Bomb'': [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]] ( | ''Phoenix Bomb'': [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]] (AIR OK) | ||
'''Special Moves''' | '''Special Moves''' | ||
''Psycho Ball'': [[image:qcb.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]]/[[image:c.gif]] * | ''Psycho Ball'': [[image:qcb.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]]/[[image:c.gif]] (*) | ||
''Psycho Sword'': [[image:dp.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]]/[[image:c.gif]] * | ''Psycho Sword'': [[image:dp.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]]/[[image:c.gif]] (*) | ||
'' | ''Psycho Reflector'': [[image:qcb.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]]/[[image:d.gif]] (*) | ||
'' | ''Phoenix Arrow'': [[image:qcb.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]]/[[image:d.gif]] (AIR) (*) | ||
''Super | ''Psychic Teleport'': [[image:qcf.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]]/[[image:d.gif]] (*) | ||
''Super Psychic Throw'': [[image:hcf.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]]/[[image:c.gif]] (*) | |||
'''Desperation Moves''' | '''Desperation Moves''' | ||
''Shining Crystal Bit'': [[image:hcb.gif]]x2 + [[image:a.gif]]/[[image:c.gif]] * | ''Shining Crystal Bit'': [[image:hcb.gif]]x2 + [[image:a.gif]]/[[image:c.gif]] (*) | ||
''Shining Crystal Bit (Air)'': [[image:hcb.gif]]x2 + [[image:a.gif]]/[[image:c.gif]] ( | ''Shining Crystal Bit (Air)'': [[image:hcb.gif]]x2 + [[image:a.gif]]/[[image:c.gif]] (AIR) | ||
::''Cancel'': [[image:a.gif]]+[[image:b.gif]]+[[image:c.gif]]+[[image:d.gif]] | ::''Cancel'': [[image:a.gif]]+[[image:b.gif]]+[[image:c.gif]]+[[image:d.gif]] | ||
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''Psycho Medley 13'': [[image:hcb.gif]][[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]]+[[image:c.gif]] | ''Psycho Medley 13'': [[image:hcb.gif]][[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]]+[[image:c.gif]] | ||
(*) = EX version possible<br> | |||
(AIR) = Only in the air<br> | |||
(AIR OK) = Can be done in the air | |||
:[http://youtu.be/9mPZ74mOLx0 Athena's Move List Video] | :[http://youtu.be/9mPZ74mOLx0 Athena's Move List Video] | ||
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== Quick Combo Reference == | == Quick Combo Reference == | ||
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Corner<br/> | Corner<br/> | ||
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cr.B , st.A , dp+C = 187 dmg<br/> | |||
st.C , f+B , qcb+D = 225 dmg<br/> | |||
hcf+P , qcb+A , qcb+C, dp+C = 275 dmg<br/> | hcf+P , qcb+A , qcb+C, dp+C = 275 dmg<br/> | ||
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Corner<br/> | Corner<br/> | ||
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st.C , f+B , qcb+BD, run st.D = 303 dmg<br/> | |||
st.C, f+B, qcb+BD, qcb+A , dp+C = 370 dmg<br/> | |||
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| '''0 Stock, 1+ Drive Gauge''' | | '''0 Stock, 1+ Drive Gauge''' | ||
|Corner | |Corner | ||
| | |st.C, f+B, qcb+D, (DC) qcb+K, qcb+A, dp+C = 379 dmg<br/> | ||
hcf+C, qcb+A, qcb+C, dp+C (DC), qcf+B, f+B, qcb+D, dp+C = 407 dmg | hcf+C, qcb+A, qcb+C, dp+C (DC), qcf+B, f+B, qcb+D, dp+C = 407 dmg | ||
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==Gameplay Overview== | |||
=Gameplay | ===Gameplay Notes=== | ||
Athena's play-style combines the elements of powerful zoning, speed, and pokes. Her psycho ball is one of the best projectiles in the game because of it's speed variations and her quick recovery, using it with her Psycho Teleport she can switch sides with the opponent or go right in their face to quickly throw them off. Her anti-airs involve using Psycho Sword and her shining crystal bit DM which also double as decent reversals. Against other projectiles Athena can simply use psycho reflector to reflect them back towards her opponent but also continue to zone them with psycho ball again. Athena has a myriad of tools once she's airborne, Phoenix Arrow works well when you are above opponents, switching between the weak and strong version will further confuse them, you can also Air Phoenix Bomb to hit opponents that are at a lower altitude and also Shining Crystal Bit in the air. | {{StrengthsAndWeaknesses | ||
| intro = Athena's play-style combines the elements of powerful zoning, speed, and pokes. Her psycho ball is one of the best projectiles in the game because of it's speed variations and her quick recovery, using it with her Psycho Teleport she can switch sides with the opponent or go right in their face to quickly throw them off. Her anti-airs involve using Psycho Sword and her shining crystal bit DM which also double as decent reversals. Against other projectiles Athena can simply use psycho reflector to reflect them back towards her opponent but also continue to zone them with psycho ball again. Athena has a myriad of tools once she's airborne, Phoenix Arrow works well when you are above opponents, switching between the weak and strong version will further confuse them, you can also Air Phoenix Bomb to hit opponents that are at a lower altitude and also Shining Crystal Bit in the air. | |||
With enough meter, in the corner her mix-ups and damage potential increases because of her instant command throw (Super Psychic Throw), and her damaging juggles when confirmed of a crouching or standing heavy punch or juggles placed after the Super Psychic Throw. | With enough meter, in the corner her mix-ups and damage potential increases because of her instant command throw (Super Psychic Throw), and her damaging juggles when confirmed of a crouching or standing heavy punch or juggles placed after the Super Psychic Throw. | ||
Her okizeme/wake-up options are quite strong thanks to her normal throw and her Super Psychic Throw which provides excellent space for many different setups. Without meter, her damage from her combos are a bit on the weak side but she can build meter rather quickly from her special moves. Athena does have very decent ground pokes, but her hit confirms into combos are rather short which also brings difficulty in confirming into HD consistently. Overall, Athena is a good character for both beginners and advanced players who are looking for a fast, quick character who has excellent zoning capabilities, decent corner pressure, and good okizeme from her throws. | Her okizeme/wake-up options are quite strong thanks to her normal throw and her Super Psychic Throw which provides excellent space for many different setups. Without meter, her damage from her combos are a bit on the weak side but she can build meter rather quickly from her special moves. Athena does have very decent ground pokes, but her hit confirms into combos are rather short which also brings difficulty in confirming into HD consistently.<br> | ||
Overall, Athena is a good character for both beginners and advanced players who are looking for a fast, quick character who has excellent zoning capabilities, decent corner pressure, and good okizeme from her throws. | |||
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* Great zoning | * Great zoning | ||
* Very Fast | * Very Fast | ||
* Good pokes | * Good pokes | ||
* Great as a battery or as a second character | * Great as a battery or as a second character | ||
* Possesses many powerful options while in mid-air | * Possesses many powerful options while in mid-air | ||
* Has a wide variety of options when the opponent is in the corner | * Has a wide variety of options when the opponent is in the corner | ||
* High jump arc | * High jump arc | ||
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* Weak mid-screen damage | * Weak mid-screen damage | ||
* Weak meter-less damage | * Weak meter-less damage | ||
* Floaty jump | * Floaty jump | ||
* Mediocre HD combo damage | * Mediocre HD combo damage | ||
* Very short hit-confirms into combos | * Very short hit-confirms into combos | ||
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=Normals= | ==Normals== | ||
===Standing=== | ===Standing=== | ||
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[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ef9lsTZlnF4/U9npX_7DzdI/AAAAAAAABg0/WORxKSiKSks/s1600/7.png '''cl. D'''] - 70 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. This high splits kick will come in handy against opponents trying to jump over you outside the corner, jumping towards you while you are in the corner, and to stop and catch opponents trying to escape corner pressure by trying to jump out. It's not chain-able into her f+B though, but it is cancel-able into her special moves. Using this kick is a safer option than the Psycho Sword (dp+P) in the above-mentioned situations because of its really narrow vertical range and its fast start up. -6 frames on block. | [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ef9lsTZlnF4/U9npX_7DzdI/AAAAAAAABg0/WORxKSiKSks/s1600/7.png '''cl. D'''] - 70 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. This high splits kick will come in handy against opponents trying to jump over you outside the corner, jumping towards you while you are in the corner, and to stop and catch opponents trying to escape corner pressure by trying to jump out. It's not chain-able into her f+B though, but it is cancel-able into her special moves. Using this kick is a safer option than the Psycho Sword (dp+P) in the above-mentioned situations because of its really narrow vertical range and its fast start up. -6 frames on block. | ||
===Crouching=== | ===Crouching=== | ||
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[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zAEXdlMD-cc/U9npPvPgL9I/AAAAAAAABeg/KxSEy6ZHok4/s1600/12.png '''cr. D'''] - 80 damage, hits low. This sweep has decent range, speed and it's whiff recovery isn't horrible. It also shrinks her hurtbox down low horizontally which can actually evade a few fireballs, high horizontal normals, and you can also use it to anti-air against certain jump normals from your opponent that may whiff on crouching opponents. It does not have any cancel-able properties at all, so be sure to make proper use of it since you can't do anything about it when it's active. -3 frames on block. | [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zAEXdlMD-cc/U9npPvPgL9I/AAAAAAAABeg/KxSEy6ZHok4/s1600/12.png '''cr. D'''] - 80 damage, hits low. This sweep has decent range, speed and it's whiff recovery isn't horrible. It also shrinks her hurtbox down low horizontally which can actually evade a few fireballs, high horizontal normals, and you can also use it to anti-air against certain jump normals from your opponent that may whiff on crouching opponents. It does not have any cancel-able properties at all, so be sure to make proper use of it since you can't do anything about it when it's active. -3 frames on block. | ||
===Jumping=== | ===Jumping=== | ||
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[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kZN9QfLBjWw/U9npTcf8uXI/AAAAAAAABfg/WDqnCyEObEA/s1600/20.png '''hop D'''] | [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kZN9QfLBjWw/U9npTcf8uXI/AAAAAAAABfg/WDqnCyEObEA/s1600/20.png '''hop D'''] | ||
[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sZ5ifpDIhiE/U9npT_LLEvI/AAAAAAAABfo/DcLJbjdjblk/s1600/21.png '''j. D'''] - 70 (68) damage, hits overhead. Good range, good priority, easily the preferred tool for jump-ins along with her slightly diagonal hitbox. | [http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sZ5ifpDIhiE/U9npT_LLEvI/AAAAAAAABfo/DcLJbjdjblk/s1600/21.png '''j. D'''] - 70 (68) damage, hits overhead. Good range, good priority, easily the preferred tool for jump-ins along with her slightly diagonal hitbox. | ||
===Blowback Attack=== | ===Blowback Attack=== | ||
[http://i.imgur.com/lczZB5r.png '''CD'''] - 75 damage, whiff and hit cancel-able, hits mid. A hard shoulder tackle, good reach, and moves her forward a bit. Whiff canceling it can give some of her special moves some extra range. | [http://i.imgur.com/lczZB5r.png '''CD'''] - 75 damage, whiff and hit cancel-able, hits mid. A hard shoulder tackle, good reach, and moves her forward a bit. Whiff canceling it can give some of her special moves some extra range. | ||
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'''GCCD:''' 10 damage, hits mid. Guard Cancel Blowback Attack. | '''GCCD:''' 10 damage, hits mid. Guard Cancel Blowback Attack. | ||
=Throws= | ==Throws== | ||
'''Psychic Attack = b/f + C/D close''' 100 damage, can be broken, hard knockdown. Athena grabs the opponent, disappears then reappears above them kicking them to the ground. The space between Athena and the opponent is ideal for cross-up setups and meaty attacks on their wake-up, especially since Athena recovers quickly after the throw knocks them down. | '''Psychic Attack = b/f + C/D close''' 100 damage, can be broken, hard knockdown. Athena grabs the opponent, disappears then reappears above them kicking them to the ground. The space between Athena and the opponent is ideal for cross-up setups and meaty attacks on their wake-up, especially since Athena recovers quickly after the throw knocks them down. | ||
=Command Moves= | ==Command Moves== | ||
[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LkXxduzeT1s/U9npUwDPA-I/AAAAAAAABgA/TMIy-Jz1uto/s1600/24.png '''Phoenix Bomb = f+B'''] 50 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. Athena jumps into the the air then does a hip attack making her float for briefly; it has poor recovery if you whiff so try your best to combo into it when you use it offensively. It should be noted that this move is extremely important in Athena's runaway game because when you use it along with her back dash, it becomes much faster and much farther; the earlier you execute it, the faster the dash will be. | [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LkXxduzeT1s/U9npUwDPA-I/AAAAAAAABgA/TMIy-Jz1uto/s1600/24.png '''Phoenix Bomb = f+B'''] 50 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. Athena jumps into the the air then does a hip attack making her float for briefly; it has poor recovery if you whiff so try your best to combo into it when you use it offensively. It should be noted that this move is extremely important in Athena's runaway game because when you use it along with her back dash, it becomes much faster and much farther; the earlier you execute it, the faster the dash will be. | ||
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[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QzffrqNIoIQ/U9npVFfqSyI/AAAAAAAABgM/s6FOX7KARxY/s1600/25.png '''Phoenix Bomb Air = f+B in air'''] 60 damage, cancel-able, hits overhead. It's executed the same way as the ground version except in the air now, a good air to air move if timed correctly (you have to be a little bit higher in the air than your opponent). You can also combo this move from her jump A/C or j.CD if it's blocked. It also retains it's overhead ability when canceled from her jump normals which can be used as a mixup option if the normal his blocked first, then if the opponent is expecting a low attack. | [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QzffrqNIoIQ/U9npVFfqSyI/AAAAAAAABgM/s6FOX7KARxY/s1600/25.png '''Phoenix Bomb Air = f+B in air'''] 60 damage, cancel-able, hits overhead. It's executed the same way as the ground version except in the air now, a good air to air move if timed correctly (you have to be a little bit higher in the air than your opponent). You can also combo this move from her jump A/C or j.CD if it's blocked. It also retains it's overhead ability when canceled from her jump normals which can be used as a mixup option if the normal his blocked first, then if the opponent is expecting a low attack. | ||
=Special Attacks= | ==Special Attacks== | ||
[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-svnHhdrGrvU/U9-kc-yshdI/AAAAAAAACPk/c3Y_7_771js/s1600/Athena.png '''Psycho Ball = qcb+P'''] - Athena forms a purple sphere then propels it at her opponent. The weak version travels slowly across the screen while the strong version goes much faster and does more damage. This move is the key component of her zoning game so use it '''sparingly''', spamming it works only if you have a back-up plan because your opponent will catch on sooner or later. Using it in moderation will keep you on your feet and will prevent you from being extremely predictable so keep that in mind. If your opponent catches on they may try to hyper hop or evasive roll past them to attack you so be sure to switch it up between weak/strong and different moves altogether. It's also super cancel-able as soon as it's executed (as soon as it's released). | [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-svnHhdrGrvU/U9-kc-yshdI/AAAAAAAACPk/c3Y_7_771js/s1600/Athena.png '''Psycho Ball = qcb+P'''] - Athena forms a purple sphere then propels it at her opponent. The weak version travels slowly across the screen while the strong version goes much faster and does more damage. This move is the key component of her zoning game so use it '''sparingly''', spamming it works only if you have a back-up plan because your opponent will catch on sooner or later. Using it in moderation will keep you on your feet and will prevent you from being extremely predictable so keep that in mind. If your opponent catches on they may try to hyper hop or evasive roll past them to attack you so be sure to switch it up between weak/strong and different moves altogether. It's also super cancel-able as soon as it's executed (as soon as it's released). | ||
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* Damage: 125/80+60 | * Damage: 125/80+60 | ||
=Desperation Moves= | ==Desperation Moves== | ||
[http://i.imgur.com/cO1BCiV.png '''Shining Crystal Bit = hcbx2+P'''] also in air, ABCD to cancel - Athena floats while the jewel she's wearing starts to glow then she forms a purple energy shield that covers her entire body for a brief period. There's a good chunk of invincibility at start-up making good for punishing anything from jump-ins to poorly timed moves. Despite the wide hitbox, she can still be punished as soon as the move is done but that's where the cancel aspect comes from; if you whiff this move whether when you're trying to punish someone's attack/jump-in/etc be sure to press ABCD simultaneously to immediately cancel it so that the opponent won't get the chance to punish you. | [http://i.imgur.com/cO1BCiV.png '''Shining Crystal Bit = hcbx2+P'''] also in air, ABCD to cancel - Athena floats while the jewel she's wearing starts to glow then she forms a purple energy shield that covers her entire body for a brief period. There's a good chunk of invincibility at start-up making good for punishing anything from jump-ins to poorly timed moves. Despite the wide hitbox, she can still be punished as soon as the move is done but that's where the cancel aspect comes from; if you whiff this move whether when you're trying to punish someone's attack/jump-in/etc be sure to press ABCD simultaneously to immediately cancel it so that the opponent won't get the chance to punish you. | ||
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* Damage: 210/10x26+60 | * Damage: 210/10x26+60 | ||
=Neomax= | ==Neomax== | ||
'''Psycho Medley 13 = hcb~f+AC''' - Athena does pose then dashes across the screen, if she hits the opponent she summons her past iterations that proceed to ping pong the opponent in all directions of the screen in a pentagram-like fashion thirteen times, after the thirteenth hit the real Athena appears with then summons six guardians holding weapons (a wand, hammer, chain & ball, bow & arrow, mace, and sword & shield) then she points then they turn into psycho balls hitting the opponent at the same time for another thirteen hits (26 hits altogether). The guardians armor color change depending on how many hits you do (gold/green/purple) it seems kinda random though, the start-up for this move is almost instant which means it's very fast making it really good for punishing anything from jump-ins to evasive rolls, or moves with poor recovery. | '''Psycho Medley 13 = hcb~f+AC''' - Athena does pose then dashes across the screen, if she hits the opponent she summons her past iterations that proceed to ping pong the opponent in all directions of the screen in a pentagram-like fashion thirteen times, after the thirteenth hit the real Athena appears with then summons six guardians holding weapons (a wand, hammer, chain & ball, bow & arrow, mace, and sword & shield) then she points then they turn into psycho balls hitting the opponent at the same time for another thirteen hits (26 hits altogether). The guardians armor color change depending on how many hits you do (gold/green/purple) it seems kinda random though, the start-up for this move is almost instant which means it's very fast making it really good for punishing anything from jump-ins to evasive rolls, or moves with poor recovery. | ||
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* Damage: 10x11+20+20x12+60 | * Damage: 10x11+20+20x12+60 | ||
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=Move Metadata= | |||
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=Videos= | ==Videos, Links & References== | ||
'''Athena Asamiya (Combos, mix ups & safe jump)''' | '''Athena Asamiya (Combos, mix ups & safe jump)''' | ||
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= | ==Contributors== | ||
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[http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4816 Great Dark Hero] [http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Athena_Asamiya_(XIII)#Strategies] | [http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4816 Great Dark Hero] [http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Athena_Asamiya_(XIII)#Strategies] | ||
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[http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3887 keykakko] [http://keykakko.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/%E5%83%95%E3%81%AF%E3%80%81%E5%B1%A5%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%81%AA%E3%81%84%E3%81%A8%E6%80%9D%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%82%8B%E6%B4%BE%EF%BC%81/] | [http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3887 keykakko] [http://keykakko.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/%E5%83%95%E3%81%AF%E3%80%81%E5%B1%A5%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%81%AA%E3%81%84%E3%81%A8%E6%80%9D%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%82%8B%E6%B4%BE%EF%BC%81/] | ||
=Discussion Threads= | ==Discussion Threads== | ||
Discuss at [http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?board=80.0 Dream Cancel] | Discuss at [http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?board=80.0 Dream Cancel] | ||
Latest revision as of 10:58, 6 April 2025
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Movelist
Throws
Command Moves
Special Moves
Desperation Moves
Shining Crystal Bit: x2 +
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(*)
Shining Crystal Bit (Air): x2 +
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(AIR)
NeoMax
(*) = EX version possible
(AIR) = Only in the air
(AIR OK) = Can be done in the air
0 Stock, No Drive Gauge |
Low |
cr.B , st.A , dp+C = 187 dmg |
1 Stock, No Drive Gauge |
Anywhere |
st.C , f+B , qcb+BD, run st.D = 303 dmg |
0 Stock, 1+ Drive Gauge | Corner | st.C, f+B, qcb+D, (DC) qcb+K, qcb+A, dp+C = 379 dmg hcf+C, qcb+A, qcb+C, dp+C (DC), qcf+B, f+B, qcb+D, dp+C = 407 dmg |
Gameplay Overview
Gameplay Notes
Athena's play-style combines the elements of powerful zoning, speed, and pokes. Her psycho ball is one of the best projectiles in the game because of it's speed variations and her quick recovery, using it with her Psycho Teleport she can switch sides with the opponent or go right in their face to quickly throw them off. Her anti-airs involve using Psycho Sword and her shining crystal bit DM which also double as decent reversals. Against other projectiles Athena can simply use psycho reflector to reflect them back towards her opponent but also continue to zone them with psycho ball again. Athena has a myriad of tools once she's airborne, Phoenix Arrow works well when you are above opponents, switching between the weak and strong version will further confuse them, you can also Air Phoenix Bomb to hit opponents that are at a lower altitude and also Shining Crystal Bit in the air. With enough meter, in the corner her mix-ups and damage potential increases because of her instant command throw (Super Psychic Throw), and her damaging juggles when confirmed of a crouching or standing heavy punch or juggles placed after the Super Psychic Throw.
Her okizeme/wake-up options are quite strong thanks to her normal throw and her Super Psychic Throw which provides excellent space for many different setups. Without meter, her damage from her combos are a bit on the weak side but she can build meter rather quickly from her special moves. Athena does have very decent ground pokes, but her hit confirms into combos are rather short which also brings difficulty in confirming into HD consistently. |
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Normals
Standing
s.A: 2 - 25 damage, cancel-able & chain-able, hits mid. A quick slap attack, that has a nice sized hitbox which can stop incoming hops, and very close and deep jump-ins. It's very fast to the point that you can almost mash it repeatably and use it as a poke to check incoming hop attacks. This jab hits opponents while they are crouching, which is another plus. 0 frame on block.
s.B: - 30 damage, cancel-able & chain-able, hits mid. A simple high side-kick aimed at the opponent's head. It's a really good anti-air poke because it comes out fast and has great reach. Be careful using it in close range because it whiffs on crouching opponents that are in blockstun and that aren't in hit stun. When pressed repeatedly, it causes Athena to move slightly backward. -2 frames on block.
s.C: - 80 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. A forward palm thrust that has decent range so it can be used to punished some whiffed moves. It has good pushback on block, and is cancel-able on block too. Prepare to hit confirm this punch into a combo if it properly connects. -4 frames on block.
s.D: - 80 damage, hits mid. This spinning heavy kick moves Athena forward a bit, and reaches over low attacks briefly. It's a very good poke to use when bobbing and weaving in and out of close range because it covers a nice distance and offers a good amount of pushback on block. It does have slow start-up so be careful using this against some characters who have normals or special moves that might hit Athena before it comes out. It's a good poke that helps Athena's ground game if used carefully. -6 frames on block.
cl. C - 70 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. A double palm thrust with almost the same uses as her far C. You will be using this frequently as it is a starter for many of her ground combos.
cl. D - 70 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. This high splits kick will come in handy against opponents trying to jump over you outside the corner, jumping towards you while you are in the corner, and to stop and catch opponents trying to escape corner pressure by trying to jump out. It's not chain-able into her f+B though, but it is cancel-able into her special moves. Using this kick is a safer option than the Psycho Sword (dp+P) in the above-mentioned situations because of its really narrow vertical range and its fast start up. -6 frames on block.
Crouching
cr. A - 25 damage, cancel-able & chain-able, hits mid. It has the same range as her st. A except done while crouching. Really fast start-up, good for pressure and is +3 frames on block.
cr. B - 30 damage, chain-able, hits low. A quick crouching kick, a really good poke that can start combos from lows. It has decent range, good start-up and neutral on block. This crouching kick has a rather low profile which can actually evade a few high projectiles (ex. Andy's qcb+P and Ash's b~f+C) when pressed repeatedly to keep her low.
cr. C - 70 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. Crouch punch attack, comes out fast but be sure to use it when they're at least an arm's lengths away. The range is much farther than stand C, and its lowers her profile a bit, so it's a good answer against jabs and other normals that reach shoulder height level that whiffs on crouching opponents. -5 frames on block.
cr. D - 80 damage, hits low. This sweep has decent range, speed and it's whiff recovery isn't horrible. It also shrinks her hurtbox down low horizontally which can actually evade a few fireballs, high horizontal normals, and you can also use it to anti-air against certain jump normals from your opponent that may whiff on crouching opponents. It does not have any cancel-able properties at all, so be sure to make proper use of it since you can't do anything about it when it's active. -3 frames on block.
Jumping
hop A j. A - 45 (40) damage, cancel-able, hits overhead. Jump light punch, just a quick hit in the air, good for air-to-air situations it is also cancel-able. If performed too early, it might whiff on crouching opponents.
hop B j. B - 45 (40) damage, hits overhead. Jump knee, which is good for jump-ins and can easily cross-up standing and crouching opponents.
hop C j. C - 72 (70) damage, cancel-able, hits overhead. An air slap attack, which good for air-to-air attacks, but jumping in may be a bit risk since it might whiff completely on crouching opponents if released too early.
hop D j. D - 70 (68) damage, hits overhead. Good range, good priority, easily the preferred tool for jump-ins along with her slightly diagonal hitbox.
Blowback Attack
CD - 75 damage, whiff and hit cancel-able, hits mid. A hard shoulder tackle, good reach, and moves her forward a bit. Whiff canceling it can give some of her special moves some extra range.
hop CDj. CD - 90 (80) damage, cancel-able hits mid. A jumping drop kick, which comes out at a nice angle but comes out slowly which makes it a bit risky to use during jump-ins. It's best to cancel this j.CD into her light kick or EX version of her Phoenix Arrow (qcb+B/qcb+BD) which can either continue the pressure if blocked or build a small amount of meter if the j.CD hits.
GCCD: 10 damage, hits mid. Guard Cancel Blowback Attack.
Throws
Psychic Attack = b/f + C/D close 100 damage, can be broken, hard knockdown. Athena grabs the opponent, disappears then reappears above them kicking them to the ground. The space between Athena and the opponent is ideal for cross-up setups and meaty attacks on their wake-up, especially since Athena recovers quickly after the throw knocks them down.
Command Moves
Phoenix Bomb = f+B 50 damage, cancel-able, hits mid. Athena jumps into the the air then does a hip attack making her float for briefly; it has poor recovery if you whiff so try your best to combo into it when you use it offensively. It should be noted that this move is extremely important in Athena's runaway game because when you use it along with her back dash, it becomes much faster and much farther; the earlier you execute it, the faster the dash will be.
Phoenix Bomb Air = f+B in air 60 damage, cancel-able, hits overhead. It's executed the same way as the ground version except in the air now, a good air to air move if timed correctly (you have to be a little bit higher in the air than your opponent). You can also combo this move from her jump A/C or j.CD if it's blocked. It also retains it's overhead ability when canceled from her jump normals which can be used as a mixup option if the normal his blocked first, then if the opponent is expecting a low attack.
Special Attacks
Psycho Ball = qcb+P - Athena forms a purple sphere then propels it at her opponent. The weak version travels slowly across the screen while the strong version goes much faster and does more damage. This move is the key component of her zoning game so use it sparingly, spamming it works only if you have a back-up plan because your opponent will catch on sooner or later. Using it in moderation will keep you on your feet and will prevent you from being extremely predictable so keep that in mind. If your opponent catches on they may try to hyper hop or evasive roll past them to attack you so be sure to switch it up between weak/strong and different moves altogether. It's also super cancel-able as soon as it's executed (as soon as it's released).
(EX) = qcb+AC - Slow start-up but does three hits instead of one now, it also takes two projectiles to cancel it out. It travels very slowly and it can actually juggle airborne opponents for a brief time. Using this move is a viable zoning option because of the amount of time it's active on the screen which can make some players panic and try to find a way around it.
- Super Cancel-able
- Hit Detection: Mid
- Damage: 65/80/43x3
Psycho Sword = dp+P - Athena does a rising uppercut attack launching the opponent into the air. The weak version only goes slightly off the ground and does three hits, it is preferably used for zoning because it doesn't go too far off the ground making it easier to time and more difficult to punish. The strong version goes all the way into the air and does five hits, unlike the weak version there's a small bit of invincibility at start-up making it great as a reversal move. Both versions can be punished if whiffed (more so the latter than the former) so be careful when using outside of combos. It can be drive/super canceled on the first hit.
(EX) = dp+AC - This version covers the same horizontal distance as the light punch version. The invincibility compared to the strong punch version is increased by a small amount. There is a brief pause between the fourth and fifth hit making it easier to cancel.
- Drive/Super Cancel-able
- Hit Detection: Mid
- Damage: 50+20+20/65+25x4/80+35x2+48+35
Psycho Reflector = qcb+K - Athena forms a purple shield to protect herself from attacks. The weak version lasts a short time while the strong version lasts a bit longer. This move can counter physical attacks and projectiles; physical attacks are at best countered when they attempt a jump-in or a very laggy normal/command move because it requires a bit of timing. The difference with projectiles is that they're repelled as soon as they reach the shield (causing them to bounce back in other direction upon contact). If you use it too early you will most likely get hit because there's a small bit of vulnerability at start-up so watch yourself, despite the fact that this move can counter physical moves it's main forte is against projectiles so try to use it as such.
(EX) = qcb+BD - A psycho ball is flung towards the opponent then the projectile is thrown back at the opponent afterwards, when the psycho ball hits it juggles the opponent so that they get with the following projectile as well.
- Hit Detection: Mid
- Damage: 60/100
Phoenix Arrow = qcb+K in air - Athena turns into a ball covered in psycho energy then continues to roll in a diagonal forward motion until she touches the ground. B version Phoenix Arrow is -3 on recovery. That means she can be thrown out of the move. It's really hard to tell when she actually hits the ground, but she can be thrown out of the move. Players should be prepared to tech throws or avoid using the move against grapplers, but also note your normals will probably beat out someone throwing out a 4 frame move or slower (Like a d.B or st.C move). Note, the strong version is unsafe as soon as she sticks her leg out.
(EX) = qcb+BD in air - Same speed and execution as the strong version except it does more hits and has better recovery making it safe.
- Drive/Super Cancel-able
- Hit Detection: Mid
- Damage: 20xN/20xN+20+60/20xN+20+90
Psycho Teleport = qcf+K - Athena does a pose then teleports to the mid/far side of the screen. The weak version makes her travel 1/3 way across the screen while the strong version makes her go 3/4's across the screen. While it's mostly good for moving around it is also good for tricking your opponent if their reaction time isn't up to speed or if they're just sleepy. The weak version can only teleport through the opponent only at direct point blank range. The only repercussion to this move it that she can be punished while she is teleporting so you have to time it correctly; try switching between the weak and strong version to further confuse them.
(EX) = qcf+BD - Same speed as the weak version except it has complete invincibility at start-up making it an extremely good getaway tool during wake-up. You can also interrupt the dash with any special move (hcf+P is the most useful interruption, especially when escaping the corner) without using any drive meter.
- Hit Detection: None
- Damage: 0
Super Psychic Throw = hcf+P - Athena uses her psycho powers to command throw the opponent into the air for a possible follow-up attack, if not they fall and hit the ground. There's also a bit of invincibility at start-up and it can combo from light normals when you're right next to them; it also causes "hard knockdown" meaning they can't safe roll out of it as soon as they hit the ground. The initial throw doesn't do any damage but the knockdown does, preferably used for mid-screen okizeme mixups or to finish the opponent off if they have 100 or less damage left. Athena has a couple of cool and damaging juggle combos and air reset setups both mid-screen and corner if you prefer not to let them hit the ground.
(EX) = hcf+AC - The initial throw does damage this time, while Athena recovers much faster with more time to juggle the opponent. The range of the throw is slightly increased compared to the normal version.
- Hard knockdown
- Hit Detection: Close
- Damage: 125/80+60
Desperation Moves
Shining Crystal Bit = hcbx2+P also in air, ABCD to cancel - Athena floats while the jewel she's wearing starts to glow then she forms a purple energy shield that covers her entire body for a brief period. There's a good chunk of invincibility at start-up making good for punishing anything from jump-ins to poorly timed moves. Despite the wide hitbox, she can still be punished as soon as the move is done but that's where the cancel aspect comes from; if you whiff this move whether when you're trying to punish someone's attack/jump-in/etc be sure to press ABCD simultaneously to immediately cancel it so that the opponent won't get the chance to punish you.
(EX) = hcbx2+AC - Faster start-up, there is a vacuum effect that pulls the opponent into it and it does 27 hits instead of just one. This EX version cannot be performed in the air.
- Max Cancel-able
- Hit Detection: Mid
- Damage: 210/10x26+60
Neomax
Psycho Medley 13 = hcb~f+AC - Athena does pose then dashes across the screen, if she hits the opponent she summons her past iterations that proceed to ping pong the opponent in all directions of the screen in a pentagram-like fashion thirteen times, after the thirteenth hit the real Athena appears with then summons six guardians holding weapons (a wand, hammer, chain & ball, bow & arrow, mace, and sword & shield) then she points then they turn into psycho balls hitting the opponent at the same time for another thirteen hits (26 hits altogether). The guardians armor color change depending on how many hits you do (gold/green/purple) it seems kinda random though, the start-up for this move is almost instant which means it's very fast making it really good for punishing anything from jump-ins to evasive rolls, or moves with poor recovery.
- Hit Detection: Mid
- Damage: 10x11+20+20x12+60
Move Metadata
Move | Damage | Stun | Startup | On Guard | Remarks |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
cl.A | 25 | 3 | 4 | 0 | |
cr.A | 25 | 3 | 4 | +3 | |
st.A | 25 | 3 | 4 | 0 | |
j.A | 45 | 3 | 6 | - | |
h.A | 40 | 3 | 6 | - | |
cl.B | 30 | 3 | 5 | -2 | |
cr.B | 30 | 3 | 4 | 0 | |
st.B | 30 | 3 | 5 | -2 | |
j.B | 45 | 3 | 6 | - | |
h.B | 40 | 3 | 6 | - | |
cl.C | 70 | 7 | 5 | -1 | |
cr.C | 70 | 7 | 6 | -5 | |
st.C | 80 | 7 | 6 | -4 | |
j.C | 72 | 7 | 8 | - | |
h.C | 70 | 7 | 8 | - | |
cl.D | 80 | 7 | 5 | -6 | |
cr.D | 80 | 7 | 8 | -3 | |
st.D | 80 | 7 | 10 | -6 | |
JD | 70 | 7 | 7 | - | |
h.D | 68 | 7 | 7 | - | |
CD | 75 | 10 | 12 | +1 | hit with tip, up to +7F |
j.CD | 90 | 8 | 10 | - | |
h.CD | 80 | 8 | 9 | - | |
Phoenix Bomb = f+B | 50 | 4 | 20 | -20 | |
Air Phoenix Bomb = air f+B | 60 | 4 | 10 | - | Normal 2F, Cancel 6F |
Throw = b/f+C/D | 100 | 0 | 1 | - | Hard knock down |
GCCD | 4 | 0 | 13 | -15 | Startup Vs. wk 13,St 17,Jump 17 |
A Psycho Ball = qcb+A | 65 | 4 | 16 | -1 | +6、Full animation 45F |
C Psycho Ball = qcb+C | 80 | 4 | 13 | -7 | Full animation 48F |
A Psycho Sword1 = dp+A | 50 | 5 | 4 | - | |
A Psycho Sword2,3 | 20 | 3 | - | -35 | |
C Psycho Sword1 = dp+C | 65 | 5 | 8 | - | |
C Psycho Sword2-5 | 20 | 3 | - | -54 | |
Psycho Reflector = qcb+B/D | 60 | 8 | 11 | +1 | no chip dmg, reflection 4F、 reflection recovery 12F |
B Phoenix Arrow = qcb+B | 20 | 1 | 5 | -2~-4 | ※-frames vary on how it hits |
→DPhoenix Arrow = qcb+D | 20 | 1 | - | - | lowest pt in air B arrow 31F(includes backstep) |
→DPhoenix Arrow2 | 60 | 8 | - | -25 | |
Psychic Throw (fall) = hcf+P | 125 | 0 | 7 | - | whiff 42F |
Psychic Throw = hcf+P | 0 | 0 | - | - | |
Psychic Teleport = hcf+B/D | 0 | 0 | - | - | wk animation 33F、st animation 45F |
EX Psycho Ball1 = qcb+AC | 48 | 0 | 32 | - | |
EX Psycho Ball2,3 | 48 | 0 | - | +23 | |
EX Psycho Sword1 = dp+AC | 80 | 0 | 6 | - | |
EX Psycho Sword2-3 | 35 | 0 | - | - | |
EX Psycho Sword4 | 48 | 0 | - | - | |
EX Psycho Sword5 | 35 | 0 | 0 | -38 | |
EX Psycho Reflector = qcb+BD | 100 | 0 | 11 | +5 | no chip dmg, reflection 2F、reflection recovery 3F |
EX Phoenix Arrow = qcb+BD | 20 | 0 | 5 | - | |
→EX Phoenix Arrow | 20 | 0 | - | - | |
→EXアローN2 | 90 | 0 | - | -2 | |
EX Psychic Throw = hcf+AC | 80 | 0 | 3 | - | whiff 38F |
EX Psychic Throw | 60 | 0 | - | - | |
EX Psychic Teleport = hcf+BD | 0 | 0 | 26 | - | full animation 26F(excluding slide) |
Shining Crystal Bit = hcbx2+P | 210 | 0 | 34(5) | -30 | Freeze 29、air startup 33(4) |
EX Shining Crystal Bit1 = hcbx2+AC | 10 | 0 | 32(3)) | - | Freeze 29 |
EX Shining Crystal Bit2-26 | 10 | 0 | - | - | |
EX Shining Crystal Bit27 | 60 | 0 | - | -32 | |
PM13 1 | 10 | 0 | 36(7) | -24 | Freeze 29 |
Psycho Medley 13 2-11 = hcb,f+AC | 10 | 0 | - | - | |
Psycho Medley 13 12-24 | 20 | 0 | - | - | |
Psycho Medley 13 25 | 60 | 0 | - | - |
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